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I'm pleased to see that you have answers. In return would you either use
the mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or
read and action this https://wiki.python.org
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(Side point: You have your 0d and your 0a backwards; the Unix line
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the above
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Why the overhead of creating a list when you could use a tuple? :)
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How so? Read Guido's argument above. Another way to answer this
question is that I have been programming with Python for almost a decade
and I've not used lambda. In fact, I have gone out of my way to NOT use
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ot; variant. It even allows you to clarify the
meaning of the tuple slot by using a nicer name.
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Where do you get reduce from if it's not in the standard library?
That was "a" proposal for 3000. Its there, but its not on the
built-ins; ie., you have to import it. The confusion: why
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What is needed is the explicit closure "grab" recommended by ChrisA.
Which does work. You do know why, right?
Sure. ... but again, that
indset, which is what I love about Python, by pure luck it fits
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>> Can anyone - maybe one of the Python language core team, or someone
>> with knowledge of the internals of Python - can explain why this >>
code works, and whether the different
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Yes. Well, as the joke goes, if you're trilingual you speak three
languages, if you're bilingual you speak two languages, if you're
monolingual you're an American (well, that might go for Australia too,
maybe). When whole conti
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Mark, please stop posting to the newsgroup comp.lang.python AND the
mailing list (...). They mirror each other. Your posts
are n
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Approximately 5% of the US population either do not speak English at all,
or speak it poorly. That includes approximately half a million ASL
speakers (American Sign Language, which is not a m
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foo.py to foo.pyw?
Yes. The only distinction between .py and .pyw is that the Python
installer associates the former with Python.exe and the latter with
Pythonw.exe. Pythonw runs the script without creating a console window
for stdin/stdout.
Not with more
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On Apr 3, 2014 11:12 AM, "Walter Hurry" mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> Normally my Python development is done on FreeBSD and
7;s more chance of me being
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You haven't seen nothing yet, wait till M.L. catches you on the flip
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Who is ML?
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Now, about Python2. It has not died. It appears to be 'useful'.
The perceived reality is that Python2 is 'useful'. Or, is it as I
perceive it, python2 is embedded in so many places that it must be
maintained for a long time be
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Now, about Python2. It has not died. It appears to be 'useful'.
{snip}
For a lot of people, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
hi Mark, ye
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As Ian points out, you can't expect a complete migration on the PSF
schedule (2->3), because of the fear|panic of a fork. So,
comp.lang.python is the best place to find out where the Cpython
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I'd recommend using this import statement in Python 2 so you get used to
print being a function.
from __future__ import print_function
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Well, there is a (serious) problem somewhere...
jmf
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I was thinking more along the lines of Greek tragedies. :)
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Unicode!
Works perfectly in Python 3.3+ thanks to the excellent work done as a
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It's called irony, and unfortunately Mark is reacting to an
all-to-common
situation that GoogleGroups foists on unsuspecting posters
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There is no Internet police. Which is a good thing, for if there were,
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That said, I don't know anyone who actually uses Python 3.
You do now :)
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OK, change bear to bird & the question to "What kind of bird is it?"
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And that's *precisely* what you're seeing: the Decimal module is giving you a
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http://morepypy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/pypy-23-terrestrial-arthropod-trap.html
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Cars are standardized -- there are basically two types, manuals and
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Sadly they can still go wrong due to modern e
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On 17/05/2014 15:06, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/05/2014 13:52, Albert van der Horst wrote:
Now translate E=mc^2 into Java.
I can't do that as I simply don't understand it. What has the
Marylebone Cricket Club got to do with E?
A wicket looks
nnot open include file: 'excpt.h': No such file or
directory
etc.
What stupid thing have I forgotten, apart from switching to *nix? :)
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On 17/05/2014 18:05, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
1>..\PC\make_versioninfo.c(1): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file:
'stdio.h': No such file or directory
What stupid thing have I forgotten, apart from switching to *nix? :)
On 17/05/2014 20:08, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Solved as you got me looking in a different direction. It certainly helps
if you have an up to date version of the SDK :)
Hah. I don't know which versions of Visual Studio Express go with
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