Re: Running python's own unit tests?

On 15/11/2013 23:10, Russell E. Owen wrote: In article <[email protected]>, Tim Golden wrote: http://docs.python.org/devguide/ Thank you and the other responders. I was expecting to find the information here <http://docs.python.org/2/using/unix.html> under Bui

Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS

On 2013-11-16 08:03, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > root@secure [~]# find / -name python3.4 | rm -rf [snip] > 1. DELETE ALL REMAINS OF PYTHON3.4 I'm surprised I haven't seen the suggestion to move the "/" to the end of the entire command...it would certainly DELETE ALL REMAINS OF PYTHON3.4 ;-) Note1:

Re: Installing Python 3.3.2 pip

On 17/11/2013 09:56, Nikos wrote: python3.4 is gone at this stage. Now if i only could install pip for Python 3.3.2 Here is what i have tried: root@secure [~]# which python3 /usr/bin/python3 root@secure [~]# which pip /usr/bin/pip root@secure [~]# yum install pip3 Loaded plugins: fastestmirr

Re: When to use assert

On 2013-11-17 07:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > py> x = 23 > py> assert x > 0, "x is not zero or negative" This is the worst way to use an assertion: with a misleading message ;-) -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013

ave a rule against using current syntax and indentation for Fortran, but others don't. -- Tim Prince -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Self-defence

On 17/11/2013 17:16, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: We could report abuse to his server, eternal-september.org[0]. I tried to do this, but they wanted fancy usenetty headers, and I am not equipped to get them. I have reported to that address. It's up to them whether they consider it abuse. (

Re: Self-defence

On 17/11/2013 17:09, Zero Piraeus wrote: Note: I drafted a version of this post earlier today. I had been waiting to see whether Nikos succeeded in baiting the list into yet another round of unpleasantness before sending it, because I didn't want to worsen the situation, but at this point things

Re: Obtaining "the" name of a function/method

On 2013-11-17 11:34, Ned Batchelder wrote: > Functions have a __name__ attribute, which is the name they were > defined as: > > >>> def foo(): pass > ... > >>> foo.__name__ > 'foo' > >>> bar = foo > >>> bar.__name__ > 'foo' which they have even in less-than-usefu

Re: Data structure question

On 2013-11-18 02:03, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > I have a need for a script to hold several tuples with three > values, two text strings and a lambda. I need to index the tuple > based on either of the two strings. Normally a database would be > ideal but for a self-contained script that's a bit much

Re: sendmail library ?!

r that import smtplib s = smtplib.SMTP("localhost") usually communicates directly with the local server, whether it be sendmail or postfix or whatever. -- Tim Roberts, [email protected] Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: When to use assert

On 2013-11-18 09:50, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > If the program is invoked from a terminal I would probably go with > 'import pdb; pdb.set_trace()' rather than 'assert 0'. Then you can > check much more than whether or not the code is being executed. > It's a bit more to type but I type it so often tha

Re: Oh look, another language (ceylon)

e language designers! Ahem, I already commented on this in some detail" https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-September/241055.html -- -------- Tim Daneliuk [email protected] PGP Key: http://www

Re: Oh look, another language (ceylon)

he GIL (Global Interpreter Lock) with the much simpler, DR (Dread Lock). -------- Tim Daneliuk [email protected] PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Automation

On 19/11/2013 13:50, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 19/11/2013 10:48, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >> ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >> Warrnambool, Cerinabbin, Mordialloc? No fair Googling them, see if

Re: My first real request for help

On 2013-11-19 11:19, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/bin/axis", line 3326, in >>> >>> _dynamic_tabs(inifile) >>> >>> File "/usr/bin/axis", line 3182, in _dynamic_tabs >>> >>> child = Popen(cmd) > > You are suggesting I edit /usr/lib/py

Re: My first real request for help

On 2013-11-19 12:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On 2013-11-19 11:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>> Traceback (most recent call last): > > >>> File "/usr/bin/axis", line 3326, in > > >>> > > >>> _dynamic_tabs(inifile) > > >>> > > >>> File "/usr/bin/axis", line 3182, in _dynamic_tabs > >

Re: My first real request for help

On 2013-11-19 13:43, Gene Heskett wrote: > Interesting, a print cmd immediately in front of that is quite > noisy: ['./camview-emc-f1oat.py', '-v', '1280x720', '-C', > 'camview.cfg', '-g', 'cam.ui', '-H', 'campins.hal', '-w', > '150995278'] This suggests that the value of "cmd" is indeed a list of

Re: pypix

on is a well-established and mature programming tool. -- Tim Roberts, [email protected] Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: run command line on Windows without showing DOS console window

On 20/11/2013 14:44, iMath wrote: > > > is there anyway to run command line on Windows without showing DOS console > window ? > > can you use the following command line to give a little example ? > > wget -r -np -nd http://example.com/packages/ > > the path to wget is C:\Program Files\GnuWin3

Re: Automation

On 20/11/2013 16:19, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> On 2013-11-19, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> Anyway, we Aussies know more about your geography than you know about >>> ours, I reckon. Which of these is not a real place: Parramatta, >>> Warrna

Re: Setting longer default decimal precision

On 20/11/2013 19:59, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 20/11/2013 19:34, Kay Y. Jheallee wrote: Ah, that looks like just the puppy I'm looking for. :) Okay then, I just installed the PortableApps version of Python, but when I downloaded "mpmath-0.17.win32" the installer aborted with "No Python installati

Re: Setting longer default decimal precision

On 20/11/2013 19:34, Kay Y. Jheallee wrote: Ah, that looks like just the puppy I'm looking for. :) Okay then, I just installed the PortableApps version of Python, but when I downloaded "mpmath-0.17.win32" the installer aborted with "No Python installation found in the registry". So I'm trying to

Re: Off-topic: Aussie place names [was Re: Automation]

riginal_origin Just noticed that my town was missing - added it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittagong,_New_South_Wales Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Off-topic: Pop culture references [was Re: Newbie - Trying to Help a Friend]

On 21/11/2013 00:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I fully support the right of everyone to make cryptic references to > movies, television shows, science fiction and fantasy novels, internet > memes, and assorted pop culture references. One of the (occasionally humbling) effects of internet communi

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

On 2013-11-23 10:44, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 23:42:44 -0700, Ian Kelly > declaimed the following: > > > >On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber > > wrote: > >> > >> Rice is the plural of rouse > > > >Not according to the dictionary. But it does seem

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

On 2013-11-23 15:06, Rick Johnson wrote: > I don't thank so. What purpose does that serve? > > If we allow people to speak INCORRECT English under the > guise of "political correctness" then no one will benefit. "I don't thank so"? talk about the plank in your own eye... -tkc -- https://mai

Re: general ConfigParser question

On 2013-11-25 18:32, Rita wrote: > I was wondering if the default ConfigParser can handle multi line > strings (especially in the relate section) > > [Relate] > data="parent process A child process B > Parent process B child process C Yes, though I seem to recall that subsequent lines have to be

Re: general ConfigParser question [PS]

On 2013-11-25 18:29, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2013-11-25 18:32, Rita wrote: > > I was wondering if the default ConfigParser can handle multi line > > strings (especially in the relate section) > > > > [Relate] > > data="parent process A child process B > &g

Re: Access and write .mp3 metadata/tags using Python 3

On 2013-11-26 07:41, [email protected] wrote: > Hey everyone. > > I'm trying to figure out how to get python to access the properties > section of an mp3 file. When you right click an mp3 file and go to > properties you can edit the title, album, and things like that. I > also want to be able

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

aying something like "I think I can help here, but I'm confused about - could you or someone else clarify please?" And if an unfamiliar dialect annoys you, killfile the person. No skin off my nose. Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Cracking hashes with Python

ot;stumped" is actually coming from the problem of a plough getting stuck on a stump (i.e. can't progress any further). Not much of an issue anymore since the invention of the stump-jump plough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump-jump_plough (Looked it up, my guess is considered the most likely origin of the term). Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xff in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)

On 27/11/2013 08:31, Hoàng Tuấn Việt wrote: > I cannot see your reply in python-list until I search this question > on Internet again. (cc-ing the OP because of the nature of the problem) Viet, That's because you're not subscribed to the list. The way it works is that you subscribe to the list a

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

On 2013-11-27 01:32, rusi wrote: > > And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare > > why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his > > ears)? > > And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim says 'plank in the eye' where > King

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

On 2013-11-27 20:08, Roy Smith wrote: > > How do you expect people to know they're using a local idiom? > > Look it up in Urban Dictionary and Bob's your uncle. I thought that's how one could tell if it was an *inappropriate* idiom. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised that "Bob's your uncle" does

Re: Python and PEP8 - Recommendations on breaking up long lines?

On 2013-11-28 03:58, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> input = open(self.full_path) >> output = open(self.output_csv, 'ab') >> with input as input, output as output: >> ... > > That's really clever! Why didn't I think of that? Because if the 2nd output fails, the input doesn't get

Re: Jython - Can't access enumerations?

either with LibGDX or (more likely) way you are using it. Please post a minimal example that demonstrates the problem plus the exact error message you get (I don't know LibGLX at all, but someone else might, plus trimming it down to a minimal example may reveal the problem to you). Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Jython - Can't access enumerations?

On 30 November 2013 03:15, Eamonn Rea wrote: > Ok, here's the code: > [elided] > As I said, please also show the *exact* error - copy and paste the stack trace. Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Need help with programming in python for class (beginner level)

On 2013-11-29 16:31, [email protected] wrote: > It's for a school assignment. Thanks for the honesty--you'll get far more helpful & useful replies because of that. :-) > put them into a variable I called "number" but it seems to glitch > out that variable is in any command other than "print num

Re: Need help with programming in python for class (beginner level)

On 2013-11-30 00:59, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Wrong again, or at least overengineered. > > print "The total rolled was:", number, " ^ > > You don't even need the spaces as print kindly does it for you :) but you could at least include the missing quotati

Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly

On 2013-12-01 00:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > * KELVIN SIGN versus LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A I should hope so ;-) -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly

On 2013-12-01 00:54, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 18:52:48 -0600, Tim Chase wrote: > > > On 2013-12-01 00:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> * KELVIN SIGN versus LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A > > > > I should hope so ;-) > >

Re: Extending the 'function' built-in class

On 2013-12-01 19:18, G. wrote: > Hi, I can't figure out how I can extend the 'function' built-in > class. I tried: class test(function): > def test(self): > print("test") > but I get an error. Is it possible ? While I don't have an answer, I did find this interesting. First, "function"

Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly

a troll? Probably because out of all his baseless complaints about the FSR, he *did* have one valid point about performance that has now been fixed. Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Unicode handling wins again -- mostly

His initial postings did lead to a regression being found. Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers?

On 2013-12-03 15:47, Piotr Dobrogost wrote: > > The getattr function is meant for when your attribute name is in a > > variable. Being able to use strings that aren't valid identifiers > > is a side effect. > > Why do you say it's a side effect? I think random832 is saying that the designed pu

Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers?

gnificant enough savings to create new syntax. Remember the Python philosophy that there ought to be one way to do it. -- Tim Roberts, [email protected] Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers?

On 2013-12-04 21:33, Chris Angelico wrote: > I don't think so. What the OP asked for was: > > my_object.'valid-attribute-name-but-not-valid-identifier' > > Or describing it another way: A literal string instead of a token. > This is conceivable, at least, but I don't think it gives any > advantag

Re: Input without line break, is it possible?

On 2013-12-04 07:38, [email protected] wrote: > for i in range(8): >n = input() > > When we run it, consider the numbers below is the user input, > > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > (and so forth) > > my question, can i make it in just a single line like, > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 (and so forth) Not easily

Re: Input without line break, is it possible? [correction]

On 2013-12-04 09:55, Tim Chase wrote: > You could make it a bit more robust with something like: > > answers = [] > while len(answers) < 8: > s = input() > answers.append(s.split()) this should be answers.extend(s.split()) instead of .append() That's w

Re: Embedding multiple interpreters

On 06/12/2013 09:27, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Garthy > wrote: >> PS. Apologies if any of these messages come through more than once. Most >> lists that I've posted to set reply-to meaning a normal reply can be used, >> but python-list does not seem to. The replies I

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-06 11:37, Igor Korot wrote: > def MyFunc(self, originalData): > data = {} > for i in xrange(0, len(originalData)): >dateStr, freq, source = originalData[i] >data[str(dateStr)] = {source: freq} this can be more cleanly/pythonically written as def my_

Re: Managing Google Groups headaches

On 2013-12-07 11:08, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <[email protected]>, > [email protected] wrote: > > > It is on this level the FSR fails. > > What is "FSR"? I apologize if this was explained earlier in the > thread and I can't find the reference. Flexibl

Re: Is It Bug?

information. >>> s = 'Hello, \\\\World' >>> s 'Hello, World' >>> print s Hello, \\World >>> s = s.replace('','\\') >>> s 'Hello, \\World' >>> print s Hello, \World >>> -- Tim Roberts, [email protected] Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Centring text in a rect in PyGame?

On 07/12/2013 12:41, Eamonn Rea wrote: First of all. I’d like to say I have no idea how these ‘mailing lists’ work, so I don’t know if this’ll come through right, but we’ll see I guess :-) I’m coming from the Google Group comp.lang.python, and was suggested to use this instead. Assuming attachmen

Re: Centring text in a rect in PyGame?

On 07/12/2013 12:41, Eamonn Rea wrote: Anyway, I have a problem. In my game, I want to draw a button. I’ve gotten the button to draw fine, but I want some text on the button. I’ve gotten the text to draw, but I can’t get it to centre into the button. Here’s the code I’ve used: *self.surface.blit

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-08 15:04, Peter Otten wrote: > > data = dict( > > (str(date), {source: freq}) > > for date, freq, source in original_data > > ) > > or even just > > data = {str(date): {source: freq} > for date, freq, source in original_data} I maintain enough pre-2.7 c

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-07 23:14, Igor Korot wrote: > def MyFunc(self, originalData): > self.dates = [] > data = {} > dateStrs = [] > for i in xrange(0, len(originalData)): > dateStr, freq, source = originalData[i] > data[str(dateStr)] = {source: freq} >

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-08 19:10, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 08/12/2013 18:58, Tim Chase wrote: > > On 2013-12-07 23:14, Igor Korot wrote: > > [big snip] > > Whenever I need date manipulations I always reach out to this > http://labix.org/python-dateutil But based on the OP's

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-08 12:58, Igor Korot wrote: > Also, the data comes from either SQLite or mySQL and so to eliminate > the difference between those engines dates are processed as strings > and converted to dates for the calculation purposes only. > Maybe I will need to refactor SQLite processing to get th

Re: Possible PEP Submission

On 2013-12-09 14:36, Logan Collins wrote: > Just checking whether 1) a PEP is the proper place for this and 2) > what y'all think about it. > > I would like to propose a change to the the 're' standard library to > support iterables. > > So, something like the following would work: > > import re

Re: Permission for contribution: http://bugs.python.org/issue19940

On 10/12/2013 11:35, shankha wrote: > I wish to make contribution to Python source code. I have studied the > developers guide and made myself familiar with mercurial. I wish to > start of with some doc bugs as this will give me insight into > how the whole process(review, tests, patches) works. Is

Re: Permission for contribution: http://bugs.python.org/issue19940

On 10/12/2013 11:35, shankha wrote: > I wish to make contribution to Python source code. I have studied the > developers guide and made myself familiar with mercurial. I wish to > start of with some doc bugs as this will give me insight into > how the whole process(review, tests, patches) works. Is

Unit testing asynchronous processes

I've got some code that kicks off a background request to a remote server over an SSL connection using client-side certificates. Since the request is made from a separate thread, I'm having trouble testing that everything is working without without spinning up an out-of-band mock server and actual

Re: grab dict keys/values without iterating ?!

On 2013-12-11 02:02, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Is there a way to get dict by search terms without iterating the > entire dictionary ?! > > Let us assume I have: > > {'Amanda':'Power','Amaly':'Higgens','Joseph':'White','Arlington','Black','Arnold','Schwarzenegger'}

Re: grab dict keys/values without iterating ?!

On 2013-12-11 13:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If necessary, I would consider having 26 dicts, one for each > initial letter: > > data = {} > for c in "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ": > data[c] = {} > > then store keys in the particular dict. That way, if I wanted keys > starting with Aa, I woul

Re: grab dict keys/values without iterating ?!

On 2013-12-11 09:46, Roy Smith wrote: > The problem is, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense in Python. > The cited implementation uses dicts at each level. By the time > you've done that, you might as well just throw all the data into > one big dict and use the full search string as the key. I

Re: adding values from a csv column and getting the mean. beginner help

On 2013-12-11 11:10, brian cleere wrote: > filename = sys.argv[1] > column = int(sys.argv[2]) > > for line in filename() , column (): > elements = line.strip().split(',') > values.append(int(elements[col])) 1) you need to open the file 2) you need to make use of the csv module on that fi

Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language

On 12 December 2013 03:25, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: > > On 11/12/2013 16:04, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> > >> I strongly believe that a career > >> programmer should learn as many languages and styles as possible, but > >> most of them can wa

Re: adding values from a csv column and getting the mean. beginner help

On 2013-12-12 07:03, Chris Angelico wrote: > Also common, but how do you specify a keyword, then? Say you have a > command with subcommands: > > $0 foo x y > Move the foo to (x,y) > $0 bar x y z > Go to bar X, order a Y, and Z it [eg 'compress', 'gzip', 'drink'] > > How do you show that x/y/z are

Re: min max from tuples in list

On 2013-12-12 11:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > In any case, sorting in Python is amazingly fast. You may be > pleasantly surprised that a version that sorts your data, while > nominally O(N log N), may be much faster than an O(N) solution that > doesn't require sorted data. If I were a betting man,

Re: Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world especially since sept. 11.

On 13/12/2013 16:32, Amirouche Boubekki wrote: > Why is [email protected] still not banned? [... snip long spiel from bv4 etc. ...] Before recently, the answer would have been: because they're coming in through the Usenet gateway so there's no mailing list subscript

Re: Is it more CPU-efficient to read/write config file or read/write sqlite database?

On 2013-12-14 07:29, JL wrote: > I have a number of python processes which communicate with each > other through writing/reading config text files. The python > ConfigParser is used. I am wondering if it is more CPU-efficient to > switch to using sqlite database instead of using configuration > fil

Re: min max from tuples in list

S used in English > >conformant => something that conforms >performant => something that performs Yes, I suspect it comes from people expecting too much consistency. If something that has "conformance" is "conformant", then something that has good "perfor

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-14 23:49, Igor Korot wrote: > Tim, > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Tim Chase wrote: >>>>> conn = sqlite3.connect('x.sqlite', >>... detect_types=sqlite3.PARSE_DECLTYPES|sqlite3.PARSE_COLNAMES) Your example code omitted this one crucia

Re: Eliminate "extra" variable

On 2013-12-15 06:17, Tim Chase wrote: >>>>>> conn = sqlite3.connect('x.sqlite', >>>... detect_types=sqlite3.PARSE_DECLTYPES|sqlite3.PARSE_COLNAMES) > > Your example code omitted this one crucial line. Do you specify the > detect_types parameter to co

Re: Is it more CPU-efficient to read/write config file or read/write sqlite database?

On 2013-12-16 10:12, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 14Dec2013 10:15, Tim Chase wrote: > Annoyingly, sqlite: > > + only lets one process access the db at a time, taking you back > to a similar situation as with config files Is this a Python limitation? According to the docs[1], it

Re: Question RE urllib

On 2013-12-16 04:40, Jeff James wrote: > These sites do not require a logon in order for the home > page to come up. Could this be due to some port being blocked > internally ? Only one of the sites reporting as down is "https" but > all are internal sites. Is there some other component I should

Re: [newbie] Saving binaries in a specific way

On 2013-12-16 14:19, Djoser wrote: > I am new to this forum and also to Python, but I'm trying hard to > understand it better. Welcome aboard! > I need to create a binary file, but the first 4 lines must be in > signed-Integer16 and all the others in signed-Integer32. I have a > program that doe

Re: Struggling for inspiration with lists

On 2013-12-18 03:51, Denis McMahon wrote: > I need to keep the timestamp / data association because I need to > generate output that identifies (a) the longest repeated sequence > (b) how many elements in the longest repeated sequence (c) at what > timestamps each occurrence started. > > I'm not

Re: Windows+Python: Why is the first opened window not shown active?

On 18/12/2013 06:35, asmwarrior wrote: > 1. start a Python command line prompt(this is usually to hit the Start > Menu->Python 2.7->Python(command line). > 2. > > type the following text, and hit Enter key. > > |import ctypes| > > 3. > > type the following text, and hit Enter

Re: Is it more CPU-efficient to read/write config file or read/write sqlite database?

On 2013-12-18 09:49, dick wrote: > Don't forget that most hard disks have an option to cache the write > data. This is a 'feature' that allows the manufacturers to claim > better write performance. You can't be sure when the data is written > to the disk if that option is in play. However, my unde

Re: Is it more CPU-efficient to read/write config file or read/write sqlite database?

On 2013-12-18 15:14, dick wrote: >>However, my understanding is that they have a small on-drive >>battery/capacitor that stores sufficient energy for the cached >>write(s) to complete in the event the system's power abruptly cuts >>off. >> >>Granted, this is purely hearsay, as it's been a long time

Re: Why Python is like C++

On 2013-12-21 08:43, Tim Chase wrote: > Then there's the 6502 assembly on that Apple with its 2 user-facing > registers (plus the Instruction Pointer and Stack Pointer), so I > guess you could say that it has 1-bit variable names ;-) Doh, forgot momentarily that the 6502 had X, Y,

Re: Why Python is like C++

On 2013-12-21 11:19, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > GW-BASIC was a weak language, but two significant characters is > definitely too few. I think it was eight. Never used QuickBasic, I > went Turbo Pascal instead, which had 32 significant characters. In know that my first BASIC, Applesoft BASIC ha

Re: Why Python is like C++

On 2013-12-21 10:59, Roy Smith wrote: > > In know that my first BASIC, Applesoft BASIC had the 2-character > > names, and you had to load Integer Basic (with Ints in addition > > to the standard Floats used in the BASIC provided by the ROM, a > > strange choice). > > Why is it a strange choice?

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

g carried out during the war at Bletchley Park undoubtedly shortened the conflict and saved thousands of lives. """ From my research - general (and later president) Eisenhower seemed to think that Project Ultra save millions (not thousands) of lives, shortened and maybe won th

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

a party celebrating > Turing's rehabilitation, and do it right outside the Russian Embassy. :) Yeah! -- Tim tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com http://www.akwebsoft.com, http://www.tj49.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

* Steven D'Aprano [131224 16:19]: > Tim Johnson wrote: > > > * Steven D'Aprano [131224 07:05]: > >> On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 00:32:31 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> > >> > Maybe of interest to some of you > >> > http://www.bbc.co

Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0

On 2013-12-27 12:44, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > > In article , > > Ethan Furman wrote: > > > >> Mostly I don't want newbies thinking "Hey! I can use assertions > >> for all my confidence testing!" > > > > How about this one, that I wrote yes

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

mir Putin into a homosexual icon (search "last leg sochi" without the quotes). Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT]Royal pardon for codebreaker Turing

t the rhetoric and > laws coming out of the Kremlin are just like that coming out of the > Reichstag in the thirties. You are of course correct - I was still groggy from waking up when I replied, and focused on the element that I had been most exposed to. Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Idle Problems

On 30/12/2013 18:43, [email protected] wrote: Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently loaded program,the code comes up briefly on

Re: Ifs and assignments

On 2014-01-02 17:20, John Allsup wrote: > m = r1.search(w) > if m: > handleMatch1(m) > else: > m = r2.search(w) > if m: > handleMatch2(m) > else: > print("No match") > > if not running unnecessary matches, yet capturing groups in the > event of a

Setuptools - cannot install

setuptools 2.0.2, win7 x64, python 3.3.3 (64bit), tried as user (who is admin, and as admin) This started happening several versions ago. Could not track down a setuptools support list. Any ideas? C:\Users\tim\Desktop\setuptools-2.0.2>python setup.py install Traceback (most recent call l

Re: django question

On 2014-01-04 15:30, Igor Korot wrote: > Does anybody here use django? Yes. However there's also a Django-users mailing list[1] for Django-specific questions. Folks there are friendly & helpful. > Is it possible to display a data grid table with django? The short answer is yes. > Basically I

Re: django question

On 2014-01-05 00:24, Igor Korot wrote: > > While I prefer Django for larger projects, for a lighter-weight > > project such as what you describe, I'd be tempted to go with > > something a little more light-weight unless you need additional > > interactivity. I've recently been impressed with Bottl

Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"

le: > > $ hexdump data > 000 43 6c 67 75 62 61 > > That's "Python" in rot-13 encoded ascii. How would I turn that > into cleartext Unicode in Python 3? tim@laptop$ python3 Python 3.2.3 (default, Feb 20 2013, 14:44:27) [GCC 4.7.2] on linux2 Type "help&q

Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"

On 2014-01-06 15:51, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> data = b"\x43\x6c\x67\x75\x62\x61" # is there an easier way to > >>> turn a hex dump into a bytes literal? Depends on how you source them: # space separated: >>> s1 = "43 6c 67 75 62 61" >>> ''.join(chr(int(pair, 16)) for pair in s1.split()) 'Clgu

Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"

On 2014-01-06 22:20, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > data = b"\x43\x6c\x67\x75\x62\x61" # is there an easier way to > turn a hex dump into a bytes literal? > > >>> bytes.fromhex('43 6c 67 75 62 61') > b'Clguba' Very nice new functionality in Py3k, but 2.x doesn't seem to have such a meth

Re: Blog "about python 3"

orities for Unicode handling in Python were: 1. Correctness a. all code points must be handled correctly; b. it must not be possible to obtain part of a code point (e.g. the first byte only of a multi-byte code point); 2. No change in the Big O characteristics of string operations e.g. indexing must remain O(1); 3. Reduced memory use in most cases. It is impossible for UTF-8 to meet both criteria 1b and 2 without additional auxiliary data (which uses more memory and increases complexity of the implementation). The FSR meets all 3 criteria. Tim Delaney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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