Re: why i can't install ez_setup

get-pip.py instead, it will also get you pip in addition to setuptools: https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py Or get Python 3.4 which can get pip for you if you so desire. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why i can't install ez_setup

On 28/06/2014 19:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:24:21 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: [snip] Or get Python 3.4 which can get pip for you if you so desire. Hey Mark, how about trimming your replies a little, please? Thanks. Okay, as soon as folks stop using google g

Re: why i can't install ez_setup

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Re: Writing Multiple files at a times

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Re: Convert Excel Range into python List

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Re: 1-0.95

How to get 0.05 as result? bc has scale=2 . Has Python some similar feature? Asked and answered roughly one trillion times. Try searching for python floating point, not that this is specific to python. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you

Re: What's the "right" way to abandon an open source package?

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Re: NEW JOB req: Python developer with Analytical risk

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Re: general module auditing

you can distort them as you please.-- You can check every users's program for import statements but do you really need to, why not check what's in the site-packages folder for your python install? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Image Upload with FalconFramework

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Re: general module auditing

On 03/07/2014 10:27, Rita wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Mark Lawrence mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 03/07/2014 02:17, Rita wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Irmen de Jong mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:irmen.nos.

Re: TypeError expected in an augmented assignment

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Re: OOP with MyTime

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Re: general module auditing

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Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

mostly personal preference (though spaces are better!). But, mixing the two is right out, and should be stomped on hard. Yet another reason to switch to Python 3. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This ema

Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

s expected. Marko Only for the very old fashioned Python 2, the modern Python 3 has booted mixed tabs and spaces into touch. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses a

Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

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Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

On 04/07/2014 16:57, Emile van Sebille wrote: On 7/4/2014 7:57 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 04/07/2014 15:28, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-07-03, Emile van Sebille wrote: Just watch out for mixed tabs and spaces in the same file -- a tab counts as eight spaces and can be used

Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

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Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

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Re: Why is it different from the example on the tutorial?

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Re: Why is it different from the example on the tutorial?

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Re: How do you use `help` when write your code

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Re: open() and EOFError

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Re: What is 're.M'?

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Re: What is 're.M'?

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Re: Question about metacharacter '*'

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Re: open() and EOFError

(at least to my eye) cleaner looking code. Somehow I think we'll get agreement on the best way to do this when the cows come home. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruse

PyPy-STM: first "interesting" release

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Re: NaN comparisons - Call For Anecdotes

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Re: Help me write better Code

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Re: Help me write better Code

On 10/07/2014 15:39, sssdevelop wrote: Mark - thank you so much. You have suggested be new best tool/module. It's going to help me many places. Was not aware of such powerful tool. thank you, I'm pleased to see that you have several answers. In return would you please use the ma

Re: Newbie: unexpected indenting error

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Re: Do I need to call close on the handle returned by urlopen?

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Re: Not enough memory.

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Re: Not enough memory.

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Re: NaN comparisons - Call For Anecdotes

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: initializing "parameters" class in Python only once?

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: NaN comparisons - Call For Anecdotes

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

is is almost as heinous a crime as using the infamous google groups b) complete nonsense, it's actually 2020 -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast!

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

On 15/07/2014 23:13, Abhiram R wrote: a) What is "top post"? b)I did correct myself in the next post. Or maybe you missed that. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Mark Lawrence mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 15/07/2014 22:35, Abhiram R wrote: Umm..Guido

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

On 16/07/2014 00:53, Rick Johnson wrote: Another thing that irritates is those people who insist on shouting LIKE THIS throughout their posts. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: This Python 3 is killing Python thread is killing me.

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Re: This Python 3 is killing Python thread is killing me.

On 16/07/2014 20:24, Jason Swails wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Mark Lawrence mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 16/07/2014 18:32, Deb Wyatt wrote: Can you all stop already with the non python US bashing? Please? Deb in WA, USA rr started i

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

On 17/07/2014 04:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:16:16 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:00:16 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: I'm not aware of any mass exodus from core Python 3 to the fork that has consistently proposed to give the world

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

ppen http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0434/. How strongly this contrasts with '*IGNORING* valuable talent and *IMPEDING* the expansion of this "private boys club"'. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our lang

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

On 17/07/2014 02:16, Rick Johnson wrote: On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:00:16 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: Further the number of people assisting on the bug tracker at the moment appears to me to be going up, not down. It therefore strikes me that Python is extremely tenable, thus indicating

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

. I'm looking forward to see the massive number of fixes that come from rr, assuming of course that he signs the CLA to make this possible. Or has he already done so? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Law

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

On 18/07/2014 01:45, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2014.07.17 19:26, Mark Lawrence wrote: I'm looking forward to see the massive number of fixes that come from rr, assuming of course that he signs the CLA to make this possible. Or has he already done so? Maybe he's too busy working on R

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

UNCHANGED FOR YEARS!!! This is patently wrong, IDLE is constantly being improved. I also don't recall ever seeing a bug report from yourself about IDLE. Your gretest strength seems to be complaining, your biggest weakness doing anything about whatever it is that you're complaini

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

call this "open source". We could even open the source for CPython itself! Could that work? What do you think? That plan is so cunning it makes Baldrick's cunning plans look good :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldrick Actually I believe we should just leave things alone, if i

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

others do it? http://bugs.python.org/issue17620 Has time to complain but doesn't have time to fix bugs? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast!

Re: What's the proper style for a library string function?

The third is really horrible in my book, YMMV. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What's the proper style for a library string function?

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Re: OT: usenet reader software

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Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...)

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Re: Writing Python File at Specific Interval

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Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!

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Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...)

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Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!

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Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!

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Re: Event loop documentation error

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Re: I want to do something with data

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Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project

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Re: Windows Studio 2008 Download

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Re: What is best way to learn Python for advanced developer?

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Re: speed up pandas calculation

f[-3:] == 'csv' and f[-6:-4] in ('93', '94', '95', '96', '97', '98', '99', '00', '91', '02', '03', '04', '05'): drugs = drugs_98_05 elif f[-3:] == 'csv' and f[-6:-4] in ('06', '08', '09', '10'): drugs = drugs_current for n in drugs: df[n] = df[['MED1','MED2','MED3','MED4','MED5']].isin([drugs[n]]).any(1) Vincent Davis 720-301-3003 I suggest you ask here https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pandas-dev which I believe is also gmane.comp.python.pydata. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: converting ISO8601 date and time string representations to datetime

7;d prefer to stick to the stdlib for this. Any suggestions ? Wolfgang Just check the length of the string? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Bug with help (was Re: Getting a list of all modules)

uggestions? Look at how `help('modules')` is implemented. Though it crashes on my system. Have you reported this at bugs.python.org or is there already an issue for the problem that you see? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for

Re: dict to boolean expression, how to?

7;b'] == 1 and cond['B'] == 0) or (cond['c'] == 1 and cond['C'] == 0) ) which can be simplified to: flag = any( cond[c] == 1 and cond[c.upper()] for c in ['a', 'b', 'c'] ) Shouldn't that be cond[c.upper()] == 0 ? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: dict to boolean expression, how to?

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Re: dict to boolean expression, how to?

senting adults" approach here :) This newsgroup scares me, it appears to be for professional computer scientists only, the theoretical part is sometimes too much for this practical physicist with an old background in FORTRAN. If you're smart enough to state that your first question w

3 Suggestions to Make Python Easier For Children

Last week I spent a couple of days teaching two children (10 and 13 -- too big an age gap!) how to do some turtle graphics with Python. Neither had programmed Python before -- one is a Minecraft ace and the other had done Scratch. Suggestion #1: Make IDLE start in the user's home directory. Sug

Re: 3 Suggestions to Make Python Easier For Children

On Saturday, 2 August 2014 08:14:08 UTC+1, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Mark Summerfield: > > > Suggestion #1: Make IDLE start in the user's home directory. > > > Suggestion #2: Make all the turtle examples begin "from turtle import > > *" so no

Re: 3 Suggestions to Make Python Easier For Children

On 02/08/2014 07:45, Mark Summerfield wrote: Last week I spent a couple of days teaching two children (10 and 13 -- too big an age gap!) how to do some turtle graphics with Python. Neither had programmed Python before -- one is a Minecraft ace and the other had done Scratch. Suggestion #1

Re: eval [was Re: dict to boolean expression, how to?]

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Re: 3 Suggestions to Make Python Easier For Children

On Saturday, 2 August 2014 08:46:04 UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 02/08/2014 07:45, Mark Summerfield wrote: > [snip] > > > Suggestion #1: Make IDLE start in the user's home directory. > > Entirely agree. Please raise an enhancement request on the bug tracker &g

Re: Tkinter grid autosize help

://sscce.org/, thanks. p.s. being British I must point out that I is spelt I and not i :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: 3 Suggestions to Make Python Easier For Children

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Re: Correct type for a simple "bag of attributes" namespace object (was: 3 Suggestions to Make Python Easier For Children)

On Saturday, 2 August 2014 20:58:59 UTC+1, Ben Finney wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > > If you need instances which carry state, then object is the wrong > > class. Fair enough. > Right. The 'types' module provides a SimpleNamespace class for the > common "bag of attributes" use case:: >

Re: Correct type for a simple "bag of attributes" namespace object

On 02/08/2014 22:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Mark Summerfield wrote: But perhaps what I should be asking for is for a new built-in that does what types.SimpleNamespace() does, so that without any import you can write, say, foo = namespace(a=1, b=2) # or bar

Re: Getting a list of all modules

above, thanks. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Correct type for a simple "bag of attributes" namespace object

On 02/08/2014 22:16, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 02/08/2014 22:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Mark Summerfield wrote: But perhaps what I should be asking for is for a new built-in that does what types.SimpleNamespace() does, so that without any import you can write, say

Re: Python Programing for the Absoulte Beginner

g the command line and the GUI. I get the feeling there is something else I need to run. http://imgur.com/RH3yczP If the book is for Python 2 and you have 3.3 it should be print("Game Over") -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do

Re: Correct type for a simple “bag of attributes” namespace object

of-named/ -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting a list of all modules

lelib/AutoComplete.py of any use? I found it when looking at this http://bugs.python.org/issue18766 -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: try/exception - error block

out everything (including the commented-out code) which isn't necessary to demonstrate the behavior. How to go about this is at "Short, Self Contained, Correct (Compilable), Example" at http://sscce.org/ -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you

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