Op 20-11-15 om 01:33 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 07:57 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>> Laura Creighton :
>>
>>> My experience says that the people who are confused want lists to
>>> behave like tuples. period. i.e. they don't want lists to be mutable.
>> I think it's simpler than
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> I don't think the meaning of the word "value" can be restricted in that
> way. Let's try to "refactor" the examples I had found in the wild:
>
> "How to get the value of a variable given its name in a string"
> => How to get the object a
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> What exactly is your point? People's confusions don't disappear
> because you as an expert have a good understanding of what is
> going on and so are no longer confused.
>
> Some aspects in the langauage are easily grasped and other
> aspects
On 2015-11-25 09:00 Chris Angelico wrote:
> You appear to have installed it into your Python 3.4's package
No really me. I found out who.
I installed "ebscopy" from its GitHub repository with
"sudo pip3 ./setup.py install"
And this (tried to) install(ed) "logging" from PyPi. Don't know why.
I j
Chris Angelico :
> At some point, you have to simply accept that this is how the system
> works.. or use a different system. (Octal maybe.) If you are
> perpetually confused by Python, you need to either learn how Python
> works, or use something else.
You are mixing two things: protesting and be
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:40 PM, wrote:
> On 2015-11-25 09:00 Chris Angelico wrote:
>> You appear to have installed it into your Python 3.4's package
>
> No really me. I found out who.
>
> I installed "ebscopy" from its GitHub repository with
> "sudo pip3 ./setup.py install"
> And this (tried to
On 2015-11-25 19:51 Chris Angelico wrote:
> Ah! That would do it, yes. (Incidentally, 'pip install ebscopy' would
> be how I'd do it.)
Yes, I did first. But I had some problems with 'ebscopy' so I wanted to
be sure to get the freshes version of it available. ;)
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Op 25-11-15 om 09:32 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> What exactly is your point? People's confusions don't disappear
>> because you as an expert have a good understanding of what is
>> going on and so are no longer confused.
>>
>> Some aspects i
In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:22:54 +, ARONA KANAGARATHNA via Python-
list writes:
>I tried to install this software python 3.4.3 to my pc which run windows Xp
>32. i could installed but it doesnot run.it gives this message
>"python35-32/python.exe isnot a valid win32 app.Please help me
Op 25-11-15 om 01:55 schreef Laura Creighton:
> In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:39:54 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes:
>> I'm not sure what value [ha, see what I did there?!] there is in inventing
>> two new words for things that we already have standard terms for.
> Done correctly, you can get
Ulli Horlacher wrote:
> I need an input function with GNU readline support. So far I have:
>
> import readline
> readline.parse_and_bind("tab: complete")
>
> file = raw_input('File to send: ')
>
>
> Cursor keys are working, but TAB-completion works only in the current
> directory.
Op 25-11-15 om 01:36 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:25 am, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> The point is that a
>> tuple can just be loaded as a constant without needing something extra.
>
> How would one load this tuple as a constant?
>
> (myfile.read(), "%.5f" % sin(x or y))
Picking
Pavlos Parissis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you see any possible dangerous hidden bug in the below code(using
> python2.7 and python3.4)?
>
> My goal is to avoid go through the metrics list twice. But, I don't
> know if there will be a problem with doing in place replace of list
> elements using 2 gener
hello ng
well, it's about 10 minutes that's stuck at about 40%, installing C Runtime
Update (KB2999226) on windows 7 64-bit
is it a known issue (I must end the process manually and do something else
first) or I just have to wait?
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But true, I will try to research my questions more in depth before posting
here.
My goal eventually is to build a successful YCombinator based web-based
startup.
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 12:
Il giorno Wed 25 Nov 2015 11:14:16a, *Ammammata* inviava su
comp.lang.python il messaggio
news:[email protected]. Vediamo cosa
scrisse:
> or I just have to wait?
>
this one
It took ages to install, time to change my HDD
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 07:14 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 20-11-15 om 01:33 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 07:57 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
>>> Laura Creighton :
>>>
My experience says that the people who are confused want lists to
behave like tuples. period. i.e. they d
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 07:43 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> One psychological problem I'm seeing in many answers here is that people
> seem to want to defend the honor of Python.
No, your other honour!
(It's an Oglaf reference, and *definitely* not safe for work. I'm not even
going to link to it.)
Op 23-11-15 om 09:57 schreef Peter Otten:
> Quivis wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:40:17 +0100, Peter Otten wrote:
>>
>>> those questions that are a little harder
>> And just how is he going to determine what is hard?
> Note that I said "a little harder", not "hard".
>
> Write down your next ten
Scott Montreuil wrote:
> I have an if statement which seems to run both commands and I cannot
> figure out why. (just learning so I may be missing something obvious) Any
> ideas?
Use a Python IDE and debugger. I recommend PyDev, but YMMV.
> while True:
> global latit,longt,jlatit,jlongt
On 25/11/2015 10:26, Cai Gengyang wrote:
But true, I will try to research my questions more in depth before posting here.
Please also research how to intersperse your answers or bottom post.
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Antoon Pardon writes:
> Op 25-11-15 om 01:55 schreef Laura Creighton:
>> If I had a time machine, I would go back to early days of Python and
>> ban the use of the term 'assignment' and 'value' both. I would
>> insist that the term 'binding' be used instead, though if you want to
>> use the verb
Op 25-11-15 om 11:52 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 07:14 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> Op 20-11-15 om 01:33 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 07:57 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>>
Laura Creighton :
> My experience says that the people who are confused wan
On 25/11/2015 08:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
What exactly is your point? People's confusions don't disappear
because you as an expert have a good understanding of what is
going on and so are no longer confused.
Some aspects in the langauage a
Peter Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Is there a way to make TAB-completion work for other directories, too?
>
> Remove "/" from the set of delimiters:
>
> readline.set_completer_delims(
> "".join(c for c in readline.get_completer_delims() if c != "/"))
Great!
> > murksigkeiten
>
> I
Jussi Piitulainen :
> In point d, McCarthy refers to variables as variables; I'm sure this
> would go back to Church and 1940's at least, so I expect they used
> this word already back then. But the ability to store new content to
> the data structure that associates variables with stuff must be n
BartC :
> That was in preference to other choices which I found difficult and
> also elitist because of the advanced knowledge of CS and mathematics
> that it seemed you were expected to know.
Python is not a toy. It is a tool for advanced programmers.
Mathematics has barely any touching point,
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
>> But there's a big difference between those who guess wrong from a position
>> of ignorance, and then make an honest attempt to understand the behaviour
>> and why it actually does make sense and is even sometimes useful (even if
>> they don
On 25/11/2015 10:52, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 07:14 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
What exactly is your point?
That there is a simple analogy between the distinction between code
inside/outside a for-loop, and code inside/outside a function. If you can
understand why this loops f
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:35 PM, BartC wrote:
> One gotcha at least is well known. Where, in a language of the least
> surprises, you might write:
>
> d1 = date (25,12,2010)
> d2 = d1
> d2.year += 1
>
> You would expect d1 and d2 to represent a period one year apart. In Python,
> they would bo
On 25/11/2015 13:06, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
BartC :
Then, from the point of view of a beginner, you have two distinct ways
of representing a list of objects: a tuple and a list. Exactly why
there have to be two is never really made clear beyond the inadequate
explanation that one is immutable a
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> However, tuples are a way to represent records, groupings of related
> values, where the semantics of each value is determined by its position
> in the tuple. The members in a tuple are typically of different data
> types.
>
> Lists are col
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> I think "binding" is too fancy a word to be used with conventional
> programming languages like Python. If your programming language has an
> assignment statement, "binding" is even nonsensical. Consider:
>
>def f(x):
>x += 1
>
Op 20-11-15 om 08:49 schreef dieter:
> In addition, the last few days have had two discussions in this list
> demonstrating the conceptial difficulties of late binding -- one of them:
>
> Why does "[lambda x: i * x for i in range(4)]" gives
> a list of essentially the same functions?
C
BartC :
> Using tuples in the same way that other languages implement records is
> going to be difficult if you can't change the values of the fields!
Guido could decide tomorrow that tuples are mutable. The decision is
more or less arbitrary, and has to do with dictionary keys, I bet (not a
part
Chris Angelico :
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I think "binding" is too fancy a word to be used with conventional
>> programming languages like Python. If your programming language has
>> an assignment statement, "binding" is even nonsensical. Consider:
>>
>>def
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Zachary Ware
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
>>> still it appears to work only if the main thread is in the foreground
>>> (as of calling Thread() with deamon=True), I don'
Op 25-11-15 om 14:24 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>>> But there's a big difference between those who guess wrong from a position
>>> of ignorance, and then make an honest attempt to understand the behaviour
>>> and why it actually does make sen
On 25/11/2015 13:53, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
BartC :
Using tuples in the same way that other languages implement records is
going to be difficult if you can't change the values of the fields!
Guido could decide tomorrow that tuples are mutable.
(Could that be done without breaking existing co
Marko Rauhamaa writes:
> Jussi Piitulainen writes:
>
>> In point d, McCarthy refers to variables as variables; I'm sure this
>> would go back to Church and 1940's at least, so I expect they used
>> this word already back then. But the ability to store new content to
>> the data structure that asso
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:20:59 AM UTC-5, BartC wrote:
> Accept that some things /are/ a source of confusion. When, in writing
> documentation, I find something hard to explain something, then I try
> and make it simpler in the program. But not enough of that goes on: it
> seems to be
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
> problem solved !
> Just found out that threads should be started by fuse.init() in order
> to run when fuse is backgrounded.
Glad you found it; I would not have, not being a pyfuse user :)
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In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 07:13:41 -0800, Ned Batchelder writes:
>That's because it's a programming language, and very very little about
>programming languages is obvious. The best we can hope for is "familiar,"
>and even then, familiar to who? High school algebra students will at
>first b
>and even then, familiar to who? High school algebra students will at
>first be baffled by "x = x + 1", an equation which is clearly
>unsatisfiable.
Some languages are "better" in that specific case in my opinion (mind te
double quotes :-)
- Ada and Pascal use := instead of = which is simpler t
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> I agree with you: there are things about Python that surprise people.
> That's because it's a programming language, and very very little about
> programming languages is obvious. The best we can hope for is "familiar,"
> and even then, fami
Jussi Piitulainen :
> Marko Rauhamaa writes:
>> As far as the words "variable" and "binding" go, they are present in
>> lambda calculus (1929 and on):
>
> So it's more than ten years earlier than I thought. Old enough,
> anyway. Strictly speaking, that a Wikipedia article uses the words
> "variabl
On 25/11/2015 15:13, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:20:59 AM UTC-5, BartC wrote:
Accept that some things /are/ a source of confusion. When, in writing
documentation, I find something hard to explain something, then I try
and make it simpler in the program. But not eno
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Peter Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> to get down to one intermediate list. Avoiding the last one is a bit tricky:
>
> metrics = (converter(x.metric(name)) for x in self._server_per_proc)
> metrics = (x for x in metrics if x is not None)
> try:
> # if there is
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:56 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Since (x, y, z) is not a fixed value, it is not a literal.
Right. And therefore, (x, y, z) syntax is not syntax for a literal. Hence
why the Python docs call it a tuple display instead of a tuple literal --
no matter what x, y, z are. Even if t
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Peter Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> elif name in METRICS_AVG:
>> # writing a function that calculates the average without
>> # materialising the list left as an exercise ;)
>
>
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM, BartC wrote:
>> We have no way of evaluating their power or simplicity,
>> since they are not available to us.
>
> I'll see if I can rustle up a comparison so that Python users can see what
> they're missing!
Unless you're going to make the actual languages avail
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 02:59 am, Laura Creighton wrote:
> The great sticking point for the children I am teaching is
> '*' means multiplication. You can really see that some people
> have to make extensive mental modifications in order to handle
> the concept that mathematical truths are expressed i
Ian Kelly wrote:
>>assert metrics
>
> metrics is always going to be an itertools.chain object at this
> assert, so how could the assertion ever fail?
Should an assertion ever fail?
>From your reaction I conclude that it was puzzling and a comment like
# always true in a boolean context
would
Op 25-11-15 om 18:40 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:56 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> Since (x, y, z) is not a fixed value, it is not a literal.
>
> Right. And therefore, (x, y, z) syntax is not syntax for a literal. Hence
> why the Python docs call it a tuple display instead of
Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Peter Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
elif name in METRICS_AVG:
>>> # writing a function that calculates the average without
>>> # materialising the list left as
Marko Rauhamaa writes:
> Jussi Piitulainen writes:
>
>> You know, people have developed further ways to talk about these
>> things precisely because substitution semantics is inadequate for
>> what they wanted to talk about.
>
> "Assignment" is what everybody uses and understands.
You can tell tha
In a message of Thu, 26 Nov 2015 05:09:13 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 02:59 am, Laura Creighton wrote:
>
>> The great sticking point for the children I am teaching is
>> '*' means multiplication. You can really see that some people
>> have to make extensive mental modific
On 25/11/2015 18:03, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM, BartC wrote:
We have no way of evaluating their power or simplicity,
since they are not available to us.
I'll see if I can rustle up a comparison so that Python users can see what
they're missing!
Unless you're going to
On 11/25/2015 4:25 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I think there are reasons to find the above behaviour bizarre. I personnaly
don't find it bizarre, but that is because I'm familiar with what is going
on.
Which I suspect is necessary.
>but if someone expects the compilor to take a snapshot of L and
On 11/25/2015 5:20 AM, BartC wrote:
it seems to be more lucrative to write thicker user manuals, and provide
longer training courses, than to make software simpler.
If that were true, certainly by now the sufficiently thick manual would
provide crystal clear explanations. :)
I-don't-think-
Chris Angelico writes:
> This is a distinction I generally make. Putting it another way: a list
> has the same meaning regardless of how many items are on it (for
> instance, a shopping list is still a shopping list whether it has five
> or fifty items on it), where a tuple is a package where eac
Laura Creighton writes:
> The great sticking point for the children I am teaching is '*' means
> multiplication. […] that one can swap out a particular convention 'x
> means multiply' and swap in another one '* means multiply' while
> leaving the underlying truth unchanged.
Perhaps it would be e
I wanted to install python myself. I started with 2.7.10. If that
works I also will install 3.5.0.
I did:
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make altinstall
I have:
/usr/bin/python2.7
But when I execute this, I get:
Could not find platform dependent libraries
Consider settin
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued
> is that () is a literal. Then I have expaned that to that something
> like (3, 5, 8) is a literal. I never argued that tuple expressions
> in general are literals. And
On 25/11/2015 11:07 πμ, Peter Otten wrote:
> Pavlos Parissis wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do you see any possible dangerous hidden bug in the below code(using
>> python2.7 and python3.4)?
>>
>> My goal is to avoid go through the metrics list twice. But, I don't
>> know if there will be a problem with doi
Hello experts. I'm looking at this url:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names
I'm trying to figure out how to list all 'a title' elements. For instance, I
see the following:
Accident
Ala-Lemu
Alert
Apocalypse Peaks
So, I tried putting a script together to get 'title'. He
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> I wanted to install python myself. I started with 2.7.10. If that
> works I also will install 3.5.0.
>
> I did:
> ./configure --prefix=/usr
> make
> make altinstall
>
> I have:
> /usr/bin/python2.7
>
> But when I execute thi
On 25/11/2015 17:18, BartC wrote:
On 25/11/2015 15:13, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:20:59 AM UTC-5, BartC wrote:
Accept that some things /are/ a source of confusion. When, in writing
documentation, I find something hard to explain something, then I try
and make it
On 2015-11-25 20:42, ryguy7272 wrote:
Hello experts. I'm looking at this url:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names
I'm trying to figure out how to list all 'a title' elements. For instance, I
see the following:
Accident
Ala-Lemu
Alert
Apocalypse Peaks
So, I tried putti
Ben Finney :
> Perhaps it would be easier if you point out that ‘x’ doesn't mean
> multiply either, and they've *already* been substituting that symbol
> instead of the correct ‘×’ for multiply.
In my childhood, we always used '·' for the multiplication sign until
senior high school, when the vec
Steven D'Aprano :
> But by this time, we had already learned in secondary school that you can
> use any of the following to write multiplication:
>
> x × y
Not where I lived. (Those x's would have been a nightmare for the
teacher who had to mark people's test answers.)
> x ⋅ y
Yes. After all, i
Op 25-11-15 om 21:39 schreef Ian Kelly:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued
>> is that () is a literal. Then I have expaned that to that something
>> like (3, 5, 8) is a literal. I never argued that tu
On 25/11/2015 20:50, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 25/11/2015 17:18, BartC wrote:
Can you please let us know what you're taking, what it costs and where
we can get it, as we would also like to live in cloud cuckoo land,
provided that The Price Is Right™.
And I would really like to know what your p
On Wednesday 25 Nov 2015 21:49 CET, Zachary Ware wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>> I wanted to install python myself. I started with 2.7.10. If that
>> works I also will install 3.5.0.
>>
>> I did:
>> ./configure --prefix=/usr
>> make
>> make altinstall
>>
>> I h
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:42:21 PM UTC-5, ryguy7272 wrote:
> Hello experts. I'm looking at this url:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to list all 'a title' elements. For instance, I
> see the following:
> Accident
> href=
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 25-11-15 om 21:39 schreef Ian Kelly:
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
>>> I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued
>>> is that () is a literal. Then I have expaned that to that som
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:04 AM, ryguy7272 wrote:
> Ok, I guess that makes sense. So, I just tried the script below, and got
> nothing...
>
> import requests
> from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
>
> r =
> requests.get("https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names";)
> soup = Beautiful
BartC :
> I'm interested in language design because that's what I've done on and
> off for over 30 years. And I'm discussing some design decisions in
> Python.
That *is* a fun ambition, useful or not.
However, while I'm very choosy and critical when it comes to my
programming tools, I'm extremel
Hi
It seems that links on that Wikipedia page follow the structure :
You could extract a list of link titles with something like :
re.findall( r'\]+title="(.+?)"', html )
HTH,
-Grobu-
On 25/11/15 21:55, MRAB wrote:
On 2015-11-25 20:42, ryguy7272 wrote:
Hello experts. I'm looking at this
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 25-11-15 om 21:39 schreef Ian Kelly:
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
>>> I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued
>>> is that () is a literal. Then I have expaned that to that som
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> My system python was all-ready damaged: that is why I wanted to build
> myself.
Then you should try to repair the system Python install via the system
package manager. It's not worth the hassle to try to replace it; it
almost certainly wo
On 25/11/2015 22:16, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
BartC :
I'm interested in language design because that's what I've done on and
off for over 30 years. And I'm discussing some design decisions in
Python.
That *is* a fun ambition, useful or not.
(At the moment, it's mostly fun. But in the past I ac
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 5:30:14 PM UTC-5, Grobu wrote:
> Hi
>
> It seems that links on that Wikipedia page follow the structure :
>
>
> You could extract a list of link titles with something like :
> re.findall( r'\]+title="(.+?)"', html )
>
> HTH,
>
> -Grobu-
>
>
> On 25/11/15 21
In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 22:52:23 +0100, Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
>My system python was all-ready damaged: that is why I wanted to build
>myself.
Your Suse system probably wants to use python for something. If your
system python is damaged, you badly need to fix that, using the
system p
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM, ryguy7272 wrote:
> Thanks!! Is that regex? Can you explain exactly what it is doing?
> Also, it seems to pick up a lot more than just the list I wanted, but that's
> ok, I can see why it does that.
>
> Can you just please explain what it's doing???
It's a trap!
On 25/11/15 23:48, ryguy7272 wrote:
re.findall( r'\]+title="(.+?)"', html )
[ ... ]
Thanks!! Is that regex? Can you explain exactly what it is doing?
Also, it seems to pick up a lot more than just the list I wanted, but that's
ok, I can see why it does that.
Can you just please explain wha
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 6:34:00 PM UTC-5, Grobu wrote:
> On 25/11/15 23:48, ryguy7272 wrote:
> >> re.findall( r'\]+title="(.+?)"', html )
> [ ... ]
> > Thanks!! Is that regex? Can you explain exactly what it is doing?
> > Also, it seems to pick up a lot more than just the list I wanted
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:37 AM, ryguy7272 wrote:
> Wow! Awesome! I bookmarked that link!
> Thanks for everything!!!
Also bookmark this link:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags
And read it before you do any parsing of HTML using
On 26/11/15 00:06, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM, ryguy7272 wrote:
Thanks!! Is that regex? Can you explain exactly what it is doing?
Also, it seems to pick up a lot more than just the list I wanted, but that's
ok, I can see why it does that.
Can you just please expla
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Grobu wrote:
> On 26/11/15 00:06, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM, ryguy7272 wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks!! Is that regex? Can you explain exactly what it is doing?
>>> Also, it seems to pick up a lot more than just the list I wanted, but
>
Grobu :
> Sorry, I wasn't aware of regex being on the dark side :-)
No, regular expressions are great for many purposes. Parsing
context-free syntax isn't one of them.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy#The_hierarchy>
Most modern programming languages including HTML are con
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Regular expressions can handle any regular language just fine. They are
> commonly used to define the lexical tokens of a language.
Not sure about _defining_ them, but they're certainly often used to
_recognize_ them, eg in syntax highligh
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 05:27 am, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 25-11-15 om 18:40 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:56 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> Since (x, y, z) is not a fixed value, it is not a literal.
>>
>> Right. And therefore, (x, y, z) syntax is not syntax for a literal. Hen
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:41 am, BartC wrote:
> Maybe you're too familiar with it. But the idea of executing the
> function and other definitions in a file, instead of they just being
> there, is novel.
It really, truly isn't. Your viewpoint is clouded by too much immersion in
crippled languages. *
On 2015-11-25, Ben Finney wrote:
> That is, the ‘2’ in ‘cartesian_point = (2, 3)’ means something different
> than in ‘cartesian_point = (3, 2)’.
>
> Whereas the ‘2’ in ‘test_scores = [2, 3]’ means exactly the same as in
> ‘test_scores = [3, 2]’.
>
> If each position in the sequence gives the valu
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 01:34 am, BartC wrote:
> On 25/11/2015 13:53, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> BartC :
>>
>>> Using tuples in the same way that other languages implement records is
>>> going to be difficult if you can't change the values of the fields!
>>
>> Guido could decide tomorrow that tuples are
Chris, Marko, thank you both for your links and explanations!
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, ryguy7272 wrote:
> Hello experts. I'm looking at this url:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names
Wildly offtopic but interesting, easy way to grab/analyze Wikipedia
data using F# instead of Python
http://evelinag.com/blog/2015/11-18-f-tac
On 26/11/2015 00:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:41 am, BartC wrote:
Maybe you're too familiar with it. But the idea of executing the
function and other definitions in a file, instead of they just being
there, is novel.
It really, truly isn't. Your viewpoint is clouded by t
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 8:23:36 PM UTC-5, BartC wrote:
> On 26/11/2015 00:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:41 am, BartC wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe you're too familiar with it. But the idea of executing the
> >> function and other definitions in a file, instead of they jus
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