Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:03:41 -0400, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
>> What's really strange is that most people think laptop keyboards are
>> horrible but I absolutely
the right
locking mechanism, and the lock will go away when the process exits
which helps on cleanup from abnormal terminations.
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lt setting for this commandline option as well as a
couple of other such as the data default directory.
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Robert Kern wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>> is there anyway I can, in a setup.py file, set and internal equivalent
>> to the '--install-scripts' commandline option?
>
> Please don't. Hard-coding that interferes with the user's decision of where
&g
> install_scripts=/path/to/scripts/directory
>
thank you thank you thank you. That was the magic bit of missing
information.
Now I get to puzzle out how to install the CGI plus images plus
stylesheets plus plus plus mess. Probably a bit outside of the scope of
distutils even if the CGI pro
Robert Kern wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
>> Now I get to puzzle out how to install the CGI plus images plus
>> stylesheets plus plus plus mess. Probably a bit outside of the scope of
>> distutils even if the CGI programs are Python. ;-)
>
> I recommend
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> So what I have seen so far says that to be able to take data from a
> series of directories scatter it to other directories may be out of
> scope. It's okay. If I have to write a wrapper, it won't be the first
> time.
do'h.
http://docs.
nership with a file is up to you. It might work to
use data_files to enumerate files you apply the common perms/owernship.
then special case what you need to.
hope this gives you some useful ideas.
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ly ignore the
configuration files and focus on what I'm trying to solve.
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ements is some form
of scoreboard mechanism where you can lock individual records in a file
(i.e. dbm). I do something like this in a demon which owns the dbm,
mediates database access, and record locking so that I can have multiple
readers and writers at the same time using gdbm. But y
quot;real file". obviously, world will be more difficult if
you don't have a uniform chunk size or sequential creation of chunks.
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MonkeeSage wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>> the problem with this solution is that it does not handle the read
>> nonexclusive/write exclusive locking model. In this model, reads don't
>> block, they only register that the request is in process. writes lock
7;t work anymore)
I assume this is the library one could use if you were running on Python
2.3 or 2.4
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/wsgiref
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fedora
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# file /etc/postfix/transport*
/etc/postfix/transport:ASCII English text
/etc/postfix/transport.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native
byte-order)
# python /usr/lib/python2.4/whichdb.py /etc/postfix/transport
UNKNOWN /etc/postfix/transport
# python /usr/l
and grub problems). So if you
come up with a solution, feel free to e-mail me directly or if you have any
other questions, also, feel free to send me mail. Might not know the answer
but
at least we can commiserate. :-)
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I upgraded to version 9.5 and all of my tools which enabled me to program by
voice in Emacs are broken. it's one of those dagnabbit a moment's of life.
What I am looking for is a Windows based Python Smart editor that uses specific
rich text edit controls as specified here:
http://knowledgebas
this morning I was looking at Python and XUL. I was impressed by the very
interesting projects that were happening around 2005 but it seems like they
have
all died. Integrating Python at the Mozilla was also very intriguing as it
held
the promise of eliminating JavaScript for extension devel
Chris Mellon wrote:
> wx does (in large part), but most likely the problem is that the "rich
> text" control used in most editors is not the win32 rich text control,
> but instead Scintilla, which is designed for source editing and is
> much easier to use. Very few editors, of any kind, use the nat
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would not completely give up on the idea of Python
> itself running in the browser, although obviously
> there have been lots of false starts.
>
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/we
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2007_04_28.shtml#e702
>> interesting. Very interesting but I suspect the
>> message is "don't hold your
>> breath but don
Steve Howell wrote:
> --- "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Steve Howell wrote:
>>> --- "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2007_04_28.shtml#e702
&
I have wasted way too much time on this problem already and I'm hoping it's
just
that I'm missing some bit of information somewhere.
I need an SMTP receiver so I can handle filter requests from a postfix mail
server. the asyncore version works fine for one request at a time. This is
great ex
(kind of). Others, like I
said, dropout. Tools to make programming by voice easier and not as damaging
to
the throat as unenhanced speech recognition with bumpy caps symbols, would
significantly improve the lives of people you probably know and possibly your
own life in the future.
Feel free
Warren Stringer wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> You make a compelling argument for underscores. I sometimes help a visually
> impaired friend with setting up his computers.
>
> I'm wondering about the aural output to you second example:
>
> link.set_parse_action(emit_link_
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FWIW, even though I think proper-case-with-seperators is greatly
> preferrable to camelCase, I certainly don't think that speaking the
> names is a really major point.
unless you or someone with working hands helps fix up voicecoder, it is a major
point for people like
I have a collection of packages and I want to put them under single unifying
name. my goal is to reduce namespace pollution and make all these packages
accessible as 'import vvv.aaa'. In more detail, if I have packages 'aaa' and
'bbb', what do I do to put those packages under unifying name such
I have an environment where I have a bunch of data files or use would like
Python application. I want to use the data_files specification of set up to
distribute those files. But I also need to change ownership and permissions.
I
know there's some way to do this because I've done it once bef
Ben Finney wrote:
> Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Neither"? Emacs is both editor *and* IDE.
I think of it more as feature full but somehow unsatisfying. For example, for
those of us PRDs ( Politely Referred to as Disabled) who are trying to program
by voice could use an enumerat
how to use signals to cause a
long-running process to reload external data. Any good pointers?
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Peter Otten wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
>> I need to to be able to conditionally log based on the method the log
>> statement is in and one other factor like a log level. in order to do
>> so, I need to be able to automatically find out the name of the metho
Peter Otten wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
> [in private mail -- please don't, Eric]
sorry. my preference is for private mail. it's my way of trying to be
kind to others by reducing list clutter.
> I don't understand. The logging package detects the f
Peter Otten wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
> Here is yet another revision of my example then:
it's making more and more sense although I don't quite follow 'property'
quite yet. But I see that get_logger is invoked prior to the
__logger.info call.
I was lo
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> I don't get all the details of what's all that stuff for, but from the
> error and traceback, I think you forgot to create the filter_test
> instance. That is, change lgr.addFilter(filter_test) to
> lgr.addFilter(filter_test())
do'h . for some reason, I thought a
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:15:56 -0400, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
>> Gabriel Genellina wrote:
>>
>>> I don't get all the details of what's all that stuff
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:29:34 -0400, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
>
>> yes. here is the code that fails. I don't understand why the unbound
>> method. what is r
too many _ on the init,
> meaning the initialization never took place, AND the references to
> "test_names" needs to be prefixed with "self."
my most common brain fades. I also miss tt/ttt, ss/sss, 1l and
probably a few others. I sometimes think IDE's should have a &quo
are all up to date, I'm considering putting them all into one collection
(rcsoc a.k.a. random cross-section of code[1]) so it's easier to load,
install, and manage.
Are there better techniques for managing collections of modules in 2.4
or later?
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[1] derives from the
Jorge Godoy wrote:
> "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I have a bunch of small modules that I use within my application. Most of
>> these modules are single file modules. Currently, I have them set up as
>> stand-alone modules but becau
Hi,
I am looking for wx widget that has the ability to show text, edit the
text (like a TextCtrl) but also does syntax highlighting (if the text
is e.g. XML or HTML).
I have been looking in the latest wxPython version but I could not
really find anything.
Any suggestions?
(I need this because my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, I'm a teen trying to do my part in improving the world, and me
> and my pal came up with some concepts to improve the transportation
> system.
>
> I have googled up and down for examples of using python to create a
> city street but I can not find any.
http://www
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey, I'm looking for a good Python environment. That is, at least an editor
> and a debugger, and it should run on Windows. Does anyone have any idea?
I've been looking for the equivalent although I want the IDE to run on Windows
and to be able to edit/debug/bzr files on
re destined for the
agent.
The agent should also be able to send events.
Some queue mechanism would also be nice.
Is there something like this in Python? (I really want to avoid Java
or MQ series)
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John Nagle wrote:
> Yes. One of the basic design flaws of UNIX was that interprocess
> communication was originally almost nonexistent, and it's still not all that
> great. It's easy to run other programs, and easy to send command line
> parameters, but all you get back is a status code, plu
John Nagle wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>> John Nagle wrote:
>>> Yes. One of the basic design flaws of UNIX was that interprocess
>>> communication was originally almost nonexistent, and it's still not
>>> all that
>>> great. It'
o manually download?
Two? Five? 100?
I'd like to know if I'm missing something. Mini modules management and
distribution should be possible without too much headache.
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Ben Finney wrote:
> "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> as one would expect when creating a body of software, eventually you
>> create a series of relatively generic components you find yourself using
>> over and over again. As a re
Ben Finney wrote:
> "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Ben Finney wrote:
> setuptools allows downloads and/or installs from any specified
> location. The Cheeseshop is just a convenient default location.
>
>>> - use easy_install
sanely into
non-Microsoft applications, I must jump through hoops to write Python on
a UNIX box (NT Emacs + Webdrive). As a result my perspective is colored
by my handicap in the same way the TABS experience colors your perception.
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ion of which modules it uses including the meta tag
"latest". It shouldn't be difficult either building a complete module
template if you use some relatively simple form that "all" single file
modules could work with.
on the other hand, I may have just reinvented parts of eggs. :-)
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tifiable difference in the life of people with upper
extremity disabilities. I hope people can help.
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I'm looking for a scgi modules that make it easy to convert a CGI using
the standard Python CGI module. I'm hoping for something that will run
my program either as scgi or cgi.
I did find something called paste which purports to be some sort of CGI
Bridge framework but from the documentation,
Hi,
we have a third-party product that has a C++ api on HP-UX.
I would like be able to use the API in Python (as I remember Python is
good at doing this).
I have no experience with this so I Googled and tried to find some
info on what I had to do.
So, I installed Python 2.4.4 and Swig 1.3.33
T
ll
> (hopefully) compile.
>
> I'd focus on doing it manually, then getting distutils to work properly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hyuga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: first time use
ad to
compare notes with you if you care to go the same route. Just let me know off
list.
I wish you the best of luck in your project.
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p?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=6&MMN_position=23:23
or google cwrsync
I use in conjunction with rsnapshot for backing up xp and vista machines
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Hi,
I need some advice on Drag&Drop.
What I want to achieve is the following:
- I have a window that is divided in two : on the left hand I
have a wx.TreeCtlr and on the other hand a wx.StaticBitmap
I want to be able to drag an item from the tree onto the static
bitmap.
I know how to d
to do some manipulations in bulk on a set of OBJs
Any help much appreciated
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Andreas Roehler wrote:
>
> with python-mode.el from
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-mode/
I think there's something wrong with the site because it tells me it's version
1.0 from year 2005.
> Meanwhile I'll reflect a draft addressing your needs.
there is a rather sizable set of thin
Steve Holden wrote:
> Tim Roberts wrote:
>> Derick van Niekerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Ok - so it's not really an awesome achievement and only handles basic
>>> templating needs (no loops and other programming constructs) but maybe
>>> someone will find it useful.
>>
>> Sure, that's what th
in trying to make programming in Python more accessible to disabled programmers
(specifically mobility impaired speech recognition users), and hitting a bit of
a wall. The wall (for today) is indentation. I need a method of getting the
"right indentation" without having to speak a bunch of unnece
Almar Klein wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> First of all, I like your initiative.
there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative. :-) 14 years with
speech recognition and counting. I'm so looking to my 15th anniversary of being
injured next year
another ini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Nov 14, 4:08 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Almar Klein wrote:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> First of all, I like your initiative.
>> there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
> you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
the goal is to make some aspects of indentation behave the same without context
dependency. this goal exists for many features of pr
Aaron Brady wrote:
> On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
>>> you hit backspace? What is it that you wo
u left,' etc.
to which I would reply, "no need to be jealous. She wants to spend some private
time with you too." But that really has nothing to do with editing by voice.
:-)
>
>> I can
>> almost guarantee it would drive you mad
>
> Perhaps it does. Honest curiosity and vicious curiosity are only
> distinguishable after time.
true. You know, if you live anywhere near Boston MA, I would like to spend a
few hours with you, have you train up a voice model and try editing by voice.
It would be interesting to watch you learn the environment. (If others are
interested in this offer, e-mail me privately)
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John Yeung wrote:
> This is such a fascinating and compelling thread that it has pulled me
> out of lurker mode.
>
> Eric, I would like to say I also admire your initiative, but even more
> so your patience. You seem to handle comments of all types
> gracefully.
Should have se
speech recognition users need from editors are these smart
navigation commands so that one can perform more complex operations without
worrying about indentation or position or things of that nature.
my voice is wearing out. More later
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Jeremiah Dodds wrote:
> Eric, I don't have a good readily available solution to what you're
> trying to do, but it seems to me that it would be worth your time to get
> comfortable with elisp, and how it's used in emacs. The emacs
> documentation is pretty good, even if
John Yeung wrote:
> On Nov 15, 8:50 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> well, therein lies the rub. I don't know lisp,
>> I don't know Emacs internals let alone python mode.
>
> Unfortunately, neither do I. Actually, I haven'
Andreas Roehler wrote:
> IMO Jeremiah Dodds is right. With all the time spent on this discussion, you
> could write the needed function in elisp probably. BTW your request seems
> reasonable. Other python programmers may use it too.
I tried learning lisp about 15 years ago. even bought a copy of
Hello,
Is there a way to easily build an object that behaves exactly like a
float, but whose value can be changed? The goal is to maintain a list
[x, y,…] of these float-like objects, and to modify their value on the
fly (with something like x.value = 3.14) so that any expression like "x
+y" uses
It looks like what is needed here are a kind of "mutable float". Is
there a simple way of creating such a type? I don't mind changing the
value through x.value = 1.23 instead of x = 1.23... :)
On Apr 14, 3:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there a way to easily build
Thank you all for your input. It is not yet obvious how to achieve
the goal/need that I had in mind in the original post. Basically, I
would need to be able to calculate the derive() function of Peter, but
without knowing what arguments are passed to the function f under
study. Here is why:
I'
Thanks Dave for your thoughtful remarks, which you sent right when I
was writing a response to the previous posts.
I was wondering about a kind "mutable float"; so you're right, it's
not fully a float, because it's mutable. I'd like to have an object
that behaves like a float in numerical calcula
ote:
> > > The goal is to maintain a list [x, y,…] of these float-like
> > > objects, and to modify their value on the fly (with something like
> > > x.value = 3.14) so that any expression like "x
> > > +y" uses the new value.
>
> > Why is that
To Peter: What I had in mind was to implement your calc() function;
you could do something similar with your loop in the previous post by
replacing "for f.shift..." by "f.shift = 1"; this would give you 2
values, which you can combine with your unused variable in order to
obtain the same value as w
> Is there a way to easily build an object that behaves exactly like a
> > float, but whose value can be changed? The goal is to maintain a list
> > [x, y,…] of these float-like objects, and to modify their value on the
> > fly (with something like x.value = 3.14) so that any ex
Steven, I'd appreciate if you could refrain from criticizing so
bluntly so many points. I'd be great if you trusted me more for
knowing what I'm talking about; I've been a programmer for 25 years,
now, and I pretty well know what my own code looks like! I appreciate
your input, but please soften
To Dave A. and Piet: I appreciate your taking the time to make
suggestions. I understand that there is a hitch in the approach that
you describe, which I would like to insist on: how do you handle
functions that use math.sin(), for instance? numpy does this kind of
magic, but I'm not sure it's wi
ke x.value = 3.14) so that any expression like "x
> > +y" uses the new value.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Numpy's array object can do something like what you want:
>
> In [27]: x=array(0.0)
>
> In [28]: print x, sin(x)
> 0.0 0.0
>
> In [29]: x.itemset(pi/2)
Arnaud, your code is very interesting!
On Apr 15, 1:00 pm, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> I still don't understand why you need mutable floats.
Here is why: the code that your proposed (or any code that does
straightforward error propagation, for that matter) does not generally
calculate uncertaintie
Thanks, Piet! Before reading your post, I did not know that defining
__float__() was enough for math.sin() to be able to calculate
something!
To summarize my current understanding for the original problem:
- Mutable floats seem to be the only way of performing (correct)
uncertainty calculations
Th^H^H
On Apr 16, 5:51 am, [email protected] (Aahz) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> wrote:
>
> >Steven, I'd appreciate if you could refrain from criticizing so
> >bluntly so many points. I'd be great if you trusted me more for
> >kn
On Apr 15, 5:33 pm, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> I still don't think mutable floats are necessary. Here is an approach
> below - I'll let the code speak because I have to do some shopping!
Hats off to you, Arnaud! I'm very impressed by the ideas found in
your code. :)
Your UExpr object is almost
g because it
does
the right things for my project. It takes strings or Unicode, stores
everything
as Unicode and then returns everything as Unicode. Quite frankly, I love to
have my entire system run using Unicode strings but again, I missing some
knowledge on how to force all of my modules to
t it should and should
not
accept as text. Now that I've gotten through my particular "crisis" I need to
sit down and generate a test case so the problem can be fixed.
thanks again.
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marcello wrote:
> Hello
> I need to do this:
> 1 opening a file for writing/appending
> 2 to lock the file as for writing (i mean: the program
> that lock can keep writing, all others programs can't )
> 3 wtite and close/unlock
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/65203
been
to
start creating a test case.
I would appreciate pointers to documentation (and yes I did Google
before asking) how to create an icon on a desktop (Macintosh and
Windows) and have that icon act on something which has been dropped on it.
many thanks for any assistance
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Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Drag'n'Drop is highly OS-dependand and clearly out of scope for
> standard-out-of-the-box python. If you are on macintosh, pyobjc and
>
> http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?DragAndDrop
>
> will certainly help.
i
kasha is not perfect, it's not full-featured, it doesn't have any
databases associated with it (thank god), but for me it's a dream to use
in contrast to the half a dozen web frameworks I tried.
if you want to play with it, let me know and I will update CVS at
https://savannah.nong
ll to medium scale web application
environment, I do have enough visions of grandeur to think it might go
bigger. ;-)
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Hi,
I am trying to do a very simple thing with SUDS but I think I am
missing the obvious (first time I use suds)
I have small program that tries to open a wsdl. When I execute the
program I am getting 'suds.transport.TransportError: HTTP Error 401:
Unauthorized' Seems obvious but I specify userna
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Brendan Miller a écrit :
>> PEP 8 doesn't mention anything about using all caps to indicate a
>> constant.
>>
>> Is all caps meaning "don't reassign this var" a strong enough
>> convention to not be considered violating good python style? I see a
>> lot of people using
Rhodri James wrote:
> Reject away, but I'm afraid you've still got some work to do to
> convince me that PEP 8 is more work for an SR system than any other
> convention.
Name name
higher than normal recognition error rate. can require multiple tries
or hand
correction
MultiWordName
Peter Otten wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
>> MultiWordName mulitwordname
>> very high error rate. many retries or hand hurting typing.
>
> Can you define macros in your speech recognition software?
>
> multiwordname
>
> might slightly lower the erro
alex23 wrote:
> "Eric S. Johansson" wrote:
>> no, I know the value if convention when editors can't tell you anything about
>> the name in question. I would like to see more support for disabled
>> programmers
>> like myself and the thousands of pr
Tim Chase wrote:
It sounds like the issue should be one of making your screen-reader
> smarter, not dumbing down Python conventions. I don't know what SR
> you're using (Jaws? Window Eyes? yasr? screeder? speakup?
Naturally speaking is speech recognition (speech in text out) it is not text
Ethan Furman wrote:
> Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>>
>> yup how long will i[t] be before you become disablesd? maybe not as
>> badly as I am
>> but you should start feeling some hand problems in your later 40's to
>> early 50's
>> and it goes down h
Rhodri James wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:07:19 +0100, Eric S. Johansson
> wrote:
>
>> Rhodri James wrote:
>>
>>> Reject away, but I'm afraid you've still got some work to do to
>>> convince me that PEP 8 is more work for an SR system th
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