On 11/07/2012 05:39 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
On 7 November 2012 11:11, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On Nov 7, 2012 5:41 AM, "Gregory Ewing" wrote:
>
> If anything is to be done in this area, it would be better
> as an extension of list comprehensions, e.g.
>
> [[None times
On 11/07/2012 01:01 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Robinson
wrote:
Interesting, you avoided the main point "lists are copied with list
multiplication".
It seems that each post is longer than the last. If we each responded
to every point made, this th
On 11/07/2012 03:39 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
Why? Just to get rid of an FAQ?
:-)
Here's one of the more interesting uses from my own code:
OK, and is this a main use case? (I'm not saying it isn't I'm asking.)
Replacing the list multiplication in that function with a list
comprehension would b
On 11/07/2012 04:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Andrew, it appears that your posts are being eaten or rejected by my
ISP's news server, because they aren't showing up for me. Possibly a side-
effect of your dates being in the distant past?
Date has been corrected since two day
On 11/07/2012 11:09 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Andrew Robinson
wrote:
OK, and is this a main use case? (I'm not saying it isn't I'm asking.)
I have no idea what is a "main" use case.
Well, then we can't evaluate if it's worth k
On 2012.11.08 08:06, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> It would be a lot better though if it just worked straight away
> without me needing to set the code page (like the terminal in every
> other OS I use).
The crude equivalent of .bashrc/.zshrc/whatever shell startup script for
cmd is setting a string valu
On 2012.11.09 11:17, danielk wrote:
> I'm converting an application to Python 3. The app works fine on Python 2.
>
> Simply put, this simple one-liner:
>
> print(chr(254))
>
> errors out with:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "D:\home\python\tst.py", line 1, in
> print(chr(2
On 2012.11.09 15:17, danielk wrote:
> I guess the question I have is: How do you tell Python to use a specific
> encoding for 'print' statements when I know there will be characters outside
> of the ASCII range of 0-127?
You don't. It's raising that exception because the terminal cannot
display t
and useful APIs and veritable piles of excrement.
>
>
> "There are only two hard problems in Computer Science: cache invalidation
> and naming things." -- Phil Karlton
>
"counting" is missing from that list of two hard problems.
~Andrew
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Hello,
why the following code doesn't print the content of the file:
#!/usr/bin/python
from_file ="file.txt"
in_file = open(from_file)
str = in_file.read()
print "Here should be the output from the file - ", in_file.read()
print "Here should be the output from the STR- ", str in_file.close()
Th
Mrab,
you nailed it. thank you very much!
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On 12/12/2012 12:29 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
On 12/12/2012 03:11 PM, Wanderer wrote:
I have a program that has a main GUI and a camera. In the main GUI,
you can manipulate the images taken by the camera. You can also use
the menu to check the camera's settings. Images are taken by the
camera in a s
On 12/13/2012 06:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I understand this is not exactly a Python question, but it may be of
interest to other Python programmers, so I'm asking it here instead of a
more generic Linux group.
I have a Centos system which uses Python 2.4 as the system Python, so I
set an al
On 12/13/2012 06:45 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
What am I doing wrong?
By the way, I didn't include command line parameters as part of the
function definition, so you might want to add them to insure it acts
like a generic alias.
Also, (alternately), you could define a generic python shell
0 -- the built in open() appears in
Python-3.3.0/Modules/_io/_iomodule.c;
There is another module defined in an object in
Python-3.3.0/Modules/_io/fileio.c; but I don't think that the one called
when a lone x=open(...) is done.
Cheers.
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On 2012.12.25 23:26, iMath wrote:
> why print(e) cannot print out any information ?
If you want to manipulate tracebacks, use sys.exc_info() and the
traceback module from the standard library. The logging module also
comes with an exception() function and an exception() method for Logger
objects th
On 2012.12.28 00:51, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
> The benefit of the tmux client (terminal multiplexer) is that I can see
> all the screens at the same time and quickly switch between them. I
> believe Linux has screen(1) which does the same thing.
tmux is generally easily available for Linux, and
On 2012.12.28 09:30, [email protected] wrote:
> Is the Python directory (i.e. "C:\Python33") assigned to the PATH variable
> using the Batch PATH built-in command? If so, where?
As of Python 3.3, there is a py.exe in the system32 directory that
launches the appropriate version of Python fo
r
to delegate to root, which has the DEBUG level set.
from logging import DEBUG, root, getLogger
from unittest import TestCase
class LoggingTest(TestCase):
def test_direct(self):
root.setLevel(DEBUG)
getLogger(__name__).debug("hello world")
similarly, if i run the following, i see only "done":
from logging import DEBUG, root, getLogger
if __name__ == '__main__':
root.setLevel(DEBUG)
getLogger(__name__).debug("hello world")
print('done')
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cending asshole?
anyway, thanks for the help.
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On 2012.12.30 22:18, contro opinion wrote:
> here is my haha class
> class haha(object):
> def theprint(self):
> print "i am here"
>
haha().theprint()
> i am here
haha(object).theprint()
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> TypeError: object.__new__()
On 2013.01.02 15:57, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Why is this solution not to your liking? Python has namespaces for a
> reason. They both keep code separated and modular. Use them. At most
> you should import the most commonly-used symbols only, and refer to the
> rest through their respective name
Does 'from __future__ import barry_as_FLUFL' do anything? Despite PEP
401, using print as a statement still raises a SyntaxError.
Where is 'from __future__ import braces' implemented in CPython (it's
not in __future__.py)?
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On 2013.01.05 13:07, Lee Harr wrote:
> When I go to wiki.python.org I get redirected to
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/
> which is 404 Not Found.
There's a security issue with moinmoin. The Python wiki is not the only
wiki offline for this reason.
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Hi,
I have a problem which may fit in a mysql database, but which I only
have python as an alternate tool to solve... so I'd like to hear some
opinions...
I'm building a experimental content management program on a standard
Linux Web server.
And I'm needing to keep track of archived votes an
On 01/18/2013 08:47 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Andrew Robinson, 18.01.2013 00:59:
I have a problem which may fit in a mysql database
Everything fits in a MySQL database - not a reason to use it, though. Py2.5
and later ship with sqlite3 and if you go for an external database, why use
MySQL if
Good day :),
I've been exploring XML parsers in python; particularly:
xml.etree.cElementTree; and I'm trying to figure out how to do it
incrementally, for very large XML files -- although I don't think the
problems are restricted to incremental parsing.
First problem:
I've come across an iss
On 01/24/2013 06:42 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Andrew Robinson, 23.01.2013 16:22:
Good day :),
Nope, you should read the manual on this. Here's a tutorial:
http://lxml.de/tutorial.html#elements-contain-text
I see, so it should be under the "tail" attribute, not the "text&
row a software/content
specific error on valid XML files;
I don't see which attribute of an element, or method, allows me to find
out the line number and column number that an element I am examining is
found at.
? How do I get it ?
Cheers, --Andrew.
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I think PyCharm is ideal for you.
http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
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On 2013.01.29 07:18, Jabba Laci wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a script that I want to run in different environments: on
> Linux, on Windows, on my home machine, at my workplace, in virtualbox,
> etc. In each environment I want to use different configurations. For
> instance the temp. directory on Linux
You're right, but it's pretty hard for some people to do what they're
supposed to when it isn't what they're used to.
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On 1/28/2012 1:48 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> How do you pronounce PyPI?
> * Pie-Pea-Eye?
This, primarily because it represents 3 words, and secondarily to
eliminate confusion with PyPy.
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It's a rare occurrence, but sometimes my script will terminate and I get
this:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\path\to\script\script.py", line 992, in
That's it. And the line number is always the last line of the file
(which in my case is a blank line). I have not seen this on Linu
On 2/3/2012 5:25 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Which version of Python, which version of Windows?
I keep that information in my signature for every post I make to this list.
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> If you upgrade Python, does the problem go away?
I use the most recent stable ver
On 2/4/2012 11:06 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I suggest you raise an issue on the bug tracker. If you can't reproduce
> the bug, it's unlikely to be fixed, but you might get lucky.
Since I can't narrow it down to any specific circumstance or code, I'll
gather information from a build of the inter
On 2/5/2012 9:13 AM, Anatoli Hristov wrote:
> and I get and error that TUPLE object has no attribute Append !!!
You defined mydict['name'] as a tuple, and tuples are immutable. Using a
tuple means that you don't ever want the values to change.
> But how to add new Values to a dictionary then ?
Thi
On 2/9/2012 4:46 AM, BlueBird wrote:
> Does anybody know how to fix problem 1 ? That way, I could at least
> deal with programs that print UTF8 on stdout.
I'm pretty sure there isn't a way. cp65001 is supposed to be UTF-8, but
it doesn't work in my experience (I fed it some UTF-8 demo text and I
go
I tried to build Python 3.2.2 with VS 2008, but it seems I'm missing
some header files (e.g. sqlite3, openssl). Is there a nice little
package with all the dependencies, or do I need to grab source code
packages for each program from their respective websites, or something
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On 2/11/2012 3:01 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> The readme file in PCBuild supposedly has all the info needed, though I
> know one thing out of date. Trying to follow the instructions is on my
> todo list ;-).
>
I didn't notice the readme in there. I was following instructions from
here: http://docs.
On 2/11/2012 3:02 PM, Eric Snow wrote:
> I'm thinking about this partly because of the discussion on
> python-ideas about the perceived challenges of Unicode in Python 3.
> For instance, if frameworks (like django and numpy) could completely
> hide the arguable challenges of Unicode in Python 3--a
On 2/12/2012 12:10 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> It's not just UTF8 either, but nearly all encodings. You can't even
> expect to avoid problems if you stick to nothing but Windows, because
> Windows' default encoding is localised: a file generated in (say) Israel
> or Japan or Germany will use a
On 2/12/2012 3:12 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> NTFS by default uses the UTF-16 encoding, which means the actual bytes
> written to disk are \x1d\x040\x04\xe5\x042\x04 (possibly with a leading
> byte-order mark \xff\xfe).
That's what I meant. Those bytes will be interpreted consistently across
all
On 2/12/2012 10:19 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> If it helps, ASCII art *is* UTF-8 art. So it will be the same in UTF-8.
As will non-ASCII text art:
/l、
゙(゚、 。 7
l、゙ ~ヽ
じしf_, )ノ
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On 2/13/2012 4:59 PM, Wanderer wrote:
> I think wanting to create a directory if one doesn't exist or do
> nothing if it does exist and just use the existing directory is a
> fairly normal programming need. Apparently this is somewhat
> complicated in Python.
There are new exceptions in 3.3, one o
On 2/15/2012 10:04 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I didn't realise that this was available until today. It doesn't appear
> to be prominent in the official docs or have I missed something?
> Certainly I'd have thought a couple of sentences here
> http://www.python.org/about/help/ would be justified
On 2/15/2012 3:28 PM, John Nagle wrote:
> Are you doing a conditional import, one that takes place after load
> time? If you do an import within a function or class, it is executed
> when the code around it executes. If you import a file with a
> syntax error during execution, you could get the e
On 2/16/2012 9:33 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 4:04 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>> On 2/15/2012 4:51 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
>>>
>>> > Is this the right list?
>>
>> This is neither the "right" or "left" list, however, it may be either
On 2/17/2012 10:51 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote:
> 在 2012年2月18日星期六UTC+8上午9时51分13秒,Michael Torrie写道:
>> On 02/16/2012 10:25 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote:
>> > Android is a customized linux OS used in mobile phones. I don't think
>> > any linux systm has to be locked by JAVA or any JVM to run
>> > applicatio
On 2/23/2012 4:43 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> First thing I'd do is to disable tab logic in the editor. When you
> press the tab key, there's no excuse for an editor to actually put a tab
> in the file. It should adjust the column by adding the appropriate
> number of spaces.
Unless, of course, yo
On 2/24/2012 1:11 AM, Manish Sharma wrote:
> Still my question is what if I open the file and dont make any changes
> to it and close it again? Can it be possible just by doing these steps
> add indentation to lines? I am not changing the file prefrences to open
> it always with notepad++. Opening
On 2/24/2012 2:32 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Are you referring to novice programmers – who, by any reasonable
> definition of “novice”, don't have an opinion on the tabs-versus-spaces
> indentation debate?
>
> Or are you talking about people who are experienced enough to have an
> opinion and expect
On 2/24/2012 5:21 AM, Duncan Booth wrote:
> The original question was about Notepad++ which is nothing at all like
> Notepad.
And I did give the OP an answer about Notepad++ specifically in another
message.
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On 2/24/2012 6:20 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Opinions need to be informed to be better than useless. By definition
> newbies don't have the experience to have informed opinions.
I thought I had implied that I meant informed opinions, but apparently not.
> There are many times that we can't affo
On 2/28/2012 9:54 AM, Smiley 4321 wrote:
> NameError: name 'self' is not defined
self is meaningless outside a class definition. You should refactor your
dump, load and print code as methods inside the class definition, create
an instance and call the methods on that instance.
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On 3/10/2012 6:34 AM, sl33k wrote:
> I'm trying project euler problem 3 and I've hit the wall with this
> error. What could be the problem here?
>
> l=[]
num=600851475143
i=1
while i<=num:
> ... if num%i==0:
> ... l.append(i)
> ... i+=1
> ... print max(l)
> File "
> To download Python 3.3.0 visit:
>
> http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/
The Windows links point to 3.3a1 installers, even though the links say
3.3a2.
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cx_Freeze is the only program that can freeze py3k code that I know of.
I didn't have any major issues with it, but I've only played with it.
In any case, if you're going to roll your own, I'd be happy to help test it.
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sh(self.value)
class DynamicTest(TestCase):
def test_lt(self):
three = IntVar(3)
assert three < 4
assert 2 < three
assert 3 == three
so what am i missing?
thanks,
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On 4/7/2012 8:07 AM, Bill Felton wrote:
> We are using Python 3.2 and tkinter. It appears, and limited testing bears
> out, that py2app, and presumably py2exe, are not options given lack of 3.x
> support.
cx_Freeze supports Python 3.2. It works fine for my purposes, but I have
not done any serio
On 4/7/2012 11:59 AM, goldtech wrote:
I thought if I SSH
> even from a Linux to a Windows machine whatever I say on the SSH
> client command line would be the same as me doing a command on the
> "DOS" command-line in Windows. I incorrectly thought SSH is just a
> tunnel for text...
It gives you wh
On 4/9/2012 1:52 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I think this will be a real winner, and you
> should team up with Ranting Rick to produce a new operating system and
> Python with this new specification and RULE THE WORLD!
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On 4/9/2012 5:01 AM, Janis wrote:
> I have this problem with my script exiting randomly with Linux OS
> status code -9 (most often) or -15 (also sometimes, but much more
> rarely). As far as I understand -9 corresponds to Bad file descriptor
> and -15 Block device required.
>
> 1) Is there a way h
On 4/14/2012 1:25 PM, vmars316 wrote:
> I installed portablePython(pP) here:
> C:\Users\vmars\Python3
> ?Does that look ok?
I would suggest including the minor version number (i.e. Python32
instead of Python3) because not all 3.x code is compatible with all
versions of Python 3.x - all code that w
On 4/15/2012 3:01 PM, Bryan wrote:
> I'd like to encourage my users to check out
> Python 3, but installing it on Windows will take over the '.py'
> extension and break stuff that currently works.
Have you tried telling your users to tell the installer not to do that?
IIRC, it's a simple checkbox o
On 4/15/2012 11:30 PM, vmars316 wrote:
> Isn't there a way just to doubleClick on myProg.py, to get it into the
> interpret/RUN?
Use the standard installer from python.org if you want to do things with
the registry. The standard installer sets up the registry for you so
that the interpreter will be
On 4/26/2012 6:37 AM, Kiuhnm wrote:
> Python has been "forked" into 2.x and 3.x because some breaking changes
> ought to be made to the language in order to improve it and clean it up.
That's not really a good way to put it. 2.6 and 2.7 will get security
fixes, but there won't be a 2.8 unless some
On 4/26/2012 8:02 AM, deuteros wrote:
> So how do I tell my IDE (Eclipse with PyDev) which version of Python I
> want to use?
When you start a new PyDev project, it will ask.
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On 4/28/2012 6:45 PM, Temia Eszteri wrote:
> Professional? He's boring!
I agree. Ranting Rick is much more entertaining (usually).
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Why wouldn't a for loop work? If something works, you can break out,
otherwise continue.
working_obj = None
for obj in iterable:
try:
obj.do_something()
working_obj = obj
break
except:
continue
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Forgot to add that all this is covered in the tutorial in the official docs:
http://docs.python.org/tutorial/controlflow.html#for-statements
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On 5/3/2012 7:36 PM, Peng Yu wrote:
> When convert two sets with the same elements to two lists, are the
> lists always going to be the same (i.e., the elements in each list are
> ordered the same)? Is it documented anywhere?
Sets are by definition unordered, so depending on their order would not
b
On 5/9/2012 4:25 PM, Alan Ristow wrote:
> Select the code block you want to indent and hit Tab. To do the reverse,
> hit Shift-Tab.
You can also select a code block and choose "Shift Right" or "Shift
Left" from the context menu.
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On 5/17/2012 6:48 AM, Mark R Rivet wrote:
> I am in the process of learning python, and want to learn tkinter for
> GUI stuff. Is tkinter what people are using for GUI?
tkinter is one of several GUI toolkits that can be used with Python.
IIRC, most people use PyGTK or PyQt for serious projects.
ht
On 5/22/2012 6:44 PM, Gelonida N wrote:
> I'd like to install python 2.6 and 2.7 on Windows?
>
>
> In fact I have already 2.6 installed and would like to additionally
> install 2.7
>
>
>
> When clicking on .py file I'd like to execute it with python 2.6
There is an checkbox for an option to
On 5/23/2012 3:25 PM, Gelonida N wrote:
> So I just install 2.7 and uncheck this box and I'll keep 2.6 right?
Different versions are installed in different locations by default, and
if you uncheck that box, the installer will leave file associations alone.
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On 5/24/2012 8:59 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> so I fixed that, and got
> inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
>
> because you mistakenly used tabs for indentation.
Not to start another tabs-vs.-spaces discussion, but tabs are perfectly
legal indentation in Python. That exception is
On 5/30/2012 1:52 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Was there a reason for dropping the lexical processing of
> \u escapes in strings in python3 (other than to add another
> annoyance in a long list of python3 annoyances?)
To me, this would be a Python 2 annoyance since I would expect r'\u3000'
to be li
On 6/3/2012 5:01 PM, Janet Heath wrote:
> Thanks Alain. I should have a compiler on my Mac OS X Lion. I am thinking
> that it isn't set in my $PATH variable. I don't know where the $PATH is set
> at. I will check to see if their is a binary.
There are always Windows and OS X binary installers
On 6/6/2012 1:45 PM, MRAB wrote:
> On 06/06/2012 18:23, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> [snip]
>> "range returns a « generator », convert it to list to see.." -->
>> "converts" instead of "convert".
>>
> No, "convert" is correct here; it's the imperative, i.e. "convert it to
> a list if you want to see.
On 6/10/2012 4:22 AM, Alexey Gaidamaka wrote:
> Practically the plugin is a simple html archive from python
> documentation website running
> inside Eclipse so you can call it using Eclipse help system.
> As for now it is pretty large (~7 mb), but i'm planning to optimize it
> in near future.
Rath
On 6/13/2012 1:17 AM, John Nagle wrote:
> What does "urllib2" want? Percent escapes? Punycode?
Looks like Punycode is the correct answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name#ToASCII_and_ToUnicode
I haven't tried it, though.
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On 6/15/2012 11:31 PM, contro opinion wrote:
> is the /usr/lib/python-3.2.3/bin/python3 same as
> /usr/lib/python-3.2.3/bin/python3.2?
It should be. IIRC, ls -l will tell you if something is a link. You
could also run python3 and it will tell you the version.
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On 6/17/2012 7:07 PM, Jon Clements wrote:
> I'm reminded of:
>
> http://xkcd.com/936/
> http://xkcd.com/792/
>
> There's also one where it's pointed out it's easier to brute force a
> person who has the code, than brute force the computer. [but can't find
> that one at the moment]
http://xkcd.
Perhaps this will clear things up:
Python 3.3.0a4 (v3.3.0a4:7c51388a3aa7, May 31 2012, 20:17:41) [MSC
v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> ua = u'a'
>>> literal_ua = "u'a'"
>>> ua == literal_ua
False
>>> input_ua = input()
u'a'
On 6/18/2012 11:32 AM, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> jmfauth writes:
>
>> Thinks are very clear to me. I wrote enough interactive
>> interpreters with all available toolkits for Windows
>
r = input()
> u'a
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> SyntaxError: u'a
>
> Er,
On 6/18/2012 12:03 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> And you're missing the context. jmfauth thinks we should re-introduce
> the input/raw-input distinction so he could parse literal strings. So
> Jussi demonstrated that the 2.x input did NOT satisfy fmfauth's dreams.
You're right. I missed that part of jm
Are there any tools out there that will parse a script and tell me if it
is compatible with an arbitrary version of Python and highlight any
incompatibilities? I need to check a few of my scripts that target 3.2
to see if I can make them compatible with 3.0 and 3.1 if they aren't
already. I found p
On 2011.06.03 09:42 AM, Cathy James wrote:
> I need a jolt here with my python excercise, please somebody!! How can
> I make my functions work correctly? I tried below but I get the
> following error:
>
> if f_dict[capitalize]:
>
> KeyError:
>
...
>
> def capitalize (s):
> """capitalize accep
lts of
lobpcg, or has experience with an alternate solver (such as JDSYM from
Pysparse or eigsh in newer versions of Scipy) with matrices of this
size, any recommendations would be grealty appreciated.
Thanks,
Andrew
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On 2011.06.09 12:18 PM, hisan wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Please let me know which one is GOOD whether Python 2.6 OR 3.2.
> Please let me know the difference between them.
> Please give some refernce site or books to know the difference
I'm just a beginner, but AFAICT, there are three reasons to learn Pyt
On 2011.06.10 08:09 AM, KK wrote:
> I have python 3.2 installed m not able to install PyQt.
> i have downloaded and configured sip but how to build it???
The pages are misleading. You only need the SIP source if you want to
build everything from source. Since you don't seem to be familiar with
On 2011.06.11 04:41 AM, Asen Bozhilov wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am beginner in Python. What is interesting for me is that Python
> interpreter treats in different way dot and square bracket notations.
> I am coming from JavaScript where both notations lead prototype chain
> lookup.
>
> In Python it seem
I'm pretty happy that I can copy variables and their value from one
object's namespace to another object's namespace with the same variable
names automatically:
class simpleObject():
pass
a = simpleObject()
b = simpleObject()
a.val1 = 1
a.val2 = 2
b.__dict__.update(a.__dict__)
a.val1 = 'a'
On 2011.06.11 09:12 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 6/11/2011 9:32 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
> > I'm pretty happy that I can copy variables and their value from one
>
> You are copying names and their associations, but not the objects or
> thier values.
Associations? The upd
On 2011.06.11 09:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> So never update from a random object you don't know well.
Of course. In the project I'm working on, this will be used in the
__init__() method of a class that accepts a pair of dictionaries or
possibly **kwargs (for flexibility and to avoid the very
On 2011.06.11 10:08 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> For immutable objects such as
> ints, this doesn't matter. For mutable objects such as lists, it can:
Well, that's confusing. How would I make actual copies?
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On 2011.06.11 10:40 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> It's exactly the same as with an ordinary assignment (‘a = b’) in
> Python.
Fair enough.
> > How would I make actual copies?
> At what level?
Level? I just want to be able to create an object b with values from
dictionary a, and not have changes to a refl
On 2011.06.13 08:58 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> That's one of the reasons I like my laptop keyboard so much.
I find that the terribly tiny keys on a laptop keyboard make them very
evil. I don't see how anyone could type fast on one of them without
making tons of errors. I constantly have to fix typ
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