python convention perhaps.
Best regards,
Mark H Harris
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On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:03:13 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
{snip}
hi notbob,
Get a good book on python3 programming {Barnes and Noble,
Amazon} and please, start with python (3).
Great book: & fabulous tutorial:
Summerfield, Mark. Programming in Python 3: A Complete Introduction to
On Monday, March 3, 2014 7:46:38 PM UTC-6, Mark H. Harris wrote:
> On Monday, March 3, 2014 5:34:30 AM UTC-6, Mark H. Harris wrote:
>
> > https://code.google.com/p/pythondecimallibrary/
>
>https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pdeclib/0.3
Greetings, just a minor update here for v
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 2:26:12 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 08:37:42 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
> > If you had tried Python 30 years ago, you'd give it up for any serious
> > work because it would be so slow and consume so much memory.
>
> /facepalm
>
> Python i
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:47:40 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Seriously, Lisp is not only one of the oldest high-level languages
> around, being almost as old as Fortran and Cobol, but it was one of the
> biggest languages of the 1970s and even into the 80s.
Lisp was specified by Joh
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 6:24:52 PM UTC-6, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> I must have had a deprived life...
>
> The only "debug" on a home system I ever used was the one in LS-DOS.
> And even then, it was only because an OS update disk arrived with a bad
> sector and could not be copie
test please disregard
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On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 7:40:05 PM UTC-6, MRAB wrote:
>
> The 6502 came from MOS Technology. Motorola made the 6800.
Well, not exactly. The MOS 6502 is to the Motorola 6800 what the Zilog
Z80 was to the Intel 8080.
The same engineers who designed the 6800 moved out and then designed
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 6:28:58 PM UTC-6, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> The 6502 was NOT a Motorola chip (they had the 6800). The 6502 was MOS
That's funny... did you not see what I wrote back to MRAB? Here:
The MOS 6502 is to the Motorola 6800 what the Zilog Z80 was to the Intel 8080
disregard
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On Thursday, March 6, 2014 8:13:02 PM UTC-6, MRAB wrote:
>
> The Z80's architecture and instruction set is a superset of that of the
> 8080; the 6502's architecture and instruction set isn't a superset of,
> or even compatible with, that of the 6800 (although it can use the same
> I/O, etc, chips)
On Sunday, March 9, 2014 2:09:25 PM UTC-5, Gary Herron wrote:
> i have no idea how to retrieve indexed images stored in ordered dictionary,
> using its values like : blue,green,red mean along with contrast, energy,
> homogeneity and correlation. as i have calculated the euclidean distance and
>
else:
line_count = 0
while True:
linein = fh.readline()
if (linein!=''):
lineout = linein.strip('\n')
length = len(lineout)
yield((line_count, length, lineout))
line_count+=1
test
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On 3/15/14 4:56 PM, MRAB wrote:
I don't like how it always swallows the exception, so you can't tell
whether the file doesn't exist or exists but is empty, and no way to
specify the file's encoding.
Yes, the error handling needs more robustness/ and instead of printing
the errcode, my actual m
On 3/15/14 4:56 PM, MRAB wrote:
def fName(filename):
try:
with open(filename, 'r') as fh:
for linein in fh:
yield linein.strip('\n')
except FileNotFoundError as err_code:
print(err_code)
[snip]
The "with" confuses me because I am not sure s
On 3/15/14 4:56 PM, MRAB wrote:
You can also shorten it somewhat:
Thanks, I like it... I shortened the fnName() also:
#-
# fn2Name(filename) generator: file reader iterable
#-
de
On 3/15/14 8:32 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Start here
http://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#context-manager-types
Thanks Mark. I have three books open, and that doc, and wading through.
You might like to know (as an aside) that I'm done with gg. Got back up
here with a real
On 3/15/14 9:01 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Reading from files is already pretty simple. I would expect that it will
be harder to learn the specific details of custom, specialised, file
readers that *almost*, but not quite, do what you want, than to just
write a couple of lines of code to do what
On 3/15/14 8:48 PM, Travis Griggs wrote:
On Mar 15, 2014, at 14:24, Mark H Harris wrote:
test
Pass
Thanks Travis. I hated doing that.
I have been having a fit with gg, and its taken just a little time to
get a real news-reader client for posting. What a fit. Google does
really well
On 3/15/14 10:48 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
There's a cost to refactoring. Suddenly there's a new primitive on the
board - a new piece of language . . . Splitting out all sorts of things into
generators when you could use well-known primitives like enumerate
gets expensive fast {snip}
[1] https:
On 3/16/14 12:41 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Good stuff Chris, and thanks for the footnotes, I appreciate it.
If getline() is doing nothing that the primitive doesn't, and
getnumline is just enumerate, then they're not achieving anything
beyond shielding you from the primitives.
Yes.
On 3/15/14 11:26 AM, Jayanth Koushik wrote:
This is a very interesting philosophical question, one which I am
surprised no one has answered; although, I think the reason for that
might be entirely obvious.
You actually answered your own question, as you were asking it. If the
doc says "whate
On 3/16/14 5:07 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
Why not use the mailing list instead? It’s a much easier way to
access this place.
I prefer to 'pull' rather than receive the 'push'.
The newsreader idea is better because threading works better, and
because the interface is simpler. I don't
On 3/17/14 12:03 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
ast.dump(ast.parse("complex( 3 +2j )"))
"Module(body=[Expr(value=Call(func=Name(id='complex', ctx=Load()),
args=[BinOp(left=Num(n=3), op=Add(), right=Num(n=2j))], keywords=[],
starargs=None, kwargs=None))])"
The sole argument to complex() is an expr
On 3/17/14 12:03 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Thunderbird and gmane, FWIW on Windows 7.
I moved my news reader stuff like comp.lang.python over to my
Thunderbird mail client yesterday; works well and is as functional
as sea-monkey ever was. The client is nice and has none of the
short-comings of
On 3/17/14 11:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:18:56 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
Who knows, beats me.
With respect, that's just because you would make a lousy language
designer :-)
Ouch;-)
"How should one spell a complex number?" There is p
On 3/17/14 8:06 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
All my source code resides on an old Linux server, which I switch on in the
morning and switch off at night, but otherwise hardly ever look at. It uses
'samba' to allow sharing with Windows, and 'nfs' to allow sharing with other
Linux machines.
hi Frank,
On 3/20/14 9:58 AM, notbob wrote:
I've installed python 3.3 on my Slack box, which by default comes with
python 2.7. I know how to fire up the different IDLE environments,
but how do I differentiate between the scripts?
hi notbob, the two (or more) IDLE environments run very nicely
side-by-s
On 3/20/14 12:23 PM, notbob wrote:
What the heck is a .pyc file and how are they created? Actually, I
can see it's a compiled binary, but I where did it come from?
The world according to me: python is an interpreter (vs compiler) which
converts your source code into tokens and then into a
On 3/20/14 12:47 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I've seen it done, but at least in those Python 2 days the pyc format
changed between minor releases of Python, so Python itself had to be
shipped with the pyc files.
hi Marko, yeah, I have not done this; being that the concept is contrary
to my princ
On 3/20/14 2:53 PM, Alan Meyer wrote:
#!/usr/bin/env python
Only use the "python2" or "python3" versions if you really have a reason
to do so.
It gets tricky for distribution (you need docs for your distros, imho)
because #!/usr/bin/env python means different things on different
systems.
, and opportunities for confusion.
My goal for designing SimplyPy (for instance)is to present the beautiful
heart of python (as Mark Summerfield calls it) and subsume the
complexities of the fulness of python within a simple interface, BUT
without limiting it.
Python is easy enough to teach children (I&#x
On 3/20/14 6:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
def TheProc(c_int): fpgui.fpgFormWindowTitle(0, 'Boum')
return 0
TheProcF = CMPFUNC(TheProc)
Traceback (most recent call last): File "_ctypes/callbacks.c",
line 314, in 'calling callback function' TypeError: TheProc() takes
exactly 1 argument
On 3/21/14 7:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Yep, Many thanks for help
Hum, i have find the solution, it was in "CallBack function" in help-doc.
No, it was not in the "CallBack function" in help-doc ...
def TheProc(): <== you moved c_int from here ...
f
On 3/21/14 10:28 AM, Antony Joseph wrote:
How can i implement multiprocessing without inherit file descriptors
from my parent process?
I'll bite...
If what you mean by 'multiprocessing' is forking a process, to get a
child process, which will then do some parallel processing for some
reason,
On 3/21/14 12:42 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
http://docs.python.org/3/library/subprocess.html#popen-constructor>
It's got the optional close_fds parameter, which is True by default.
IOW, you don't need to do anything if you use subprocess.Popen() to
start your child process. Incidentally,
On 3/20/14 7:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
$ tar -zxvf ssdeep-2.10.tar.gz
$ cd ssdeep-2.10&& ./configure&& make&& sudo make install
I need install it on PortablePython for Windows, so it's not
clear how to make this: where should be placed ssdeep Windows
binary files, that Pyt
On 3/21/14 9:51 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 3/20/14 7:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
$ tar -zxvf ssdeep-2.10.tar.gz
$ cd ssdeep-2.10&& ./configure&& make&& sudo make install
I need install it on PortablePython for Windows, so it's not
clear how to make this:
On 3/21/14 5:44 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I'm pleased to see that you have answers. In return would you either use
the mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or
read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to
prevent us seeing double line sp
On 3/21/14 11:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It compounds. One reply makes for double spacing... two makes
quadruple, three means we have seven wasted lines between every pair
of real lines. That gets pretty annoying. And considering that most
people who reply without cleaning up the lines also kee
On 3/21/14 11:30 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
All OS's should comply with the standard... for instance, there should
not be a windows x'0a' x'0d' line ending, and a unix x'0d' line ending.
whoops... I meant unix x'0a' line ending...;-)
On 3/21/14 11:39 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Given
fl = [lambda y : x+y for x in [1,2,3]]
It means:
def rec(l):
if not l: return []
else:
x,ll = l[0],l[1:]
return [lambda y: x + y] + rec(ll)
followed by
fl = rec([1,2,3])
Naturally a reasonable *implementation* would ca
On 3/21/14 11:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
(Side point: You have your 0d and your 0a backwards; the Unix line
ending is U+000A, and the Windows default is U+000D U+000A.)
Yeah, I know... smart apple.
How are you going to make people change? What are you going to make
them change to? Who co
On 3/23/14 4:07 PM, tad na wrote:
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:33:02 PM UTC-5, tad na wrote:
To set up a web browser:
1.open a dos window
2.navigate to dir you want "served"
3.type "python -m SimpleHTTPServer &."
4. open browser and type http://localhost:/
That is very ~cool. I learn
On 3/23/14 7:59 PM, anton wrote:
for i in (10**p for p in range(3, 8)):
print(i)
Never do their home-work for them; but, in this case, what the heck.
:)
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On 3/23/14 10:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Newline style IS relevant. You're saying that this will copy a file perfectly:
out = open("out", "w")
for line in open("in"):
out.write(line)
but it wouldn't if the iteration and write stripped and recreated
newlines? Incorrect, because this versi
On 3/22/14 4:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:51:38 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
Lambda is a problem, if only because it causes confusion. What's the
problem? Glad you asked. The constructs DO NOT work the way most people
would expect them to, having limited kn
On 3/24/14 4:58 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Where do you get reduce from if it's not in the standard library?
That was "a" proposal for 3000. Its there, but its not on the
built-ins; ie., you have to import it. The confusion: why reduce, why
not filter, nor map? {rhetor
On 3/24/14 4:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
There's no doubt that lambda is less-often useful than is the def
statement. But not only is it still useful, but there is a continual
stream of people asking for Python to make it *more useful* by allowing
the body of a lambda to be a full block, not ju
On 3/24/14 4:03 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
The difference does not really lie in the lambda construct per se but in
the binding style of closures. Functional languages tend to go one way
here; imperative languages tend to go the other. {snip}
The result may be more surprising to users accustomed to
On 3/24/14 6:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Easy fix. Use the "explicit capture" notation:
adders[n] = lambda a, n=n: a+n
And there you are, out of your difficulty at once!
Yes, yes, yes, and example:
adders= list(range(4))
for n in adders:
>adders[n] = lambda a, n=n: a+n
>
On 3/24/14 6:30 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
{And I recall standard practice was to hit \r, to return the carriage, \n
for next line, and one RUBOUT to provide a delay while the carriage
returned to the left}
Yes, yes... I remember well, there had to be a delay (of some type) to
wait for the h
On 3/24/14 5:43 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark H Harris:
Yes, its about closures, totally; the most confusing aspect of
lambda in python is not only the syntax but the idea of scope and
closure (for that syntax). Everyone is confused by this initially, not
because its complicated, but
On 3/24/14 7:11 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
What is needed is the explicit closure "grab" recommended by ChrisA.
Which does work. You do know why, right?
Sure. ... but again, that's not the point. The point is NOT can y
On 3/24/14 7:32 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
marcus
I'd vote to have lambda taken out of the language if it meant avoiding
tedious threads like this one :(
Dude, you remind me of Eeyore; "days, weeks, months, who knows..."
Its just a conversation. Don't setup a polling
On 3/22/14 3:59 PM, vasudevram wrote:
Thanks to all those who answered.
- Vasudev
I am wondering if the question was answered?
x = [[1,2],[3,4],[5,6]]
import ast
ast.dump(ast.parse('[x for x in x for x in x]'))
>
"Module(body=
>
[Expr(value=ListComp(elt=Name(id='x', ctx=Load()),
>
g
On 3/24/14 8:20 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/24/2014 7:56 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
the list which is used for each of the adder[] functions created.
Wrong. Functions look up global and nonlocal names, such as n, when the
function is called.
hi Terry, yeah, I know; this is what's *
On 3/24/14 10:00 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
About time we started using unicode in earnest dont you think??
Id like to see the following spellings corrected:
lambda to λ
great idea!
{snip}
[And now I hand it over to our very dear resident troll to explain the glories
of the FSR]
Now, that'
On 3/24/14 10:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Yeah: Its 2014 (at least out here)...
About time we started using unicode in earnest dont you think??
We do.
Id like to see the following spellings corrected:
lambda to λ
in to ∈
(preferably with
On 3/24/14 10:25 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
but, rats, can't find \ lambda
Ok, there we go -> λ
and ∈ and ∉ and ∀
no problem.
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On 3/24/14 8:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Your insistence that lambda is confusing is awfully condescending. People
are not as dumb as you insist, and they are perfectly capable of learning
lambda without a comp sci degree. Like any technical jargon, there is
vocabulary and meaning to learn, bu
On 3/24/14 10:51 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Supporting both may look tempting, but you effectively create two ways
of spelling the exact same thing; it'd be like C's trigraphs. Do you
know what ??= is,
This was a fit for me, back in the day IBM (system36 & system38). When
we started supporting
On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
character), and switch back?
... very fast.
Is not this nicer?
>>> Π = pi
>>>
>>> sin(Π/4)
0.7071067811865475
>>>
>>> cos(Π/4)
0.7071067811865476
>>>
my pdeclib constants exte
On 3/25/14 12:27 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
my pdeclib constants extension will have alternate spellings for Π and Γ
and Δ and others...
That's good! (Although typing Π quicker than pi is majorly pushing it.
Well, I'll tell ya, its exactly the same--- two key-strokes, believe it
or not.
On 3/25/14 12:28 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
π = pi
sin(π/4)
0.7071067811865475
cos(π/4)
0.7071067811865476
Looks better in emacs
Input with tex mode -- 1 char to switch
slightly verbose to type -- \pi gives π \Pi gives Π
Whoohoo... yes, way more betterer/
:)
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On 3/25/14 12:42 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
You are not counting mouse
For an emacs user
Looking at mouse counts as 3 keystrokes
ha! I would not be surprised that just "thinking" about the mouse
might be worth 3 key-strokes for an emacs user!
I use vi all the time; emacs less; depends on the
On 3/25/14 12:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Yup. Welcome to timezones. I'm UTC +11 here, although we'll drop back
to +10 shortly as DST finishes (yay!). It's currently 0547 UTC, so
you're presumably five hours behind UTC, which would put you east
coast USA, most likely. (Especially since your mail
On 3/25/14 12:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
(Especially since your mailer is putting the
dates as mm/dd/yy, which is an abomination peculiar to Americans.)
I did not know that; so is 25 Mar 2014 the preferred way?
marcus
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On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
character), and switch back?
Ok.. after installing Ukelete from Summer Institute of Linguistics SIL I
can now edit the installed keymaps and select them from input sources at
the t
On 3/25/14 9:42 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
All I need is a little python-example reading a file with e.g. three lines
with three numbers per line and putting those numbers as floats in a
3x3-numpy_array, then selecting an element from that numpy_array using
it's row and column-number.
If your instr
On 3/25/14 7:36 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
(we're on one tiny planet, you know?)
Speak for yourself.
Are others on this list, um, on a different planet? Or, am I the only
one who knows its tiny?
Yes, we're on a tiny planet revolving around a speck of a star, at the
edge of an insignificant
greetings, I would like to create a lamda as follows:
√ = lambda n: sqrt(n)
On my keyboard mapping the "problem" character is alt-v which produces
the radical symbol. When trying to set the symbol as a name within the
name-space gives a syntax error:
>>> from math import sqrt
>>>
>>> √ = la
On 3/25/14 1:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
'√'.isidentifier()
> False
'λ'.isidentifier()
> True
> S.isidentifier() -> bool
>
> Return True if S is a valid identifier according
> to the language definition.
>
> cf "unicode.org" doc
Excellent, thanks!
marcus
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On 3/25/14 2:24 PM, MRAB wrote:
> It's explained in PEP 3131.
>
> Basically, a name should to start with a letter (this has been extended
> to include Chinese characters, etc) or an underscore.
>
> λ is a classified as Lowercase_Letter.
>
> √ is classified as Math_Symbol.
Thanks much! I'll no
On 3/25/14 6:58 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
To quote a great Spaniard:
“You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you
think it means.”
In~con~theveable ! My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my
father, prepare to die...
Do you think that the ability to write
On 3/26/14 1:35 AM, alex23 wrote:
On 25/03/2014 12:39 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
my version semantically is "how it is perceived" by the user
Could you please stop claiming to have insight into the comprehension of
anyone other than yourself? Hasty generalisations don't help your
On 3/27/14 10:51 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Observe:
Good ol infix -- x+y..
prefix (with paren) -- foo(x)
prefix without -- ¬ x
In case you thought alphanumerics had parens -- sin x
Then theres postfix -- n!
Inside fix -- nCr (Or if you prefer ⁿCᵣ ??)
And outside fix -- mod -- |x|
And Ive pro
On 3/25/14 6:38 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
A couple of us managed to "steal" the school login/password (don't
think we ever used it, but...)... The teaching assistant didn't notice the
paper tape punch was active when persuaded to login to let us run a short
program (high school BASIC
On 3/27/14 11:10 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
My comments here are not in the least hasty, nor are they generalizations.
They are based on long years of experience with "normal" users, {snip}
Who is a "normal user"?
On 3/27/14 11:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
For the purposes of this list, a "normal" user is a reasonably intelligent
college educated non "computer professional" non "computer scientist" non
"expert&quo
On 3/27/14 4:42 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
And this is the bit where, I think, we disagree. I think that
programming is for programmers, in the same way that music is for
musicians and the giving of legal advice is for lawyers. Yes, there
are armchair lawyers, and plenty of people can pick up a hy
On 3/27/14 7:34 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> As for enormous number of users who will have
> difficulty typing √ in their source code, they certainly don't count!
> It's good enough that *you* have a solution to that problem, you can type
> alt-v, and anyone who can't simply doesn't matter.
You h
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, vasudevram wrote:
>> Can anyone - maybe one of the Python language core team, or someone
>> with knowledge of the internals of Python - can explain why this
>> code works, and whether the different occurrences of the name x in
>> the expression, are in differen
On 3/27/14 6:45 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, vasudevram wrote:
Can anyone - maybe one of the Python language core team,
or someone with knowledge of the internals of Python - can
explain why this code works, and whether the different
occurrences of the name x in the
On 3/27/14 6:45 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
x = [[1,2], [3,4], [5,6]]
[x for x in x for x in x]
I'll give this +1 for playfulness, and -2 for lack of clarity.
I hope no one thinks this sort of thing is good to do in real-life code.
You might try this to flatten a list of lists:
>>> from
On 3/28/14 5:12 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
No. This has to be a better way to flatten lists:
>>> from functools import reduce
>>> import operator as λ
>>> reduce(λ.add, l)
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
Why reinvent yet another way of flattening lists, particula
On 3/28/14 9:33 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark, please stop posting to the newsgroup comp.lang.python AND the
mailing list [email protected]. They mirror each other. Your posts
are not so important that we need to see everything twice.
Its not my fault, Steven. Something goofy is
On 3/28/14 9:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
We have a unicode system [1] capable of zillions of characters, and most of
[us] have some qwerty system keyboard [104 keys?] with meta key mappings for
a few more. Talk about the cart before the
On 3/28/14 9:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:05:15 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
>>> from functools import reduce
>>> L = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7],[8,9]]
>>> import operator as λ
>>> reduce(λ.add, L)
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
On 3/28/14 10:21 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Well, something's causing your messages to come out multiple times and
with different subject lines :)
I changed the subject line ( which I did twice because the first
post said it had an error and did not post; which apparently was a lie).
Th
On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Why must
everyone in the world be stuck with a U.S. Royal typewriter keyboard for
two or three hundred years?
You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the
USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been u
On 3/28/14 11:07 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
Think, virtual keyboard, on a keytoplayout... but separate from any
touchable screen. And, think mac keytops (or flatter) not the plastic
IBM typewriter like keyboards of today. Think beyond.
What if~ when I select my UK standard keytop mappings (from
On 3/28/14 11:16 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
I am able to type in Greek, well I've been doing it for about 12 years,
but it would be s much better if the keytopsection actually morphed.
What if, when you opened your new computer in Botswana, and you selected
your language in gnu/linux
On 3/28/14 11:18 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
On the inexpensive end, Think Penguin will also happily ship Tux logo
stickers to go on top of the Super key
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/tux-super-key-keyboard-sticker>.
That's ~cool. I can now remove that nasty M$ meta key. Actually, I got
so
On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the
USA. Do you honestly think that people all over the world have been using
computers for 30 or 40 years without any way to enter their native
language?
uh, pretty much. That's why
On 3/29/14 12:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
When I first met Windows keys, I just popped 'em off and left a gap.
Worked fine.
ha! see.. it popped you off too! :-)) I found it arrogant to the
max to place their stupid logo on (my) keyboard. What if every company
out there wanted "their" o
On 3/29/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Okay. History lesson time.
Tell me what is the lingua franka today?
Is it, E n g l i s h ?
For many many many years people all over the earth were using
English and ASCII to communicate with early computers... they still are.
Almost e
On 3/29/14 1:03 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
http://forum.ecomstation.ru/
Prominent discussion forum, although that strives to be at least
partially bilingual in deference to those of us who are so backward as
to speak only English.
Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak
On 3/29/14 10:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 29/03/2014 08:21, Mark H Harris wrote:
Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak three
languages, if you're bilingual you speak two languages, if you're
monolingual you're an American (well, that might
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