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The version of tcl/tk is completely irrelevant as it comes bundled in
the Python msi installer.
Does the previous version put stuff into the registry that keeps the new
version from running correctly?
Not that I'm aware of. But then
https://github.com/brettcannon/caniusepython3 may be of interest to some
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What is wrong by design will always stay wrong by design.
Why are you making the statement that PEP 461 is wrong by design?
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7;re making it TOO easy Bill ;)
No, the _easy_ solution is:
https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=state++machine&submit=search
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Yep, my point exactly. nice illustration.
So now, for you and me: let's compare.
if key is ast.Assign:
return ' '.join(dump(t) for t in node.targets)
elif key is ast.AugAssign:
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... and between me and you, here is a snip from dmath.py from the
atan(x) function:
if (n**2 < D(1)):
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On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:16:18 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
How would you propose doing that? Bear in mind that while Python
knows that tuples specifically are immutable, it doesn't generally
know whether a type is immutable.
hi Ian, conside
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On Saturday, March 1, 2014 12:24:15 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
much code. If you want to change anything, you potentially have to
edit three places: the list of constants at the top, the condition
function, and the switch.
This can't be
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No elipses, just the paragraphs not wrapped and the double line spacing.
Good old gg, I just love it.
How do I fix it? Is there a setting someplace? I tried pulling up the
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Thanks, Mark. Whoohoo! Looks like gg has some work to do. rats(). Ok, so I'm
typing away here and when
I get to the boarder I s
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only can you subscribe to hundreds of Python lists there is also a setup
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for __eq__().
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Will you please be kind enough to stop writing this drivel. You've been
told repeatedly that you don't know what you're talking about, so have
the decency to just belt up. Now try testing these words
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how do I do the above with, and only with, the identity, even if you
stupidly keep on trying to tell me that this is wrong?
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Trying to install pyttsx, it doesn't strike me as very clever that, as
seen below, you get "Successfully installed pyttsx" despite the syntax
errors and you can't actually do an import.
c:\Users\Mark\CrossCode>c:\Python34\Scripts\pip3.4.exe install pyttsx
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is
equivalent to calling the bytes constructor on the memoryview.
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>>> m.tobytes()
b'abc'
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Trying to install pyttsx, it doesn't strike me as very clever that, as
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c:\Us
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I am having a fit with pip this afternoon. I finally
got pip installed on this system from a binary
blob (what nightmare, talk about 1987). Anyway,
pip is installed, but when I go to PyPI to pull
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ust like to know why people are so obsessed with identities, I've
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Man, imagine what you could do with a Unicode version of Whitespace?
Yes, but how do we pursuade the Python core devs to give us a decent
implementation? Let's face it, according t
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If it's easy why can't you answer it via the docs rather than ask here?
What I meant to say is:
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Trying to install pyttsx, it doesn't strike me as very clever that, as
seen below, you get "Successfully instal
frankly I haven't got the faintest idea what you're going on
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If you don't read the loop from the top, and don't tell me exactly what you
want by just keep saying context, please ingore this post.
Thanks.
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It looks as if the upgrade from 3.3.4 to 3.3.5 has stolen my copies of
py.exe and pyw.exe from c:\windows. Before I raise an issue on the bug
tracker could someone please confirm this, as it wouldn't be the
On 10/03/2014 08:53, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
In other words, I suspect you are trolling.
s/suspect/know/ , he didn't make captain of my dream team for nothing,
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It looks as if the upgrade from 3.3.4 to 3.3.5 has stolen my copies of
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easier if the new exception
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I've found this link useful http://kmike.ru/python-data-structures/
I also don't want all sorts of data structures added to the Python library.
I believe that there are advantages to leaving speci
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You can also shorten it somewhat:
Thanks, I like it... I shortened the fnName() also:
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Hi,
What is the correct idiom for getting the path to a top-level module in 3.3 and
3.4 when the module might be frozen?
At the moment I'm using this:
if getattr(sys, "frozen", False):
path = os.path.dirname(sys.executable)
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path = os.path.dirname(__file__)
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On 17/03/2014 14:08, Skip Montanaro wrote:
As more and
more Windows users have moved to 64-bit versions of Windows and
Outlook, we've had more and more reports of failures.
I think all that's necessary (speaking as someone who knows not
On Monday, 17 March 2014 08:44:23 UTC, Mark Summerfield wrote:
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>
>
>
> What is the correct idiom for getting the path to a top-level module in 3.3
> and 3.4 when the module might be frozen?
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> At the moment I'm using this:
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On 3/16/14 5:07 AM, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
Why not use the mailing list instead? It’s a much easier way to
access this place.
I prefer to 'pull' rather than receive the 'push'.
The newsreader idea is better because th
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On 20/03/2014 20:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
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The starter is 2to3 which had been in the standard library for what
seems like an eternity to me.
No problem there. It helps you transition from python2 to python3.
However, python3 is here and you should be able to write genuine
On 20/03/2014 20:50, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
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On 20/03/2014 20:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I must say, though, that Python3 destroyed "print" forever for me. To
avoid nausea, I write sys.stdout.write() in all Python3 code.
Not for me, I was using from __futur
egarded as
independent languages.
And I still say this is complete nonsense.
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