On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> If you need more than two levels, you probably ought to re-design your
> code to be less confusing, otherwise you may be able to use ChainMap to
> emulate any number of nested scopes.
The subtransactions are primarily to represent the datab
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 07/07/2013 06:43 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Wayne Werner
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which you would then use like:
>>>
>>>
>&g
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM, blatt wrote:
> Hi all,
> but a particular hello to Chris Angelino which with their critics and
> suggestions pushed me to make a full revision of my application on
> hex dump in presence of utf-8 chars.
Hiya! Glad to have been of assistance :)
&g
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:48:03 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> [...]
>> That means that I, as programmer, have to keep track of the nesting
>> level of subtransactions. Extremely ugly. A line of code can't be m
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:11:37 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> It's not something to be solved by the language, but it's often
>> something to be solved by the program's design. Two lines of code that
>&
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM, skunkwerk wrote:
> I'm using a custom pickler that replaces any un-pickleable objects (such as
> sockets or files) with a string representation of them...
>
> If it pickles okay, why should it not be able to unpickle? Any ideas?
Generally, the reason something
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 07/05/2013 04:44 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
>>
>> ? Gr33k wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a way to extract out of some environmental variable the Geo
>>> location of the user being the city the user visits out website from?
>>>
>>> Perhaps by uti
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:31 AM, wrote:
> Unfortunately (as probably I told you before) I will never pass to
> Python 3... Guido should not always listen only to gurus like him...
> I don't like Python as before...starting from OOP and ending with codecs
> like utf-8. Regarding OOP, much apprecia
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:53 AM, wrote:
>>> All characters are UTF-8, characters. "a" is a UTF-8 character. So is "ă".
> Not using python 3, for me (a programmer which was present at the beginning of
> computer science, badly interacting with many languages from assembler to
> Fortran and from c t
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> But Unicode has nothing to do with Guido, and it has existed for about 25
> years (if I recall correctly).
Depends how you measure. According to [1], the work kinda began back
then (25 years ago being 1988), but it wasn't till 1991/92 that the
s
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 07/08/2013 05:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
>>>
>>> But Unicode has nothing to do with Guido, and it has existed for about 25
>>> years (if I r
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, wrote:
> I have to get back into writing Python but I'm lacking one thing ... a
> general understanding of how to write applications that can be deployed
> (either in .exe format or in other formats).
That's one last thing you need to un-learn, then :)
You dis
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:52 PM, saadharana wrote:
> Hey i'm looking for a new router. I have no set budget. Only US stores. I
> have cable internet and few laptops connected to it so it needs to have a
> strong wireless internet signal. Also i do gaming as well on wireless
> internet and download
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:52 PM, alex23 wrote:
> with new_transaction(conn) as folder_tran:
> folder_tran.query("blah")
> with folder_tran.subtransaction() as file_tran:
> file_tran.query("blah")
> with file_tran.subtransaction() as type_tran:
> type_tran.query("
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:46 PM, CM wrote:
>> Target the three most popular desktop platforms all at once, no
>> Linux/Windows/Mac OS versioning.
>
> Ehhh... There are differences, in, e.g., wxPython between the three
> platforms, and you can either do different versions or, more aptly, just fix
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I recommend you go to a small local store that has friendly people and
>> real service, tell them what you're needing, and support local
>> business with yo
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM, alex23 wrote:
> On 9/07/2013 3:07 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> The subtransactions are NOT concepted as separate transactions. They
>> are effectively the database equivalent of a try/except block.
>
>
> Sorry, I assumed each neste
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:52:19 -0700, saadharana wrote:
>
>> Hey i'm looking for a new router.
>
> I recommend this one:
>
> http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_1350w-aeg-12-router-rt1350e_P6230066.aspx
>
>
> Helpfully-as-ever-ly yrs,
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Gary Herron
wrote:
> On 07/08/2013 10:06 PM, saadharana wrote:
>>
>> I've got some annoying problem with RAM. I was depth cleaning my case,
>> everything regular, it wasn't my first time. And when I put it all
>> together
>> and powered it on, it wasn't working, jus
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Frank Millman wrote:
> I have been following this sub-thread with interest, as it resonates with
> what I am doing in my project.
Just FYI, none of my own code will help you as it's all using libpqxx,
but the docs for the library itself are around if you want them
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Could python somehow brute force http://192.168.1.1/login.php giving user
> and pass trying to guess the password?
>
> Could it be able to pass values to the input boxes of router's web login
> interface?
It certainly could. It's just simpl
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:46 PM, CM wrote:
>>> There are projects that "bundle" the CPython interpreter with your
>>> project, but this makes those files really big.
>>
>> Maybe 5-20 MB. That's a lot bigger than a few hundred K, but it's not tha
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, CM wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:14:44 PM UTC-4, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> Yeah, but not for Python :P. For Python .exe files are a rarity and
>> should be kept that way.
>
> That there is a significant interest in creating exe files suggest that not
> everyo
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 07/09/2013 12:06 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>> What is the reason of a spambot? Spam a usenet forum to gain what?
>>
>
> Spam is unsolicited advertising. A bot is a robot, or other automated
> device. So Spambots on a usenet
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> A moderator who calls himself “animuson” on Stack Overflow doesn’t
> want to face the truth. He has deleted all my postings regarding Python
> regular expression matching being extremely slow compared to Perl.
> Additionally my account has be
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
>>> A moderator who calls himself “animuson” on Stack Overflow doesn’t
>>> want to face the truth. He has deleted all my postings r
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:26:19 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
>>>> A moderator who calls himself “animuson” on Sta
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
>>> A moderator who calls himself “animuson” on Stack Overflow doesn’t
>>> want to face the truth. He has deleted all my postings r
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I know what regular expressions are. I've used them in Perl, PHP,
>> JavaScript, Python, C++, Pike, and numerous text editors (which may
>> have been backed by one of the above l
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> Have you ever compared the regular expression performance between Perl
> and Python? If not, keep quiet.
I think I can see why you were suspended.
You and jmf should have a lot of fun together, I think.
ChrisA
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Mats Peterson wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:55:05 +, Mats Peterson wrote:
>>
>>> A moderator who calls himself “animuson” on Stack Overflow doesn’t want
>>> to face the truth. He has deleted all my postings regarding Python
>>> reg
And now for something completely different.
I knocked together a prime number generator, just for the fun of it,
that works like a Sieve of Eratosthenes but unbounded. It keeps track
of all known primes and the "next composite" that it will produce -
for instance, after yielding 13, the prime map
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Bas wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:00:59 PM UTC+2, Chris Angelico wrote:
> [...]
>> So, a few questions. Firstly, is there a stdlib way to find the key
>> with the lowest corresponding value? In the above map, it would return
>&
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> So, a few questions. Firstly, is there...
> Of course there is.
>
>> Secondly, can the...
> Of course it can.
>
>> Thirdly, is there...
> Of course there is. I have no clue what, though.
Heh, I guess I was asking for that kind of response :
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:47 AM, bas wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:12:19 PM UTC+2, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Well, that does answer the question. Unfortunately the use of lambda
>> there has a severe performance cost [ ...]
> If you care about speed, you might want
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 00:00:59 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Thirdly, is there any sort of half-sane benchmark that I
>> can compare this code to? And finally, whose wheel did I reinvent here?
>> What name would
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> As promised. Apologies for the excessive commenting. As noted, this
> implementation is a recursive generator, which is done so that the
> primes in the sieve can go only up to the square root of the current
> prime, rather than tossing in ever
The first item in a sequence is at index zero because it is that far away from
the beginning. The second item is one away from the beginning. That is the
reason for zero-based indexing.
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I think the right solution here is the trivial:
>
> def exhaust(it):
> """Doc string here."""
> deque(maxlen=0).extend(it)
>
>
> which will be fast enough for all but the tightest inner loops. But if
> you really care about optimizi
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:06:39 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> I think the right solution here is the trivial:
>>>
&
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:28 PM, loial wrote:
> Replies to questions :
>
> 1. Does the printer accept connections again after some time?
>
> Yes, bit seems to vary how long that takes
>
> 2. Does the printer accept connections if you close and re-open the
> Python interpreter?
>
> Not after a Conn
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM, wrote:
> Just to stick with this funny character ẞ, a ucs-2 char
> in the Flexible String Representation nomenclature.
>
> It seems to me that, when one needs more than ten bytes
> to encode it,
>
sys.getsizeof('a')
> 26
sys.getsizeof('ẞ')
> 40
>
> this
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Paul Rudin wrote:
> Text selection with a mouse is a different thing. Sometimes it's
> more convenient, sometimes it's not.
As screens get larger and the amount of text on them increases, it's
likely to get more and more useful to use a mouse... but personally, I
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Big deal. I am utterly unconvinced that raw typing speed is even close to
> a bottleneck when programming. Data entry and transcribing from (say)
> dictated text, yes. Coding, not unless you are a one-fingered hunt-and-
> peek typist. The
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 01:50:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Paul Rudin
>> wrote:
>>> Text selection with a mouse is a different thing. Sometimes it's more
>>
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Metallicow wrote:
> On Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:27:04 PM UTC-5, Christian Heimes wrote:
>> Am 11.07.2013 19:19, schrieb Metallicow:
>>
>> > @ Chris �Kwpolska� Warrick
>>
>> > Thanks, that is a start anyway.
>>
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:42 AM, wrote:
> BTW, since
> when a serious coding scheme need an extermal marker?
>
All of them.
Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
ChrisA
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On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Devyn Collier Johnson
wrote:
> I recently saw an email in this mailing list about the RE module being made
> slower. I no long have that email. However, I have viewed the source for the
> RE module, but I did not see any code that would slow down the script for no
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Devyn Collier Johnson
wrote:
> Am I allowed to ask questions like "Here is my code. How can I optimize it?"
> on this mailing list?
Sure you can! And you'll get a large number of responses, not all of
which are directly to do with your question. :)
I assume the c
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
>
> I would not care too much about the performance
> of re.
>
> With the new Flexible String Representation, you
> can use a logarithmic scale to compare re results.
> To be honest, there is improvment if you are an
> ascii user.
>
> Am I the only one who
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Joshua Landau wrote:
> On 12 July 2013 10:27, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> I would not care too much about the performance
>>> of re.
>>>
>>> With the new Flexibl
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson
wrote:
> I am going to love this mailing list even more.
>
> Really, only Python code? I wanted to ask Python users about Perl! (^u^)
>
> Devyn Collier Johnson
Heh. You'd be surprised what comes up. If it's at least broadly
related to Python
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:22 AM, L O'Shea wrote:
> I'm starting to get pretty worried about my lack of overall progress and so I
> wondered if anyone out there had some tips and techniques for understanding
> other peoples code. There has to be 10/15 different scripts with at least 10
> functi
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Gerald Britton
wrote:
> Man I don't know how you are doing this! I just tried:
>
> float('') and got
>
> Value error: could not convert string to float ''
>
> For that matter, I can't figure out how to type the greek letter for
> pi in gmail! Guess I have some t
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Gerald Britton
> wrote:
>> Man I don't know how you are doing this! I just tried:
>>
>> float('') and got
>>
>> Value error: could not convert string to
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson
wrote:
> Could you explain what you mean? What and where is the new Flexible String
> Representation?
(You're top-posting again. Please put your text underneath what you're
responding to - it helps maintain flow and structure.)
Python versio
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
>>
>> There is definately i way to identify the users location based solely on
>> its ip address as this site does it: http://www.geoiptool.com/
>>
>
> Sure, and as long as you don't mind it being 1000 miles off, you too can
> claim to do it too.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2013-07-12, ?? wrote:
>> When visiting http://www.geoiptool.com/en/__ip_info/ it pinpoints my
>> _exact_ city of living, not the ISP's. It did not even ask me to
>> allow a geop ip javascript to run it present sit instantly.
>
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 02:47:38 +1000, Chris Angelico
> declaimed the following:
>
>>
>>Oh, and just for laughs, I tried a few of my recent mobile IP
>>addresses in the GeoIP lookup. All of them quoted Melbour
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Νικόλας wrote:
> Στις 13/7/2013 2:04 πμ, ο/η Dennis Lee Bieber έγραψε:
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 02:47:38 +1000, Chris Angelico
>> declaimed the following:
>>
>>>
>>> Oh, and just for laughs, I tried a few of my recen
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Νικόλας wrote:
> But it works for me, How can it be impossible and worked for me at the same
> time?
If I roll ten six-sided dice, will they total 35? Maybe. Maybe they'll
be close. But it's impossible to come up with a table for rolling
those dice on that will gu
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, wrote:
> Try to write an editor, a text widget, with with a coding
> scheme like the Flexible String Represenation. You will
> quickly notice, it is impossible (understand correctly).
> (You do not need a computer, just a sheet of paper and a pencil)
> Hint: what
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Ironically, Python has done the same thing for integers for many versions
> too. They just didn't call it "Flexible Integer Representation", but
> that's what it is. For integers smaller than 2**31, they are stored as C
> longs (plus object
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> Are you paying for a fixed IP number? I suspect you are if you were
> running a world-accessible server.
>
> Obviously a fixed IP will be tied to a fixed connection and thereby to
> a fixed location which can be provided t
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Νικόλας wrote:
> So it seems that all boil down to the way the ISP configure its blocks of ip
> addresses per city.
>
> All should do the same and then it would be an easy task to accurately
> identify a visitor by its ip address.
So every ISP in the world needs t
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:49 AM, goldtech wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With Mozrepl addon in Firefox and Python I do:
>
import telnetlib
tn = telnetlib.Telnet(r'127.0.0.1', 4242, 5)
tn.read_eager()
> '\nWelcome to MozRepl.\n\n - If you get stuck at the "'
tn.read_until("repl> ")
> ...snip.
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
> On 14 July 2013 02:24, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> and on-going costs:
>>
>> - that's one more thing for every user to learn;
>
> Doesn't apply here.
Yes, it does; what happens to someone who reads someone else's Python
code? To write code,
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> On 14 July 2013 02:24, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> and on-going costs:
>>>
>>> - that's one more thing for every user to learn;
&g
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:53:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Doh, I forgot which channel this was on again :( It feels like a
>> python-list thread.
>
>
> Can't you just hit Reply-List or even Reply
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Νικόλας wrote:
> Can we get the location serived from lat/long coordinates?
Yes, assuming you get accurate latitude and longitude, so you're back
to square 1.
ChrisA
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
> 14.07.13 06:09, Chris Angelico написав(ла):
>
>> Incidents like this are a definite push, but my D&D campaign is
>> demanding my attention right now, so I haven't made the move.
>
>
> Are you role-
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:44 PM, wrote:
> Le dimanche 14 juillet 2013 12:44:12 UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 01:20:33 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > For a very simple reason, the latin-1 block: considered and accepted
>>
>> > today as beeing a Unicode design mist
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
> I have a dict of lists. I need to create a list of 2 tuples, where each tuple
> is a key from
> the dict with one of the keys list items.
>
> my_dict = {
> 'key_a': ['val_a', 'val_b'],
> 'key_b': ['val_c'],
> 'key_c': []
> }
>
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/14/2013 10:56 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> As issue about finding stings in strings was opened last September and, as
> reported on this list, fixes were applied about last March. As I remember,
> some but not all of the optimi
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
wrote:
> I'd like to exchange some simple python objects over the internet.
> I initially planned to use Pyro, after reading
> http://pythonhosted.org/Pyro4/security.html I'm still puzzled.
>
> I don't mind encrypting data, if someone wants to
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
wrote:
> Basically, I need to transfer numbers (int). Possibly dictionaries like
> {string: int} in order to structure things a little bit.
I strongly recommend JSON, then. It's a well-known system, it's
compact, it's secure, and Python com
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> > What I think I need to care about, is malicious code injections.
>> > Because
>> > both client/server will be in python, would someone capable of
>> > executing
>> > code by changing one side python
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 08:30 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Basically, I need to transfer numbers (int). Possibly dictionaries like
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Burak Arslan
wrote:
> On 07/15/13 13:57, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> But what I meant was that the [Json] protocol itself is designed with
>> security restrictions in mind. It's designed not to fetch additional
>> content from the network
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Jack Bates wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is the following code supposed to be an UnboundLocalError?
> Currently it assigns the value 'bar' to the attribute baz.foo
>
>foo = 'bar'
>class baz:
> foo = foo
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Burak Arslan
wrote:
> On 07/15/13 16:53, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I haven't looked into the details, but there was one among a list of
>> exploits that was being discussed a few months ago; it involved XML
>> schemas, I think, and quite
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Fábio Santos wrote:
>
>> On 07/15/2013 08:36 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>>
>>> Devyn,
>>>
>>> 8 Dihedral is our resident bot, not a human being. Nobody knows who
>>> controls it, and why they are running it, but we are pretty certain that
>>> it is a bot respo
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:25 AM, wrote:
> Again, thanks for all the responses. I'm curious, though, what exactly is the
> rationale for making functions so small? (I've heard that the function
> calling of Python has relatively high overhead?)
A function should be as long as it needs to be -
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Simfake Fake wrote:
> Just bumping this, but has anybody have any personal experience with
> bluetooth in python 3? Perhaps my issue is that the windows version doesn't
> include it?
I haven't worked with Bluetooth in Python, but my reading of the
socket module do
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Marco wrote:
> Hi all, why the maximum and minimum exp values are 1024 and -1021?:
>
sys.float_info
> sys.float_info(max=1.7976931348623157e+308, max_exp=1024, max_10_exp=308,
> min=2.2250738585072014e-308, min_exp=-1021, min_10_exp=-307, dig=15,
> mant_dig=53
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Daniel Kersgaard
wrote:
> def drawWalls(surface):
>
> #left and right walls
> for y in range(HEIGHT):
> surface.blit(wallblock, (0, y * BLOCK_SIZE))
> surface.blit(wallblock, (WIDTH * BLOCK_SIZE, y * BLOCK_SIZE))
>
> for x in range(W
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:43 AM, John Ladasky
wrote:
> I think that they're disappointed when I show them how much they have to
> understand just to write a program that plays Tic Tac Toe.
The disillusionment of every novice programmer, I think. It starts out
as "I want to learn programming and
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:43:35 +0300, ??? declaimed
> the following:
>
>>
>>Lest say i embed inside my index.html the Javascript Geo Code.
>>
>>Is there a way to pass Javascript's outcome to my Python cgi script somehow?
>>
>>Can Java
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Joel Goldstick
wrote:
> There is a book : http://inventwithpython.com/ Invent Your Own Computer
> Games with Python
> which claims to teach people to program games in python. I haven't read it,
> but it seems to be for beginning programmers. Take a look.. Maybe
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> Markov chains are an advanced technique you could introduce, but
> you'd need a huge list of names broken into syllables from
> somewhere.
You could use names broken into letters... or skip the notion of names
and just generate words. Lists
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2013-07-17, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
>>> Markov chains are an advanced technique you could introduce, but
>>> you'd need a huge list of names broken i
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM, wrote:
> Hi everyone. I am starting to learn python and I decided to start with what I
> though was a simple script but I guess now. All I want to do is return what
> current network location I am using on my mac. Every time I run it, it gives
> me back a 0. I
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:59 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:50:44 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> Copy and paste your actual code, don't re-type it :)
>
> This is as far as I have gotten. THis is all my code and it has been copied
> and pasted. T
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system
> will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done.
A good thing to start with. Yes, it's been done before, many times...
but if you think about it, it's th
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> @vikash agrawal
>
> About GUI I discussed it at
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I
> am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll
> need downloadable clients if I wa
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> @Chris Angelico
>
> Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be
> useful.
>
> I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with
> things. I am not looking for a de
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> @Andrew Berg
> @Chris Angelico
>
> Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I
> can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different
> commands for invoking python 2 and Py
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> @ChrisA
>
> Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python
> 3 and start updating today.
>
> About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I
> have never read a newsgroup leave alone
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> @ChrisA
>
> I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted
> before my subscription?
Not easily, far as I know. But you now have this reply, and you can
always just post something with the right subject line and
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it
> to "[email protected]"? Or do I need to use "[email protected]" as you
> wrote in your post?
You replied correctly. The ellipsis was presumably an anti-s
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