On 2024-03-22, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
> Yes, I was mistakenly thinking that the popping the element would
> leave me with the dict minus the popped key-value pair.
It does.
> Seem like there is no such function.
Yes, there is. You can do that with either pop or del:
es, you likely will use
`concurrent.Future` (not `asyncio.Future`).
You can use `asyncio.futures._chain_futures` to associate
an `asyncio.Future` with a `concurrent.Future`.
Then the fate (result or exception set) of one will be reflected in the other.
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x27;third': 3}
Or do you want to be able to call it as in dict.remaining(key) by
subclassing your own variant of dict and adding a similar method?
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result/exception for a future in a "foreign" thread
("foreign" here means one not associated with the future's loop).
An aternative to the solution sketched above is to set the result
indirectly via `loop.call_soon_threadsafe`. This way, the
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On 3/22/24 11:45, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 22 Mar 2024, at 15:25, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list
wrote:
Many if not most Linux distributions do not include pip by default.
Really? It came with Manjaro.
Debian and Ubuntu require you to install pip as a separate package.
Also puts
;t happening somewhere). Anyway
at this point I feel like the easiest approach is to just throw away
threads entirely and learn how to do all I want fully in the brave new
async world, but I'm still curious why this is failing and how to make
this sort of setup work since it points to my not u
On 2024-03-22 12:08 PM, Thomas Nyberg via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
Yeah so flask does support async (when installed with `pip3 install
flask[async]), but you are making a good point that flask in this case
is a distraction. Here's an example using just the standard library that
exhibit
On 2024-03-23 3:25 PM, Frank Millman via Python-list wrote:
It is not pretty! call_soon_threadsafe() is a loop function, but the
loop is not accessible from a different thread. Therefore I include a
reference to the loop in the message passed to in_queue, which in turn
passes it to
d do what I wanted, although I have now decided I
want something else :-) Nevertheless it is good to know that 'del'
exists, so that I don't have to reinvent it.
Cheers,
Loris
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Grant Edwards writes:
> On 2024-03-22, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Yes, I was mistakenly thinking that the popping the element would
>> leave me with the dict minus the popped key-value pair.
>
> It does.
Indeed, but I was thinking in the context of
On 2024-03-25, Loris Bennett wrote:
> "Michael F. Stemper" writes:
>
>> On 25/03/2024 01.56, Loris Bennett wrote:
>>> Grant Edwards writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-22, Loris Bennett via Python-list
>>>> wrote:
>>>
"Michael F. Stemper" writes:
> On 25/03/2024 01.56, Loris Bennett wrote:
>> Grant Edwards writes:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-22, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I was mistakenly thinking that the popping the element would
>
On 2024-03-25, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
> Grant Edwards writes:
>
>> On 2024-03-22, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I was mistakenly thinking that the popping the element would
>>> leave me with the dict minus the popped key-v
something else and initially in Python were not
guaranteed to have any kind of order. Python dicts are more like unordered
sets.
So although there remains a concept of not first/rest but this/rest, I suspect
there was some thought about the process that ended in deciding not to supply
some
New_dict = {key:value for key in dict if key != "whatever"}
Or variants on that. It builds a new dictionary, at nontrivial expense, as
compared to using del on an existing dictionary.
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I have a python module that includes some C++ code that links with the
Python C API
I have now modified the c++ code so that it only uses the Limited API,
and linked with python3.lib instead of python311.lib.
I can now use that python module with different python versions on Windows
But on
It is not a symlink on my system, where i built python myself, but a
15KB so file. But it seems to lack lots of python symbols.
Maybe what i should do is actually make libpython.so a physical copy
of libpyton311.so before linking to it, so now on any system the
module would look to load
> On 29 Mar 2024, at 16:09, Olivier B.
> wrote:
>
> It is not a symlink on my system, where i built python myself, but a
> 15KB so file. But it seems to lack lots of python symbols.
>
> Maybe what i should do is actually make libpython.so a physical copy
> of libpyton
On 30/03/24 7:21 pm, HenHanna wrote:
https://xkcd.com/1306/
what does SIGIL mean?
I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of
identifiers.
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battle flags?), but didn't know what it meant. Google tells me:
*an inscribed or painted symbol considered to have magical power.*
So, they're more than just line noise. They confer power on their users...
Perhaps '@' in the context of decorators is the most prominent exampl
On 30/03/2024 07:04, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> On 30/03/24 7:21 pm, HenHanna wrote:
>> https://xkcd.com/1306/
>> what does SIGIL mean?
>
> I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of
> identifie
t(range(i)), "avg")
elapsed = time.time() - t
print(res)
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?
Which tuple I should use to refer to the underlying list value as you
suggest?
Anything else is good in my code ?
Thanks
Le dim. 31 mars 2024 à 01:44, MRAB via Python-list
a écrit :
> On 2024-03-31 00:09, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > I am creating a memoization example with
found and is required by the application
# ---end of output---
I have tried completely removing python's installation, and,
reinstalling it, but, same issue more or less immediately.
If I freeze pip's installed list within this specific virtual
environment, it lists the following:
On 3/30/24 10:31, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-03-30 11:25, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote:
> https://xkcd.com/1306/
> what does SIGIL mean?
I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of
identifiers.
I wouldn't
I am not sure if it was made clear that there is a general rule in python for
what is HASHABLE and lists are changeable while tuples are not so the latter
can be hashed as a simple copy of a list, albeit the contents must also be
immutable.
The memorize function uses a dictionary to store
Found many, many mentions of errors, with some of the same keywords,
but, no resolutions that match my exact issue at all.
As in, most of them are mentioning older versions of python, and, mainly
different platforms - mac and linux, but, various google searches have
not mentioned much of
may be that it also uses `__all__` to determine
a module's public API. In that case, setting `__all__ = ["f"]` in `A`
should prevent it from offering `math` as a completion (nor any other
name that's not in the `__all__` list).
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and
never looked at again.
You, kind of, are already walking into the world of pain trying to
make Python binary packages, and then you also want them to be
cross-platform, and then you want them to be usable by different
versions of Python... Unless it's for your own amusement, I'd just
A seal; a signet.
A sign or an image considered magical.
A seal; a signature.
Source:
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
5th Edition.
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On 01/04/2024 10.40, Stefan Ram wrote:
Q: How can I multiply two variables in Python? I tried:
a = 2
b = 3
print( ab )
but it did not work.
A: No, this cannot work. To multiply, you need the multiplication
operator. You can import the multiplication operator from
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:26 PM Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 01/04/2024 10.40, Stefan Ram wrote:
> > Q: How can I multiply two variables in Python? I tried:
> >
> > a = 2
> > b = 3
> > print( ab )
> >
> > but it did no
On 2024-04-01 12:35, Joel Goldstick via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:26 PM Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
^^^
from math import *
a = 2
b = 3
print( a * b )
I guess the operator "*" can be imported from any module... :-)
No import is neces
Is this a April 1 post for fools.
Multiplication with an asterisk symbol is built into python.
The same symbol used in other contexts has other contexts has an assortment
of largely unrelated meanings such as meaning everything when used to
import.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 1:27 PM Piergiorgio
turn word
something_to_be_done_at_the_end_of_this_function()
The call sometimes will not be executed here!
So, "return" is similar to "break" in that regard.
But in Python we can write:
def first_word_beginning_with_e( list_ ):
return next( ( wor
On 4/2/2024 1:47 PM, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
On 02/04/2024 19.18, Stefan Ram wrote:
Some people can't believe it when I say that chatbots improve
my programming productivity. So, here's a technique I learned
from a chatbot!
It is a structured "break&
#x27;e']) else None)
print(first_word_beginning_with_e( text ))
print(first_word_beginning_with_e( NorEaster ))
Result of running it on a version of python ay least 3.8 so it supports the
walrus operator:
eastern
None
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Op 28/03/2024 om 17:45 schreef ast via Python-list:
Hello
Suppose I have these 3 strings:
s1 = "AZERTY"
s2 = "QSDFGH"
s3 = "WXCVBN"
and I need an itertor who delivers
A Q W Z S C E D C ...
I didn't found anything in itertools to do the job.
The
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Subject: Re: A missing iterator on itertools module?
Op 28/03/2024 om 17:45 schreef ast via Python-list:
> Hello
>
> Suppose I have these 3 strings:
>
On 4/3/2024 1:27 AM, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
I am a tad confused by a suggestion that any kind of GOTO variant is bad. The
suggestion runs counter to the reality that underneath it all, compiled
programs are chock full of GOTO variants even for simple things like IF-ELSE.
Consider
instead of one at a time and so on.
How many people ask how to TEST the code they get, especially from an
AI-like ...?
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A
On 2024/04/02 17:11, Barry wrote:
On 1 Apr 2024, at 15:52, Jacob Kruger via Python-list
wrote:
Found many, many mentions of errors, with some of the same keywords, but, no
resolutions that match my exact issue at all.
Try asking the pyinstaller developers. I think there is a mailing list.
Hello. I already subscribed to this list several days ago. In fact, I did it
two times, and I received the email with the confirmation link in it, which I
clicked on and was confirmed.
Despite this fact, each time that I try to post a message to the list. I get a
response from the python bot
On 4/3/24 07:15, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
> Hello. I already subscribed to this list several days ago. In fact, I did it
two times, and
> I received the email with the confirmation link in it, which I clicked on and
was confirmed.
>
> Despite this fact, each tim
a number of years later when I left
BBSing behind, because I assumed it to be dead.
Anyway, just recently I put my BBS back online again for the fourth time since
1993, and I am again endeavoring to write a new python-based external -- a game
-- for my BBS.
Before I continue, let me inform you
On 4/3/2024 3:06 PM, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
Hello everyone! It has been a l-o-n-g time -- nine years in fact --since I last
participated on this mailing list.
[snip]
3. You are very familiar with the Jython 2 environment, which I am told is
based on Python 2 and NOT
, the folder/directory where all my python source code is
stored is set to be case-sensitive - there are a couple of ways to
implement this under windows 10 and windows 11, via some external
utilities, or by running the following command from a
terminal/power-shell window, running it as
Thomas Passin wrote:
On 4/2/2024 1:47 PM, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
On 02/04/2024 19.18, Stefan Ram wrote:
Some people can't believe it when I say that chatbots improve
my programming productivity. So, here's a technique I learned
from a chatbot!
It is a
such
as by asking it to populate a list. In such a case, you may not necessarily
want or need to use a generator expression and can use something
straightforward and possible cheaper.
What confuses the issue, for me, is that you can make fairly complex
calculations in python using various
On 4/4/2024 3:03 PM, Mark Bourne via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin wrote:
On 4/2/2024 1:47 PM, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
On 02/04/2024 19.18, Stefan Ram wrote:
Some people can't believe it when I say that chatbots improve
my programming productivity. So, her
erator would be destroyed once that call is done. If you
assigned it to a function-local variable, it would exist until the end
of that function.
What confuses the issue, for me, is that you can make fairly complex
calculations in python using various forms of generators that implement a sor
return result
```
But please be aware that such results depend on the implementation
and version of the Python implementation being used for the benchmark
and also of the details of how exactly the benchmark is written.
import random
import string
import timeit
print( 'The follow
Hi there,
My name is Shannon. I installed Python 3.12 on my laptop a couple months ago,
but realised my school requires me to use 3.11.1.
I uninstalled 3.12 and installed 3.11.1.
Unfortunately, I am unable to run python now. It keeps asking to be modified,
repaired or uninstalled.
Do you have
On 4/5/2024 5:32 PM, shannon makasale via Python-list wrote:
Hi there,
My name is Shannon. I installed Python 3.12 on my laptop a couple months ago,
but realised my school requires me to use 3.11.1.
I uninstalled 3.12 and installed 3.11.1.
Unfortunately, I am unable to run python now. It
On 4/5/24 15:32, shannon makasale via Python-list wrote:
Hi there,
My name is Shannon. I installed Python 3.12 on my laptop a couple months ago,
but realised my school requires me to use 3.11.1.
they can suggest 3.11 and there might be a good reason for that, but you
should not worry about
the major steps I have try are:
1.
Install python ver 3.7.1 or 3.11.8 by itself or customer installation (changing
the installation folder) and check add python to the path.
2.
pip install paramiko, if ver 3.7.1 installed, need to upgrade the pip version.
3.
Checking the environment path, the
To be sure, you can always go the the directory of the Python
interpreter and open a cmd window there.
(By entering 'cmd' into the explorer address bar.)
Then enter 'python.exe -mpip install paramiko'.
This way you can be sure that you're not running a pip.exe that b
On 4/8/2024 2:01 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger via Python-list wrote:
To be sure, you can always go the the directory of the Python
interpreter and open a cmd window there.
(By entering 'cmd' into the explorer address bar.)
Then enter 'python.exe -mpip install paramiko'.
This
Thomas Passin writes:
> On 4/8/2024 2:01 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger via Python-list wrote:
>> To be sure, you can always go the the directory of the Python
>> interpreter and open a cmd window there.
>> (By entering 'cmd' into the explorer address bar.)
>>
On 4/8/2024 3:35 PM, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin writes:
On 4/8/2024 2:01 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger via Python-list wrote:
To be sure, you can always go the the directory of the Python
interpreter and open a cmd window there.
(By entering 'cmd' into th
On 4/7/24 19:31, Wenyong Wei via Python-list wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam,
Recently I encounter a problem that I can't import paramiko in my computer. My
PC running on window 10 64 bits. I have investigate this issue via internet,
there are a lot of solutions for this issue, after trying mo
*It’s time to eclipse the Python 3.11.9 release with two releases*, one of
which is the *very last alpha release of Python 3.13*:
<https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-12-3-and-3-13-0a6-released/50601#python-3123-1>Python
3.12.3
300+ of the finest commits went into this latest maint
hi Sravan,
Thanks for your response, checked and found there is only one python in my PC.
From: Sravan Kumar Chitikesi
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2024 3:42 AM
To: Wenyong Wei
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'Par
e color of the user’s input is of a color of my choosing, instead of
just white?
Thank you very much in advance.
Kind regards,
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On 2024-04-10, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list
wrote:
> I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
> modules:
> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
> forceUppercase=True)
> Is there a way
On 10/04/2024 19:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
> I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
> modules:
> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
> forceUppercase=True)
> Is there a
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 04:50:49 +1000 WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list
wrote:
>Hello List,
>
>I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
>modules:
> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAccept=False,
> forc
On 2024-04-10, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 10/04/2024 19:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
>
>> I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my
>> Jython modules:
>> '\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E):
On 4/10/2024 6:41 PM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 10/04/2024 19:50, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote:
I have a simple question. I use the following textPrompt in some of my Jython
modules:
'\n[1;33mYour choice is? (A B C D E): ', maxChars=1, autoAc
his, since this works properly
This code is actually run from C++ using the C Python API.
This worked quite well, so the code was right at some point. But now,
two things changed:
- Now using python 3.11.7 instead of 3.7.12
- Now using only the python limited C API
And it seems that now, mys
rks properly
>
> This code is actually run from C++ using the C Python API.
> This worked quite well, so the code was right at some point. But now,
> two things changed:
> - Now using python 3.11.7 instead of 3.7.12
> - Now using only the python limited C API
>
> And it seem
On 4/11/2024 8:42 AM, Olivier B. via Python-list wrote:
I am trying to use StringIO to capture stdout, in code that looks like this:
import sys
from io import StringIO
old_stdout = sys.stdout
sys.stdout = mystdout = StringIO()
print( "patate")
mystdout.seek(0)
sys.stdout = old_st
little module of my
own, `cs.ansi_colour`, which you can get from PyPI using `pip`.
The two most useful items in it for someone else are probably
`colourise` and `colourise_patterns`. Link:
https://github.com/cameron-simpson/css/blob/26504f1df55e1bbdef00c3ff7f0cb00b2babdc01/lib/python/cs/ansi
tdout.read())
Well, it is not exactly like this, since this works properly
Aye, I just tried that. All good.
This code is actually run from C++ using the C Python API.
This worked quite well, so the code was right at some point. But now,
two things changed:
- Now using python 3.11.7 instead of 3.7.12
-
nice to see this tiny module of yours.
An URL or attach as inline text please.
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 05:00:32 +0200 Gisle Vanem via Python-list wrote:
>Pierre Fortin wrote:
>
>> Over the years, I've tried different mechanisms for applying colors until
>> I got my hands on f-stings; then I created a tiny module with all the
>> colors (cR, cG, et
On 4/13/24 07:00, jak via Python-list wrote:
Stefan Ram ha scritto:
jak wrote or quoted:
Would you show me the path, please?
I was not able to read xls here, so I used csv instead; Warning:
the script will overwrite file "file_20240412201813_tmp_DML.csv"!
import pandas a
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 1:10 PM Mats Wichmann via Python-list <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/13/24 07:00, jak via Python-list wrote:
>
> doesn't Pandas have a "where" method that can do this kind of thing? Or
> doesn't it match what you are loo
ild1'; 'top' is not a
package
whereas with 'from top import child1' the error changes to
ImportError: cannot import name 'child1' from 'top' (unknown location)
How can I make this work?
Best wishes,
Fabiano
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I am building a python work environment where
- i build python from sources
- install pip with the wheel bundled with python
- then install things with pip, like Jupyter
That environment is then deployed on various machines, at various
installation folders.
One issue I encounter, is the path
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:23 PM, jak via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> one thing that I do not understand is happening to me: I have some text
> files with different characteristics, among these there are that they
> have an UTF_32_le coding, utf_32be, utf_16_le,
Hi Team,
I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python
versions on different windows servers.
I have observed that uninstallation is working only with the account/login
using which the python version is installed. But for automation, we are not
aware which
ation. You seem to use it in all your
postings, too, which hurts my brain, but I guess that's my problem :-)
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"".join \
(
repl.get(s, s)
for repl in (dict(replacements),)
for s in
re.split("\\b(" + "|".join(re.escape(s[0]) for s in
replacements) + ")\\b", text)
)
How about just:
repl = {
"a" : "b",
"c" : "d",
"e" : "f",
"g" : "h",
}
"".join(repl.get(s, s) for s in re.split(r"\b", text))
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How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
For instance:
--8<>8---
>>> (0,0) < 4
Traceback (most recent call last)
On 5/3/2024 9:56 AM, Johanne Fairchild via Python-list wrote:
How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
For instance:
--8<>8---
Johanne Fairchild wrote at 2024-5-3 10:56 -0300:
>How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
>doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
>For instance:
>
>--8<-
On 2024-05-03 at 10:56:39 -0300,
Johanne Fairchild via Python-list wrote:
> How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
> doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
> For inst
On 5/3/24 05:55, Tripura Seersha via Python-list wrote:
Hi Team,
I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python
versions on different windows servers.
I have observed that uninstallation is working only with the account/login
using which the python version is
Thomas Passin writes:
On 5/3/2024 9:56 AM, Johanne Fairchild via Python-list wrote:
> How to discover what values produced an exception? Or perhaps---why
> doesn't the Python traceback show the values involved in the TypeError?
> For instance:
local variables etc.) It's tedious and prone to
errors. So, if you really want to do this automatically for every
error that's going to be quite a bit of work.
On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 6:58 PM Johanne Fairchild via Python-list
wrote:
>
> How to discover what values produced an excepti
On Tue, 7 May 2024 at 03:38, Alan Bawden via Python-list
wrote:
> A good error message shouldn't withhold any information that can
> _easily_ be included. Debugging is more art than science, so there is
> no real way to predict what information might prove useful in solving
&
On Tue, 7 May 2024 at 03:42, jak via Python-list wrote:
>
> Loris Bennett ha scritto:
> > [email protected] (Stefan Ram) writes:
> >
> >>Me (indented by 2) and the chatbot (flush left). Lines lengths > 72!
> >
> > Is there a name for this k
administrative access for the system and yet fails with exit code 3.
Installation is working only when we provide a specific user account in
automation. Can you please suggest a resolution for this issue.
Also, with the approach of using msiexec.exe to uninstall different components
of python
e-level name from
within a function, e.g.
spam = 17
def f():
global spam
spam = 42
f()
# spam is now 42
A script is a module, so everything that applies to modules also
applies to scripts.
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Hi Barry,
Automation is using the system account using which the installation is failing
with exit code 3. This account has the administrative privileges.
Please help me with this issue.
Thanks,
Seersha
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on behalf of Tripura Seersha via
On 5/10/24 03:39, Tripura Seersha via Python-list wrote:
Hi Barry,
Automation is using the system account using which the installation is failing
with exit code 3. This account has the administrative privileges.
Please help me with this issue.
Thanks,
Seersha
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