On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:08 AM, bartc wrote:
> I don't run these things often enough to remember exactly how to specify an
> EOF with the keyboard. It might be:
>
> - One of Ctrl C, D, Z or Break
This is your problem, not the program's.
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> But in fairness, if the author of the `sort` command had a commitment to
> friendliness in their programs, they could have `sort` only print a message
> when it is reading from stdin and writing to stdout, much as `ls` defaults to
> outputti
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> Plus the downtime and labour needed to install the memory, if the computer
>> will even take it.
>
>
> Obviously we need an architecture that supports hot-swappable
> robot-installable RAM.
>
Cloud computing is the
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> What are the right ways for a Python script to detect these sorts of
> situations?
>
> (1) Standard input is coming from a pipe;
>
> (2) Stdin is being read from a file;
>
> (3) Stdin is coming from a human at a terminal;
>
> I get these. How
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:05 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> On 10/05/2017 05:42 PM, Fetchinson . via Python-list wrote:
>>
>> On 10/5/17, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Fetchinson . via Python-list
>
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 6 October 2017 at 10:14, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Generally, you shouldn't condition the program too much on such
>> environmental details, although it is done. For example, the "ls"
>> command outputs the directory listing in a (colorful) mu
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:32 PM, bartc wrote:
> (And properly, by being given the same of an actual file rather than using
> crude redirection.)
Why do you call redirection "crude"? Do you not understand the value
of generic solutions that work with all programs, rather than having
every program i
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 10:41 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 06/10/2017 12:04, Rhodri James wrote:
>>
>> On 05/10/17 19:45, bartc wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I tried typing 'sort' in Linux, where it apparently hangs (same on
>>> Windows actually). The reason: because it might have killed someone to have
>>> added a
d way of doing things.
Actually it does, because you learn the system once and use it for everything.
> On 06/10/2017 12:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Why do you call redirection "crude"? Do you not understand the value
>> of generic solutions that work with all programs, ra
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2017-10-06, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>
>> Seriously? sys.stdin can be None? That's terrifying.
>
> Why?
>
> Unix daemons usually run with no stdin, stderr, or stdout.
>
> And yes, people do write Unix daemons in Python.
Hmm, but usually I wo
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:13 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 06/10/2017 15:55, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:38 PM, bartc wrote:
>
>
>> Have you ever worked on a slow remote session where a GUI is
>> completely impracticable (or maybe even unavaila
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2017-10-06, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Grant Edwards
>> wrote:
>>> On 2017-10-06, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seriously? sys.stdin can be None? That&#x
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Personally, I think stdin is a bit lame as a stimulus source for an
> interactive program. That's not even what stdin is primarily meant for;
> stdin is meant to be the input data for a job. Similarly, stdout is
> meant to be the result of th
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 5:47 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> Personally, I think stdin is a bit lame as a stimulus source for an
>>> interactive program. That's not even what stdin i
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 5:51 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 06/10/2017 18:42, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:13 AM, bartc wrote:
>
>
>>> So what's the excuse for an unresponsive text display in 2017?
>>
>>
>> Got it. You
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 6:18 AM, bartc wrote:
>> I don't know if anybody has seen a market/need for an interactive sort
>> program, but there's nothing preventing you from writing one.
>
>
> For sort, there is no real need. You use a text editor to create your data.
> Then use existing file-based s
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:32 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 06/10/2017 20:21, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 5:51 AM, bartc wrote:
>
>
>>> If you're stuck, whip out a tablet computer or smartphone (they should
>>> still
>>> function
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 01:55 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Since GCC is the GNU Compiler *Collection*
>
> Today I Learned that gcc doesn't mean "Gnu C Compiler".
>
> I knew gcc compiles C, C++
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 05:33 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On 2017-10-06, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
>>> The reason a daemon usually opens dummy file descriptors for the 0, 1
>>> and 2 slots is to avoid accidents. Some library might assume the
>>
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 06:21 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what printing to a window or image would mean, or how
>> it's useful, but sure.
>
> Print to window: Print Preview.
>
>
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:06 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 07/10/2017 15:45, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> Admit it, you're just trolling.
>
> FFS, NOW what's wrong?
>
> IF you DO redefine those names, then you DO have to use other means to
> terminate. I happen to call those means 'crashing out', because it's l
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:58 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> No built-in function is an instance of FunctionType
isinstance(compile, FunctionType)
> False
isinstance(print, FunctionType)
> False
type(compile)
>
type(int.bit_length)
>
>
>
> FunctionType == function defined by def stat
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 8 October 2017 at 11:36, bartc wrote:
>> Even with things like building applications (eg. trying to build CPython
>> from sources), they are designed from the ground up to be inextricably
>> linked to Linux scripts, utilities, makefiles, ins
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:46 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 07/10/2017 15:40, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 11:54 pm, bartc wrote:
>>
>>> So my programs that use Escape on Windows needed
>>> to use Escape Escape on Linux to get around that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or you could just follow the expected
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> I just stumbled about this note in
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/array.html:
>
> | 2. The 'q' and 'Q' type codes are available only if the platform C
> | compiler used to build Python supports C long long, or, on Windows,
> | __int64.
seful.
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On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 2:01 AM, bartc wrote:
> However as graphics became more mainstream then yes I did adopt some
> commonly expected styles (menubars for example). As for Alt-F4, if that
> generates a WM_CLOSE message for example, then I would be obliged to deal
> with it.
Yes, it usually does
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Gregory Ewing writes:
>>bartc wrote:
>>>Interactive Python requires quit() or exit(), complete with parentheses.
>>Er, what? Ctrl-D works fine for me to exit Python when not
>>in the midst of entering a block.
>
> Under Microsoft Windows, one
Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Green writes:
> >How do you load a large table into dataexplore?
>
> I have not tested the following lines, I have no experience
> with "dataexplore", this is just from what I heard:
>
> from pandastable.app import DataExp
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:50 AM, bartc wrote:
> Yeah, well, some people like to be sheep, others like to be individuals**.
Yeah, well, some people like to be standards-compliant, others like to
be irrelevant morons.
> I start in computing at a time when an application was the only thing
> running
Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 08/10/17 18:02, Chris Green wrote:
> > I am looking at dataexplore and Pandas, they look as if they may
> > provide useful tools but at the moment I can't quite understand how
> > you get data into them.
> >
> > How do y
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
>> Have you ever worked on a slow remote session where a GUI is
>> completely impracticable (or maybe even unavailable), and redrawing
>> the screen is too expensive to do all the time?
>
> So where does the redrawing happen? The machine youre sitti
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
>>>> Have you ever worked on a slow remote session where a GUI is
>>>> completely impracticable
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
wrote:
> hi just a quick question, why is
>
> my_pens = 4
> my_pencils = 5
>
> is preffered to
>
> my_pens = 4
> my_pencils = 5
>
> *referring to = symbol alignment
Because when you add a new variable:
my_mousepads = 6
you then have t
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
> The first thing a developer should provide - the keys and mouse input
> should be
> *customizable* by the user. It is so by most serious application I have
> ever used.
And they most certainly are. Often, in something in the host platform.
For in
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:15 PM, alister via Python-list
wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 08:00:34 +0200, Lele Gaifax wrote:
>
>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>
>>>> Or you could use a GUI editor that runs locally and has the capability
>>>> to edit file
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
>> ... The server may not be able to
>> (it's a server, why would anyone install a GUI on it?)
>
> If I ever work on it (locally) why would I want a GUI on it?
(Presuming you mean "wouldn't" here)
> o_O I'm not sure if I'm getting you.
> You mea
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:43 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 09/10/2017 05:49, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> Generally, my preferred editor is nano, since it lives within those
>> requirements but still has a decent UI. It's not always available
>> though, and it's useful to
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, John Black wrote:
> In article ,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> John Black wrote:
>>
>> > I want sep="" to be the default without having to specify it every time I
>> > call print. Is that possible?
>>
>> No, but you can replace the print function with your own:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
> Hi
>
> How do I create a valid file name and directory with pathlib?
>
> When I create it using PurePosixPath I end up with an OSError due to an
> obvously invlaid path being created.
You're on Windows. The rules for POSIX paths don't apply
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 2017-10-10 08:29, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Sayth Renshaw
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> How do I create a valid file name and directory with pathl
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Tim Golden wrote:
>> My understanding of the document you linked to
>> is that the colon still has special meaning, and thus you can't use it
>> in arbitrary file names.
>
>
> In fact its presence in that filename creates a (usually hidden) data stream
> piggybacke
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rhodri James :
>
>> C++ is designed, true, but well designed? It has a fundamental flaw;
>> it wants to be both a high-level language and compatible with C, under
>> the mistaken impression that C is a high level language. Since C is
>> act
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:14 AM, bartc wrote:
> Python, maybe. C syntax isn't as painful as C++ but I still have a lot of
> trouble with it. (Eg. the variable declaration 'char(*(*x[3])())[5]'. The
> name of the variable can be found lurking in that lot somewhere, but what's
> the type?) Not so co
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> The places where C++ is not a superset of C are mostly things you
>> wouldn't want to be doing anyway. You can generally take C code and
>> compile it with a C++ compiler, and it'll h
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:22 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2017-10-11, bartc wrote:
>> On 11/10/2017 15:36, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:14 AM, bartc wrote:
>>>> Python, maybe. C syntax isn't as painful as C++ but I still have a lo
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> That is not immediately all that significant but points to subtle
>>> incompatibilities between the data models of C and C++.
&g
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:29 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
> On 11/10/17 15:36, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:14 AM, bartc wrote:
>>>
>>> Python, maybe. C syntax isn't as painful as C++ but I still have a lot of
>>> trouble with
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Bill wrote:
> Mikhail V wrote:
>
> [...] I'm not here to "cast stones", I like Python. I just think
> that you shouldn't cast stones at C/C++.
Not while PHP exists. There aren't enough stones in the world...
>>> PHP seems (seemed?) popul
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Bill writes:
>
>> Mikhail V wrote:
>> [...] I'm not here to "cast stones", I like Python. I just think
>> that you shouldn't cast stones at C/C++.
> Not while PHP exists. There aren't enough stones in the world...
>
PHP
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>> Check out Django and Flask, the two most popular ways. I quite like
>> Flask.
>
> I see. Both appear to be frameworks (I'd heard of Django). Do you know
> if they widely available
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, boB Stepp wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Mikhail V wrote:
>
>>
>> PS Off-topic:
>> I have a related observation regarding popularity of software.
>> There is such a program "VLC", which is a video player. Some would
>> think it is sort of best free pla
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>> it binds your URLs to
>> the concrete file system. That may not seem like too much of a
>> problem, but it's a pretty big limitation; you can't have URLs like
>> "https:
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>>> it binds your URLs to
>>>> the concrete file system. That may not seem like
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Grant Edwards :
>
>> I like [const qualifiers] in C because it allows the linker to place
>> them in ROM with the code. It also _sometimes_ provides useful
>> diagnostics when you pass a pointer to something which shouldn't be
>> modified to
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:08 PM, T Obulesu wrote:
> Hello all, I want to send some frames defined by me{Example,
> [0x45,0x43,0x32]} to the raspberry pi from any macine(Desktop/Laptop/other
> raspberry pi). But I want to send those frames over wifi or use wlan0 using
> python Any suggestions?
>
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 2017-10-12 07:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> Provided some early part of the URL is handled by PHP, the rest of the
>>> URL path is provided to
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> Additionally, you can launder any constant string into a nonconstant
>>> string with strstr(3):
>>>
>>> co
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 2017-10-12 02:51, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> If it wants new life, it's probably going to need a Linux version,
>> because that's where a lot of developers hang out. The reality is that
>> open source dev
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>>> On 2017-10-12 07:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ben Bacarisse
>>>> wro
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>> I abbreviated that down to nothing, but since you ask, here's a really
>> REALLY simple run-down of how to use Heroku:
>
> I think I see what you mean now. You meant no configuration i
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 03:37 pm, Gregory Ewing wrote:
>
>> If the compiler can tell where p is initially pointing, it could
>> put the pointer in read-only memory.
>
> If it's read-only, how can the compiler write to it?
>
>
> (I come from the
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> On 2017-10-13, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>
>>> 1 byte
>>>
>>> addressable unit of data storage large enough to hold
>>> any member of the basic character set of the execution
>>> environment«
>>>
>>>
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Vincent Vande Vyvre
wrote:
> Simplified code:
>
> ---%<--
> class Foo:
> tasks = []
> def process(self, *args):
> # process with the file
> # save result on disk with a new name
> self.out_file
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:00 AM, bartc wrote:
> Even if data is actually in write-protected memory, attempts to write to it
> will cause a crash. On my home-made system, they just did nothing. Much more
> graceful.
The novice thinks his job is to stop the program from crashing. The
expert knows
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:51 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 13/10/2017 14:16, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:00 AM, bartc wrote:
>>>
>>> Even if data is actually in write-protected memory, attempts to write to
>>> it
>>> will c
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> It seems to me that you're not talking about ROM at all, but ordinary RAM.
> Then what do you mean by "read only"? A block of memory with a flag that
> says "unprivileged processes are prohibited from writing here"?
>
> (That's also not a rh
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2017-10-13 14:51, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Steve D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> It seems to me that you're not talking about ROM at all, but ordinary RAM.
>>> Then
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>>> I abbreviated that down to nothing, but since you ask, here's a really
>>&g
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2017-10-13, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> [regarding PHP vs Python capable web-hosting services]
>
>> Thing is, that's exactly the same for both languages these days. You
>> can get cheap (even zero-dollar) hosti
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:47 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>> "Peter J. Holzer" :
>>
>>> On 2017-10-13 05:28, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Not only does "byte" not always mean "8 bits", but
"char" isn't always short for "character"...
>>>
>>>
thought to actually answer my question
> until perhaps a dozen posts later, when Chris more-or-less said:
>
> - the compiler doesn't, but the program loader does;
>
> - its not so much read-only memory as write-protected memory:
> privileged code can still write to it.
>
>
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 10:16 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> "Peter J. Holzer" writes:
>> Which probably boils down to the question: Why did providers offer PHP
>> and not Python? One reason might be that at the time no suitable web
>> framework for Python existed (Zope was released in 1999, and I re
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:20 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Thomas Jollans :
>
>> When working with time zones, the standard library needs a little help.
>> Luckily, there's a module for that. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
>
> Even better:
>
>sudo dnf install python3-pytz
How is that better?
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:20 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>> Even better:
>>>
>>>sudo dnf install python3-pytz
>>
>> How is that better? It's the same thing,
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Angelico :
>
>> * You get into the habit of posting distro-specific (not just
>> OS-specific) commands to global mailing lists.
>
> And? I don't mind you posting the instructions for any other Li
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:15 PM, bartc wrote:
> On 15/10/2017 03:10, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>
>>I made an error I made a thousand times before.
>>
>>I had programmed an endless loop.
>>
>>But never did I see before so clear why it's called
>>an endless loop. (Tested in IDLE.)
>>
>> fro
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
> Michael, that's what i use too - gmail. But i get the digest only and can't
> really reply that way. i was hoping to get the mail.python.org list
Turn off digests then. Easy!
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7;t that useful anyway.
>
The mostly very silly spam is trivial to filter with some very simple
rules, most newsreaders have easy ways to specify subjects and/or
senders to ignore. I have (I think) just three or four rules that
eliminate just about all the junk.
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that matter) I use mutt
which is also a text mode program. It makes reading mailing lists
easy because it provides threading etc. I use like I use tin, alway
on my desktop machine using ssh where necessary.
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Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Chris Green :
>
> > I read newsgroups using tin, a text-mode/command line newsreader. I
> > always run tin on my home desktop machine, even if I'm away from home
> > by using ssh. So I maintain my settings that way. By the way tin *is*
>
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 3:07 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 16/10/2017 16:58, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>
>> Xue Feng writes:
>>>
>>> I wonder why 'del' is not a function or method.
>>
>>
>>Assume,
>>
>> x = 2.
>>
>>When a function »f« is called with the argument »x«,
>>this is written as
>>
>> f( x
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 3:18 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> bartc writes:
>>What about del team[2]?
>
> All arguments of a call are evaluated before the callable
> called then is incarnated with the values obtained. Assume,
> »team[ 2 ]« is bound to »8«. Then, the call
>
> f( team[ 2 ])«
>
> is
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 3:06 PM, llanitedave
wrote:
> I'm building an application that contains some long-running operations in a
> separate thread from the user interface. I've been using the logging module
> writing logging.info() statements to a .log file to keep track of the data
> interac
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:19 AM, bartc wrote:
> On 17/10/2017 16:44, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
>> In CPython left-hand expressions are not merely quoted for runtime
>> evaluation and use. They are parsed at compile time and compiled to almost
>> normal bytecode. The difference is that a load bytecode
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:11 PM, ast wrote:
> Hello, please have a look at following code snippet
> (python 3.4.4)
>
> class Test:
>
>a = 1
>
>def __init__(self):
>self.a = 2
>self.f = lambda : print("f from object")
>self.__call__ = lambda : print("__call__ from ob
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:11 PM, ast wrote:
>> Hello, please have a look at following code snippet
>> (python 3.4.4)
>>
>> class Test:
>>
>>a = 1
>>
>>def __init__(self):
>&g
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 4:21 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
>>Interesting -- that is coming out to be 2^size - 1, which will sure speed
>>up calculation for larger sets rather than doing all the factorial stuff.
>
> A set of size n has 2^n subsets.
>
> We exclude the empty
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Skip Montanaro
wrote:
>> My immediate reaction is "you shouldn't name your main program and
>> your package the same". It's not a pattern I've seen commonly used.
>>
>> However, the approaches I've seen used (a __main__.py inside the
>> package, so you can execute
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:28 am, Israel Brewster wrote:
>> So if the date of
>> the first record was today, t1 was on-time, and t2 was 5 minutes late, then
>> I would need to increment ALL of the following (using your data structure
>> from ab
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Rustom Mody writes:
>>Is there a recommended library for manipulating grapheme clusters?
>
> The Python Library has a module "unicodedata", with functions like:
>
> |unicodedata.normalize( form, unistr )
> |
> |Returns the normal form »form«
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Patrick Vrijlandt wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I would like your recommendation on the choice of a web framework.
>
> The project is completely new, there are no histories to take into account
> (current solutions are paper-based). The website involves questionnaires
>
18n support available for when you need it
* it’s a modern, friendly web framework
If you went with Flask, you’d end up with a pile of plugins (for auth,
for databases, for other things) and reimplement half of Django,
badly.
--
Chris Warrick <https://chriswarrick.com/>
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On 22 October 2017 at 13:25, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Chris Warrick writes:
>
>> Zope is effectively dead these days.
>
> Except it's alive and kicking: https://blog.gocept.com/
>
> :-)
>
> ciao, lele.
A few people still care, sure. But how alive is a proj
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 22 October 2017 at 13:25, Lele Gaifax wrote:
>> Chris Warrick writes:
>>
>>> Zope is effectively dead these days.
>>
>> Except it's alive and kicking: https://blog.gocept.com/
>>
>&
On 22 October 2017 at 13:48, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Chris Warrick wrote:
>> On 22 October 2017 at 13:25, Lele Gaifax wrote:
>>> Chris Warrick writes:
>>>
>>>> Zope is effectively dead these days.
>>>
>>&g
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Patrick Vrijlandt wrote:
> Op 22-10-2017 om 14:05 schreef Tim Chase:
>
>> I'm not sure what "version control is required" means in this
>> context. Is this version-control of the users' answers? Or
>> version-control of the source code. If it's the source code,
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 2:21 AM, Andrew Z wrote:
> I realize the following has little todo with python per se. But i hope to
> get a guidance on how these types of tasks are done nowadays.
>
> The task:
> Ive been asked to create an integration process. That is a few webpages
> with questioneer w
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:06 PM, wrote:
> Ridiculous? Ludicrous??
>
> Harsh words! First let me clarify before you lump this in with perpetual
> motion, or cold fusion. It is a mapping solution to compress ANY i repeat ANY
> random file with numbers of only 0 - 9 such as are in the million rand
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:32 PM, wrote:
> According to this website. This is an uncompressable stream.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompressible_string
>
> 12344321
>
> It only takes seven 8 bit bytes to represent this
That page says nothing about using a byte to represent each
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