On Mon, 14 May 2007 18:30:42 +0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Can a discussion about support for non-english identifiers (1)
> conducted in a group where 99.9% of the posters are fluent
> speakers of english (2), have any chance of being objective
> or fair?
Agreed.
> Although probably
"Anthony Irwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| #2 What database do people recommend for using with python that is
| easy to distribute across linux, mac, windows.
Check out the sqlite3 module. (But I have not used it yet).
| #5 someone said that they used to use
Anthony Irwin wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am currently trying to decide between using python or java and have
> a few quick questions about python that you may be able to help with.
>
> #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file
> contains all the program files and you can exec
On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:15:21 +0200, ZeD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neil Hodgson wrote:
>
>> Ada 2005 allows Unicode identifiers and even includes the constant
>> '?' in Ada.Numerics.
^^^
> this. is. cool.
Yeah, right... The problems begin...
Joke aside, this just means that I won't eve
Eric Brunel wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:15:21 +0200, ZeD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Neil Hodgson wrote:
>>
>>> Ada 2005 allows Unicode identifiers and even includes the constant
>>> '?' in Ada.Numerics.
>^^^
>> this. is. cool.
>
> Yeah, right... The problems begin...
>
> Joke as
Hi list,
Is there a preferred way to distribute programs that depends on third
party modules like PyQt, Beautifulsoup etc? I have used setuptools and
just having the setup script check for the existence of the required
modules. If they're not found I have it exit with a message that it need
th
On 2007-05-15, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But then, where's the problem? Just stick to accepting only patches that are
>> plain ASCII *for your particular project*.
>
> There is no feature that has ever been proposed for Python, that cannot
> be supported wit
On May 15, 7:41 am, 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 15, 12:14 am, Steven Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > from string import replace
> > st = 'abcd acdfgxtit'
> > st.replace(' ','')
> > 'abcdacdfgxtit'
...
> The methods in the string module are deprecated. Skip the import and
Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Stefan Behnel a écrit :
>> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>>> but CS is english-speaking, period.
>>
>> That's a wrong assumption.
>
> I've never met anyone *serious* about programming and yet unable to
> read and write CS-oriented technical English
Anthony Irwin wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am currently trying to decide between using python or java and have a
> few quick questions about python that you may be able to help with.
>
> #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file
> contains all the program files and you can ex
"Anders J. Munch" wrote:
> Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> > And we have been through the Macro thingy here, and the consensus
> > seemed to be that we don't want people to write their own dialects.
>
> Macros create dialects that are understood only by the three people in your
> project group.
> PC-cillin flagged this as a dangerous web site.
An explanation would be fine about *why* the web site is flagged as
dangerous...
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On May 15, 6:30 am, Anthony Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file
> contains all the program files and you can execute the program with
> java -jar program.jar
As someone else has said, Python has eggs:
http://peak.telecommunity.com/
>> #3 Is there any equivalent to jfreechart and jfreereport
>> (http://www.jfree.org for details) in python.
ChartDirector
http://www.advsofteng.com/download.html
Again, not free for commercial use, but very versatile.
~Sean
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Tina I a écrit :
> Hi list,
>
> Is there a preferred way to distribute programs that depends on third
> party modules like PyQt, Beautifulsoup etc? I have used setuptools and
> just having the setup script check for the existence of the required
> modules. If they're not found I have it exit wi
Anthony Irwin a écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> I am currently trying to decide between using python or java and have a
> few quick questions about python that you may be able to help with.
>
> #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file
> contains all the program files and you can
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to do some integral calculation. I have searched the web, but
> haven't found any useful information. Will somebody point me to the
> right resources on the web for this job ?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> ps. Can numpy be used for this job?*
> *
It can be done wi
Steven Howe a écrit :
(snip)
>>
> Flame war? Here amongst all the reasonable adults programmers? It never
> happens.
>
Lol ! +1 QOTW
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:38:38 +0200, Duncan Booth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Recently there has been quite a bit of publicity about the One Laptop Per
> Child project. The XO laptop is just beginning rollout to children and
> provides two main programming environments: Squeak and Python. It is a
On Mon, 14 May 2007 23:14:23 -0700, Steven Howe wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Suppose i have a string stored in variable,how do i remove the
>> space between them,like if i have the name: "USDT request" in a
>> variable.i need "USDTrequest",without any space .
>>
On Mon, 14 May 2007 21:45:26 -0700, seyensubs wrote:
> Ah, I see, just slicing it like that.. nice! But after doing some timing
> tests, the version that's in place and using partitions is about twice
> faster than the non hybrid qSort. The hybrid one, with insertionsSort
> used for smaller lists
En Tue, 15 May 2007 05:43:36 -0300, Bruno Desthuilliers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>> Is code written today likely to still work
>> in 5+ years or do they depreciate stuff and you have to update?
>
> I still use code written more than five years ago.
Just as an example, PIL (Python Imaging L
Eric Brunel wrote:
> You have a point here. When learning to program, or when programming for
> fun without any intention to do something serious, it may be better to
> have a language supporting "native" characters in identifiers. My
> problem is: if you allow these, how can you prevent them from
Duncan Booth wrote:
> Recently there has been quite a bit of publicity about the One Laptop Per
> Child project. The XO laptop is just beginning rollout to children and
> provides two main programming environments: Squeak and Python. It is an
> exciting thought that that soon there will be mill
On Sun, 13 May 2007 23:00:16 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> automated -- if the patch uses an unexpected "#-*- coding: blah" line,
>> or
>
> No need -- a separate PEP (also by Martin) makes UTF-8 the default
> encoding, and UTF-8 can encode any Unic
On Sun, 13 May 2007 23:00:17 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote:
> Aldo Cortesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thus spake Steven D'Aprano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>>
>> > If you're relying on cursory visual inspection to recognize harmful
>> > code, you're already vulnerable to trojans.
>>
>> What a daft
* Eric Brunel (Tue, 15 May 2007 10:52:21 +0200)
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:38:38 +0200, Duncan Booth
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Recently there has been quite a bit of publicity about the One Laptop Per
> > Child project. The XO laptop is just beginning rollout to children and
> > provides two
George Sakkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out why Popen captures the stderr of a specific
> command when it runs through the shell but not without it. IOW:
>
> cmd = [my_exe, arg1, arg2, ..., argN]
> if 1: # this captures both stdout and stderr as expected
> pipe = P
Anthony Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #4 If I write a program a test it with python-wxgtk2.6 under linux are
> the program windows likely to look right under windows and mac?
wx adopts the native look and feel for the platform. I've used it
under linux and windows where it looks fine! I'
On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:21:57 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> password_is_correct is all ASCII.
>
> How do you know that? What steps did you take to ascertain it?
Why would I care? I don't bother to check it is ASCII because it makes no
difference whet
"Eric Brunel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:38:38 +0200, Duncan Booth
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Recently there has been quite a bit of publicity about the One Laptop
>> Per Child project. The XO laptop is just beginning rollout to
>> children and provides two main prog
Anton Vredegoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whatever you make of my position I would appreciate if you'd not
> directly conclude that I'm just being arrogant or haven't thought
> about the matter if I am of a different opinion than you.
Sorry, I do apologise if that came across as a personal at
Anybody tried it?
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:25:50 +0200, Thorsten Kampe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Eric Brunel (Tue, 15 May 2007 10:52:21 +0200)
>> On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:38:38 +0200, Duncan Booth
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Recently there has been quite a bit of publicity about the One Laptop
>> Per
>>
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> I agree that code posted to comp.lang.python should use english identifiers
> and that it is worth considering to use english identifiers in open source
> code that is posted to a public OS project site. Note that I didn't say "ASCII
> identifiers" but plain english identif
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch schrieb:
> You find it in the sources by the line number from the traceback and the
> letters can be copy'n'pasted if you don't know how to input them with your
> keymap or keyboard layout.
Typing them is not the only problem. They might not even *display*
correctly if you
Jon Harrop napisał(a):
> Anybody tried it?
Me.
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"We read Knuth so you don't have to."
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René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch schrieb:
>> You find it in the sources by the line number from the traceback and the
>> letters can be copy'n'pasted if you don't know how to input them with your
>> keymap or keyboard layout.
>
> Typing them is not the only problem. They might n
Steven D'Aprano schrieb:
> How is that different from misreading "disk_burnt = True" as "disk_bumt =
> True"? In the right (or perhaps wrong) font, like the ever-popular Arial,
> the two can be visually indistinguishable. Or "call" versus "cal1"?
That is the wrong question. The right question is:
Anders J. Munch schrieb:
> There's any number of things to be done about that.
> 1. # -*- encoding: ascii -*-
This would limit comments and string literals to ASCII, too. I use "-*-
coding: utf-8 -*-" in all of my code and I am still against this PEP.
It is useful to be able to spell my own name
On May 15, 8:05 pm, Jarek Zgoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jon Harrop napisa³(a):
>
> > Anybody tried it?
>
> Me.
>
Me too.
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I have a ctime() object that when I convert to string returns this
string:
"Tue May 15 12:27:11 2007"
Now I need to convert it in the following (string) format:
"Tue, 15 May 2007 10:25:40 GMT"
How can I format a ctime() object?
Can anyone give me (or lead me to) an example of a solution to my
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> Ok, but then maybe that code just will not become Open Source. There's a
> million reasons code cannot be made Open Source, licensing being one, lack of
> resources being another, bad implementation and lack of documentation being
> important also.
>
> But that won't chang
Thus spake Steven D'Aprano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >> Me, I try to understand a patch by reading it. Call me old-fashioned.
> >
> > I concur, Aldo. Indeed, if I _can't_ be sure I understand a patch, I
> > don't accept it -- I ask the submitter to make it clearer.
>
>
> Yes, but there is a huge gul
> - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why?
Yes. I want this for years. I am Chinese, and teaching some 12 years
old children learning programming. The biggest problem is we cannot
use Chinese words for the identifiers. As the program source becomes
longer, they always lost their thought ab
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> you have failed to do that, in my opinion. All you have presented are
> vague notions of rare and isolated use-cases.
I don't think software development at one of the biggest banks in Germany can
be considered a "rare and isolated use case".
Admittedly, it's done in Jav
On 15 May, 07:30, Anthony Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am currently trying to decide between using python or java and have
> a few quick questions about python that you may be able to help with.
>
> #1 Does python have something like javas .jar packages. A jar file
> contains all the prog
On 15 May, 12:29, Alchemist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How can I format a ctime() object?
> Can anyone give me (or lead me to) an example of a solution to my
> problem?
Use time.strftime. See...
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-time.html#tex2html122
Paul
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Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> My personal take on this is: search-and-replace is easier if you used well
> chosen identifiers. Which is easier if you used your native language for them,
> which in turn is easier if you can use the proper spellings.
I strongly disagree with this. My native language is
Hi All,
I'm looking to provide online python documentation for several jython
modules: does anyone know if there are tools to create documentation
from docstrings that work in Jython? Jython doesn't provide the pydoc
module.
I've looked into HappyDoc, which is supposed to work on jython as well
On 13 Mag, 17:44, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why?
Yes. For the same reason non-ASCII source files are supported.
> - would you use them if it was possible to do so? in what cases?
Yes. In the same cases I'd use:
1) non-English comm
Steven D'Aprano schrieb:
>
>> A Python
>> project that uses Urdu identifiers throughout is just as useless
>> to me, from a code-exchange point of view, as one written in Perl.
>
> That's because you can't read it, not because it uses Unicode. It could
> be written entirely in ASCII,
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> "go to" is not meant for clarity, nor does it encourage code readability.
Some people would argue that position.
> But that's what this PEP is about.
IMHO, this PEP does not encourage clarity and readability, it
discourages it. Identifiers which my terminal cannot even d
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Programming is such an English-dominated culture that I even "think" in
> English about it.
That's sad.
> My experience is: If you know so little "technical" English that you
> cannot come up with well chosen English identifiers, you need to learn
> it.
:) This is not
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> Sounds like high time for an editor that supports the project team in their
> work, don't you think?
I think your argument about "isolated projects" is flawed. It is not at
all unusual for code that was never intended to be public, whose authors
would have sworn that it wi
hi all,
can anyone explain howto get function from module, known by string
names?
I.e. something like
def myfunc(module_string1, func_string2, *args):
eval('from ' + module_string1 + 'import ' + func_string2')
return func_string2(*args)
or, if it's impossible, suppose I have some modules
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> René Fleschenberg wrote:
>> you have failed to do that, in my opinion. All you have presented are
>> vague notions of rare and isolated use-cases.
>
> I don't think software development at one of the biggest banks in Germany can
> be considered a "rare and isolated use cas
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Stefan Behnel schrieb:
>> René Fleschenberg wrote:
>>> you have failed to do that, in my opinion. All you have presented are
>>> vague notions of rare and isolated use-cases.
>> I don't think software development at one of the biggest banks in Germany can
>> be considered
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Stefan Behnel schrieb:
>> Sounds like high time for an editor that supports the project team in their
>> work, don't you think?
>
> I think your argument about "isolated projects" is flawed. It is not at
> all unusual for code that was never intended to be public, whose
On 15 May 2007 04:29:56 -0700, dmitrey wrote
> hi all,
> can anyone explain howto get function from module, known by string
> names?
> I.e. something like
>
> def myfunc(module_string1, func_string2, *args):
> eval('from ' + module_string1 + 'import ' + func_string2')
> return func_string
* Eric Brunel (Tue, 15 May 2007 11:51:20 +0200)
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:25:50 +0200, Thorsten Kampe
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Eric Brunel (Tue, 15 May 2007 10:52:21 +0200)
> >> On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:38:38 +0200, Duncan Booth
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Recently there has bee
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> René Fleschenberg wrote:
>> Programming is such an English-dominated culture that I even "think" in
>> English about it.
>
> That's sad.
I don't think so. It enables me to communicate about that topic with a
very broad range of other people, which is A Good Thing.
>> My
Bjoern Schliessmann wrote:
> class Source(object):
Little bug: The __init__ method of class Source should look like
this.
def __init__(self, ID, neighbour = None):
self.connections = []
self.ID = ID
if neighbour: self.connections.append(neighbour)
Regards,
Björn
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Stefan Behnel schrieb:
>>> Admittedly, it's done in Java, but why should Python fail to support unicode
>>> identifiers in the way Java does?
>> Your example does not prove much. The fact that some people use
>> non-ASCII identifiers when they can does not at all prove that it would
>> be a serious
Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> Because keywords are not meant meant to extended or manipulated or
> something similar by the programmers. Keywords are well known and only
> a limited set of words. That's why you can't use keywords as
> identifiers.
This is true for keywords, but not for the stdl
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Stefan Behnel schrieb:
Admittedly, it's done in Java, but why should Python fail to support
unicode
identifiers in the way Java does?
>>> Your example does not prove much. The fact that some people use
>>> non-ASCII identifiers when they can does not at al
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
>> I think your argument about "isolated projects" is flawed. It is not at
>> all unusual for code that was never intended to be public, whose authors
>> would have sworn that it will never ever be need to read by anyone
>> except themselves, to surprisingly go public at some
* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 13:17:13 +0200)
> Steven D'Aprano schrieb:
> >> A Python
> >> project that uses Urdu identifiers throughout is just as useless
> >> to me, from a code-exchange point of view, as one written in Perl.
> >
> > That's because you can't read it, not bec
Hi All,
Pydev and Pydev Extensions 1.3.3 have been released
Details on Pydev Extensions: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev
Details on Pydev: http://pydev.sf.net
Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com
Release Highlights in Pydev Extensions:
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* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 13:21:10 +0200)
> Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> > "go to" is not meant for clarity, nor does it encourage code readability.
>
> Some people would argue that position.
>
> > But that's what this PEP is about.
>
> IMHO, this PEP does not encourage clarity and reada
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Please try to understand that the fact that certain bad practices are
> possible today is no valid argument for introducing support for more of
> them!
You're not trying to suggest that writing code in a closed area project is a
bad habit, are you?
What would be bad abo
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
>> 1) Which additional potential for bugs and which hindrances for
>> code-sharing do you see with the with-statement?
>
> I'm not sufficiently used to it to understand it immediately when I read it.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0343/
It is not that hard to grasp.
>
On May 14, 8:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On May 14, 6:00 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [snip], but on *nix,
> > you can compile python with the "--prefix=" option set to a directory in
> > your home dir and install there.
>
> Check.
>
> > I rec
Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
>> Identifiers which my terminal cannot even display surely
>> are not very readable.
>
> This PEP is not about you. It's about people who write in their native
> language and who are forced to use a dodgy transcription from
> characters of their own language to ASCII.
I
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Now you are starting to troll?
Sorry, I was omitting the signs of sarcasm as I thought that would be clear
from the previous posts in this thread (which I was citing).
Feel free to re-read my post.
Stefan
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On May 15, 5:22 am, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Anybody tried it?
>
> > Me.
>
> Me too.
Anybody like it?
rd
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* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 14:04:07 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> > Because keywords are not meant meant to extended or manipulated or
> > something similar by the programmers. Keywords are well known and only
> > a limited set of words. That's why you can't use keywords as
> >
Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
>> That is a reason to actively encourage people to write their code in
>> English whereever possible, not one to allow non-ASCII identifiers,
>> which might even do the opposite.
>
> There is no reason to encourage or discourage people in which language
> to write their c
> with the same hash value.
> That is, you should define __hash__ and one of (__cmp__ or __eq__).
> __neq__ (inequality) isn't required nor used by dict/set implementation.
> (Anyway, Python will transform a!=b into not(a==b), if __neq__ isn't
> defined). Neither <, <=, >, >= are used.
No, it won'
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
>>> Identifiers which my terminal cannot even display surely
>>> are not very readable.
>> This PEP is not about you. It's about people who write in their native
>> language and who are forced to use a dodgy transcription from
>> characters of th
* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 14:19:46 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> >> Identifiers which my terminal cannot even display surely
> >> are not very readable.
> >
> > This PEP is not about you. It's about people who write in their native
> > language and who are forced to use a dodgy t
Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
>> It is impossible to write Python in a native language other than English
>> even with the implementation of this PEP. All you get is a weird mixture
>> of English identifiers from various libraries and identifiers in your
>> native language.
>
> You have a few English ke
* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 14:27:26 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> >> That is a reason to actively encourage people to write their code in
> >> English whereever possible, not one to allow non-ASCII identifiers,
> >> which might even do the opposite.
> >
> > There is no reason to en
* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 14:35:33 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> >> It is impossible to write Python in a native language other than English
> >> even with the implementation of this PEP. All you get is a weird mixture
> >> of English identifiers from various libraries and identifi
HYRY wrote:
>> - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why?
> Yes. I want this for years. I am Chinese, and teaching some 12 years
> old children learning programming. The biggest problem is we cannot
> use Chinese words for the identifiers. As the program source becomes
> longer, they always
Searching the web I have found:
from numpy import *
def simple_integral(func,a,b,dx = 0.001):
return sum(map(lambda x:dx*x, func(arange(a,b,dx
simple_integral(sin,0,2*pi)
Or in
http://pylab.sourceforge.net/
quadrature.py
Cheers.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb
am 15.05.2007 04:23:00:
I like to have unum units imported automatically on my PYTHONSTARTUP
since I'm always converting things, and I also like to use pyshell.
They conflict for some reason I don't understand (pyshell doesn't like
the Unum.as method, maybe since it will be a keyword):
1.0*IN.as(M)
File "", line 1
On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:14:33 +0200, Stefan Behnel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> René Fleschenberg wrote:
>> Please try to understand that the fact that certain bad practices are
>> possible today is no valid argument for introducing support for more of
>> them!
>
> You're not trying to suggest tha
Hi, I have a tree data structure and I name each node with the
following convention:
a
|---aa
||--- aaa
||--- aab
|
|---ab
|
|---ac
I use these names as keys in a dictionary, and store node's data.
Now given a name like "abc", I want to find the key with the following
rule:
If the key ex
Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> Just by repeating yourself you don't make your point more valid.
You are doing just the same. Your argument that encouraging code-sharing
is not a worthwhile goal is an ideologic one, just as the opposite
argument is, too (I do think that code sharing is very different f
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Anton Vredegoor wrote:
> The older they get the harder it is for them to learn language. By
> withholding them English language experience at an early age you are
> doing them a disservice because later on they will have more trouble.
What does "withholding" mean here? Remember: we're talking abou
On May 15, 5:30 am, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> George Sakkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm trying to figure out why Popen captures the stderr of a specific
> > command when it runs through the shell but not without it. IOW:
>
> > cmd = [my_exe, arg1, arg2, ..., argN]
> >
Stefan Behnel schrieb:
> You're not trying to suggest that writing code in a closed area project is a
> bad habit, are you?
I think that the idea that you know today, with 100% certainty, that all
parts of your closed area project will stay closed forever is an
illusion and thus a bad idea, yes.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So, please provide feedback, e.g. perhaps by answering these
>questions:
>- should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why?
I think the biggest argument against this PEP is how little similar
features are used in other languages and how poorly they are supported
by thir
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 03:49 -0700, HYRY wrote:
> > - should non-ASCII identifiers be supported? why?
> Yes. I want this for years. I am Chinese, and teaching some 12 years
> old children learning programming. The biggest problem is we cannot
> use Chinese words for the identifiers. As the program s
BartlebyScrivener napisał(a):
Anybody tried it?
>>> Me.
>> Me too.
>
> Anybody like it?
Tried id, did not found any use, put on shelf. Don't know if this case
fits "likes" or "doesn't like". ;)
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Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> * René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 14:04:07 +0200)
>> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
>>> Because keywords are not meant meant to extended or manipulated or
>>> something similar by the programmers. Keywords are well known and only
>>> a limited set of words. That's why you
René Fleschenberg wrote:
> Stefan Behnel schrieb:
>> And: if it's not a project you will ever getin touch with - what do
>> you care?
>
> I just fear that I *will* get in touch with identifiers using non-ASCII
> symbols if this PEP is implemented.
That's easy to prevent: just keep your fingers fr
* René Fleschenberg (Tue, 15 May 2007 14:50:41 +0200)
> Thorsten Kampe schrieb:
> > Just by repeating yourself you don't make your point more valid.
>
> You are doing just the same. Your argument that encouraging code-sharing
> is not a worthwhile goal is an ideologic one, just as the opposite
>
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