On 28/02/2015 16:36, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I love fishing, just dangle the bait and wait to see what bites :)
Yeah, you usually catch someone. Sometimes they need to be majorly
sleep-deprived at half past three in the morning so they&#x
On 28/02/2015 17:55, BartC wrote:
On 28/02/2015 15:33, Mark Lawrence wrote:
It also makes me wonder what idiot decided to use C as the language for
the first Python implementation? Or was it written in something else and
then ported?
Python was already slow enough even written in C. With any
d we unlearn it to fit in with American English?
Two chances, zero or none.
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On 01/03/2015 16:42, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Are you suggesting that we Brits have a single "home accent"? If you are,
you need to stand up as your voice is rather muffled. That by the way is a
British expression that may or may n
On 01/03/2015 17:01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence :
Are you suggesting that we Brits have a single "home accent"? If you
are, you need to stand up as your voice is rather muffled. That by the
way is a British expression that may or may not be used around the
Commonwealth.
On 01/03/2015 17:52, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence :
On 01/03/2015 17:01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
What you (or I) speak in our native surroundings is up to you (and
me).
However, when I exhange software engineering ideas with you, I wish
both of us could stick to American English.
Well
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quot;abot" not "abut".
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omplete overkill. Give me the Steven D'Aprano solution any day of
the week.
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On 02/03/2015 14:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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Give me the Steven D'Aprano solution any day of
the week.
Sounds ominous. Is that better or worse than the final solution?
As in "this program will inadvertantly self distruct in five seconds"?
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if they are laid back about it try the same thing with he French
This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarian_Spanish is interesting.
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On 02/03/2015 15:51, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 02/03/2015 14:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
Give me the Steven D'Aprano solution any day of
the week.
Sounds ominous. Is that better or worse than the fina
On 02/03/2015 15:42, Fabien wrote:
On 02.03.2015 15:26, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Have you tried Pandas? http://pandas.pydata.org/
If your csv file has no other problems, the following should do the
trick:
import pandas as pd
df = pd.read_csv('file.csv', index_col=0, parse_dates= {&
On 01/03/2015 17:52, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence :
On 01/03/2015 17:01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
What you (or I) speak in our native surroundings is up to you (and
me).
However, when I exhange software engineering ideas with you, I wish
both of us could stick to American English.
Well
the two inp
/claim/ to be the same...
Al
The two inps are *not* the same. Steven D'Aprano mislead you with a
typo, or so he claims :) Dave Angel pointed this out. Steven replied.
You've either missed these emails or simply not read them.
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what if I say
"this file contains one long Fortran code"? There is a subtile difference
in meaning here.
You might think so but I disagree, in UK English it means one and the
same thing, there is so subtle difference at all.
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http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#markupsafe
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The quote's not even mine -- I encountered it decades ago.
Come to sunny Christchurch, Dorset and you encounter the street/district
that is simply "Bargates".
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be very difficult to understand.
Marko
This sums up perfectly why you made it onto my dream team so quickly.
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cate codecs.open()".
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board. That way we wouldn't have had to put up with the appalling slurs
from our RUE (Resident Unicode Expert) for perhaps two years.
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ading about the 4,773 open issues on the bug tracker.
As I consider this rather more important than some completely tangential
load of cobblers, would you and MR D'Aprano be kind enough to go and
have your 12, 3 minute rounds elsewhere, thanks?
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that it probably needs a major rethink. After
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etter
communication.
But more to the point its still not clear (to me) whether you are objecting to
- to Mark
- to British accent
British accent, Christmas is early this year so ho, ho, ho. Nobody in
this country ever guesses where I was born and bred, they all think I'm
from the South
org/. The
more mathematically minded may well be able to give better answers.
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e you actually profiled your code and found
that generating permutations is the bottleneck, or did you just guess?
Because even experienced programmers - even extremely experienced
Python programmers - are usually wrong when they guess about the
slowest part of a program. The only way to know is t
n's dog, I wasn't
offended, I was downright livid. How dare they distort history in an
attempt to avoid offending people.
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On 07/03/2015 04:42, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 20:03:07 +, Mark Lawrence
wrote:
https://odo.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
I don't know if there is a need for shunting data around in this way but
some of you may find this interesting.
That looks very interesting indeed.
Pike, or Python 3.3+?
ChrisA
Cue obligatory cobblers from our RUE.
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y day with 2013 no problems at all, thanks
mainly to the work on the build system by Zach Ware and Steve Dower. If
2015 is stable that will be used for 3.5 else we'll stick with 2013.
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upported
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Here's an example:
b = b'\x80'
Yes, it generates an exception. IOW, UTF-8 is not a bijective mapping
from str objects to bytes objects.
Python 2 might, Python 3 doesn't.
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On 07/03/2015 16:48, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence :
On 07/03/2015 16:25, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Here's an example:
b = b'\x80'
Yes, it generates an exception. IOW, UTF-8 is not a bijective mapping
from str objects to bytes objects.
Python 2 might, Python 3 doesn&
On 07/03/2015 17:16, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence :
It would clearly help if you were to type in the correct UK English
accent.
Your ad-hominem-to-contribution ratio is alarmingly high.
Marko
You've been a PITA ever since you first joined this list, what about it?
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On 08/03/2015 17:57, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 5:36:07 PM UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 07/03/2015 15:55, [email protected] wrote:
Out of curiosity, is there any plan to use a more recent version of Visual
Studio (i.e.: 2013) to compile the official Python3
On 08/03/2015 18:20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 08/03/2015 09:15, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Gotta love this:
TypeError: decoding with 'utf-8' codec failed (TypeError:
'_io.BufferedReader' does not support the buffer interface)
Not to worry:-)
ssue like this compared to the "Python
can't do decimal sums properly" which gets raised every few months by
newbies :)
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On 08/03/2015 22:56, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 08Mar2015 18:52, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 08/03/2015 18:20, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 08/03/2015 09:15, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Gotta love this:
TypeError: decoding with 'utf-8' codec failed (TypeError:
mess about trying to build something yourself.
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On 11/03/2015 21:59, [email protected] wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 7:51:17 PM UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 08/03/2015 17:57, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 5:36:07 PM UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 07/03/2015 15:55, [email protected] wrote:
Out of
http://pyfound.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/bbc-launches-microbit.html may be
of interest to some of you.
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Five minutes work for you (singular) on the bug tracker.
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ibraries.
Rome wasn't destroyed in a day? :)
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0 (x)
15 LOAD_CONST 2 (1)
18 BINARY_SUBTRACT
19 RETURN_VALUE
>> 20 LOAD_CONST 0 (None)
23 RETURN_VALUE
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guage reference should be the definitive guide.
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On 15/03/2015 20:59, Fetchinson . wrote:
On 3/15/15, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 15/03/2015 19:05, John Nagle wrote:
On 3/14/2015 1:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
John Nagle :
I'm approaching the end of converting a large system from Python 2
to Python 3. Here's why you don't
On 16/03/2015 00:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 15/03/2015 20:59, Fetchinson . wrote:
On 3/15/15, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 15/03/2015 19:05, John Nagle wrote:
On 3/14/2015 1:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
John Nagle :
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d not anticipate
or handle?
Any of the 47 open issues on the bug tracker to start with :(
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On 16/03/2015 14:37, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 7:57:08 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 16/03/2015 14:19, Rustom Mody wrote:
==
Anyways...
Yes 15 years are past.
I dont expect the def can be revoked now.
[As far as I am concerned its a minor wart
a few nappies.
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On 17/03/2015 02:52, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 11:50:33 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 16/03/2015 14:37, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 7:57:08 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 16/03/2015 14:19, Rustom Mody wrote
On 17/03/2015 03:05, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 03/16/2015 09:01 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Reading this makes me realise how lucky I am not having to worry about
such issues.
How so?
I don't work due to ill health. I use Python at home on Windows purely
for my own needs which pip now c
On 17/03/2015 03:18, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:37:25 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Ok Let me throw out a suggestion:
- potato is a generator
- tomato is a cursor.
Acceptable?
No. In Python potato is a generator function, tomato is a generator.
Why
On 17/03/2015 03:33, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:55:27 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/03/2015 03:18, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:37:25 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Ok Let me throw out a suggestion:
- potato is a generator
e trying to solve that of configuration management?
How many installations have to change world wide because of one serious
bug in (say) OpenSSL?
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er of software developers being literate both on Linux and
Windows.
Of course we could avoid all of these problems if we were to bring back
the mainframe or mini and the dumb terminal.
Take cover, incoming :)
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On 17/03/2015 22:36, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:50:57 + (UTC), Grant Edwards
declaimed the following:
On 2015-03-17, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Of course we could avoid all of these problems if we were to bring back
the mainframe or mini and the dumb terminal.
We did
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On 18/03/2015 14:59, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Dan Sommers wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:35:42 +, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I've just come across this
http://www.stavros.io/posts/brilliant-or-insane-code/ as a result of
this http://bugs.python.org/issue23695
An
clearly confused? On Stack, if you don't post the entire
code, you are asked to do so. I would think it would be the same procedure here.
http://sscce.org/
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I though jumping to your side. Like I said, it sounds more
fun. But really, wife and kids need to eat.
Please don't feed the RUE.
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-the-number-question
? I'm assuming that the reference to "pkaeding's algorithm" refers to
https://github.com/pkaeding but haven't confirmed that to be fact.
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s inappropriate content?
Yes.
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On 25/03/2015 21:19, Gregg Dotoli wrote:
Grep is regular expressions. If I'm using Python, I'll use the Python modules.
Silly
Gregg
Clear as mud, and please don't top post.
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On 26/03/2015 01:26, Tiglath Suriol wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 7:58:11 PM UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You might be used to dealing with other people in other newsgroups.
This is the Python main mailing list/newsgroup. There is a rather more
civilised way of doing things around
hon 2 any more.
What does bother me is the stream of complaints you make about the docs
or docstrings but there are very few if any tracker issues to get these
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Thanks, I've been having a miserable day but that got me chuckling :)
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is not defined
>>> help('FAQ')
no Python documentation found for 'FAQ'
Less than useless, now what?
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On 28/03/2015 12:58, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 11:26 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 28/03/2015 06:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Pascal is another language with a construct like that, and there's a FAQ
for it:
https://docs.python.org/2/faq/design.html#why-doesn-
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made worse by the
unicode FSR, which was released in, I think, 3.3.
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On 30/03/2015 07:48, dieter wrote:
Mark Lawrence writes:
This has been marked for deprecation since at least 2.6 but is still
in the 3.5 code base. Does anybody know if this is by accident or
design? If the former I'll happily raise an issue to get it removed
unless somebody beats me
introduced it was only ever presented as a *start* to the porting
effort.
Not much of a tool if the 47 outstanding issues on the bug tracker are
anything to go by.
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TIA.
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On 03/04/2015 17:37, silvagni wrote:
Please remove the page:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-September/691616.html
Thank You
Gabriele Silvagni
I mark all of these as offensive on google groups.
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As you've had plenty of answers I'll just say that PIL is pretty old
now. Are you aware of the fork called Pillow?
https://pillow.readthedocs.org/
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