Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Dan Bishop
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik > Lundh wrote: > > > Max M wrote: > > > >> It also makes the escaped html harder to read for standard cases. > > > > and slows things down a bit. > > > > (cgi.escape(s, True) is slower than cgi.escape(s), for reasons that are > >

Re: accepts decorator

2006-09-26 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Monday 25/9/2006 21:58, urielka wrote: i think i got what the * and ** mean. *args mean arguments that are assigned by position(that is why *arg is a tuple) **kwds mean arguments that are assigned using equals a=2,b=3 (that is why **kwds i a dict) but why self is in *args and other thing goes

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Duncan Booth
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (cgi.escape(s, True) is slower than cgi.escape(s), for reasons that >> are obvious for anyone who's looked at the code). > > What you're doing is adding to the reasons why the existing cgi.escape > function is stupidly designed and implemented. Th

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Duncan Booth
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Booth > wrote: > >> If I have a unicode string such as: u'\u201d' (right double quote), >> then I want that encoded in my html as '”' (or ” but the >> numeric form is better). > > Right-double-quote is not a

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> yield dict(zip(Fields, NextRow)) > > the OP didn't ask for a field name => value mapping, though. What other kind of mapping could you produce? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Extend file type

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
abcd wrote: > Any ideas what methods the stdout (and I guess stderr) of Popen objects > from subprocess call? the external process only sees OS-level file handles (the number you get from the fileno() method on your file objects), not Python objects. no matter how you override things in your p

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Brian Quinlan
Paul Rubin wrote: > Brian Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> o cgi.escape is not meant for serious web application development, > > What is it meant for then? Why should the library ever implement > anything in a half-assed way unsuitable for serious application > development, if it can suppl

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread George Sakkis
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > you're not the designer... > > I don't have to be. Whoever the designer was, they had not properly thought > through the uses of this function. That's quite obvious already, to anybody > who works with HTML a lot. So the function is broken and

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Holden
Frank Millman wrote: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: > >>Frank Millman wrote: >> >> >>>I am reminded of a spoof Latin motto from the days of my youth - >>> >>> NIL ILLEGITIMO CARBORUNDUM >> >>isn't that usually written >> >>Illegitimi non carborundum >> >>? >> >>or is that just due to differences bet

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Brian Quinlan
Jon Ribbens wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Quinlan wrote: >> A summary of this pointless argument: > > Your summary seems pretty reasonable, but please note that later on, > the thread was not about cgi.escape escaping (or not) quote > characters (as described in your summary), but

Re: Makin search on the other site and getting data and writing in xml

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Google don't define "automated query"it, and I don't think they can. the phrases they use are well understood in the SE business. that's good enough for everyone involved (including courts; see below). > (What on earth is "meta-searching"? If you're going to use terms

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> well, if you're only watching mtv, it's easy to think that there's > obviously not much demand for country singers, blues musicians, British > hard rock bands, or melodic death metal acts. These days its even hard to get the idea that there is a demand of boy bands, rnb, euro trash or any oth

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik > Lundh wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> yield dict(zip(Fields, NextRow)) >> >> the OP didn't ask for a field name => value mapping, though. > > What other kind of mapping could you produce?

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Georg Brandl
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Max M wrote: > >> Lawrence is right that the escape method doesn't work the way he expects >> it to. >> >> Rewriting a library module simply because a developer is surprised is a >> *very* bad idea. > > I'm not surprised. Disappointed,

Re: Makin search on the other site and getting data and writing in xml

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Holden
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:51:55 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > >>http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html >> >>"You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system >> without express >>permission in advance from Google." > > > I'm not just be

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve >> Holden wrote: >> >> >>>When you use the DB API correctly and paramterise your queries you still >>>need to quote wildcards in search arguments, but you absolutely >>>sh

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Brandl wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik >> Lundh wrote: >> >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> > Georg Brandl wrote: > >> A function is broken if its implementation doesn't match the >> documentati

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steve Holden wrote: > Ah, so your quoting function will deduce the context in which arguments > intended for parameter substitution in the query will be used? Or are > you suggesting that it's unwise to rely on autoquoted parameters? That > could have a serious impact on the efficiency of some

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gabriel G wrote: > At Monday 25/9/2006 11:08, Jon Ribbens wrote: > >> >> What precisely do you think it would "break"? >> > >> > existing code, and existing tests. >> >>I'm sorry, that's not good enough. How, precisely, would it break >>"existing code"? Can you com

Re: accepts decorator

2006-09-26 Thread urielka
hehe i saw that,that is what made my understand it. the decorator now works. let say i have a function decorated with two decorators: @Accept(int,int) @OtherDecorator def myfunc(a,b): pass how can i make the two decorators into one(note:one get parameters and the other doesn`t) -- http://ma

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Brandl wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Max M wrote: >> >>> Lawrence is right that the escape method doesn't work the way he expects >>> it to. >>> >>> Rewriting a library module simply because a developer is surprised i

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Georg Brandl
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik > Lundh wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> Georg Brandl wrote: > A function is broken if its implementation doesn't match the > documentation. or if it doesn't match the designer's intent. cgi

Re: How to run in background?

2006-09-26 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Monday 25/9/2006 09:02, billie wrote: Hi all. I know that it's possible to automatically run a Python program in background by giving it the "pyw" extension. This is useful when I release a source ditribution of my program. How could it be possible to do the same thing with an .exe file compi

Re: QOTW (was Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?)

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Aahz enlightened us with: > Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>well, if you're only watching mtv, it's easy to think that there's >>obviously not much demand for country singers, blues musicians, >>British hard rock bands, or melodic death metal acts. > > Any other votes for this being

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Kind of defeats the point of having SQL, but there you go... there are plenty of reasons to use Python data structures instead of the SQL engine for data crunching. especially if you care about efficiency. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SimpleXMLRPCServer and socket

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Juju wrote: > But I still have a little question : > > How can I do to know which method I should override to make the things work ? > > Usually, I look at "python.org" but in this case, I couldn't find what > I was looking for. Finally, I had to look at the source files to under- > stand what

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-26 Thread James Stroud
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Ilias Lazaridis wrote: >> IDLE has an output format like this: >> >> >>> object >> >> >>> type >> >> >>> object.__class__ >> >> >>> object.__bases__ >> >> How can I customize it to become like that: >> >> >>> object >> >> >>> type >> >> >>> object.__cl

Re: SimpleXMLRPCServer and socket

2006-09-26 Thread Juju
Hi, 2006/9/25, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't have time to dig deeper into this right now, but this post might > be helpful: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/471411 I tried to override the "verify_request" method, it managed to get the ClientAddress, but in

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Monday 25/9/2006 20:09, walterbyrd wrote: I do. If so, I doubt there are many. That's why they get well paid :) (uhm, not really... :( ) Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL __ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí.

Re: Query regarding grep!!

2006-09-26 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
Of course you can always use grep as an external process (if the OS has it). For example: --- In [1]: import subprocess In [2]: out=subprocess.Popen( 'grep -i blah ./tmp/*', stdout=subprocess.PIPE, shell=True ).communicate()[0] In [

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Booth wrote: > The spurious escaping of the apostrophe does no harm, but spuriously > escaping a newline makes the select match the letter 'n' insteal of > matching a newline. And how would you get my QuoteSQL routine, as written, to make the same mistake yo

Re: Extend file type

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
abcd enlightened us with: > Any suggestions on how to find out? I did try adding to MyFile > > def __call__(self, *args): > print "calling:", args > return file.__call__(self, *args) > > but I never see that either. I don't know the answer to your problem, but I can explain why this d

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > What other kind of mapping could you produce? and here we go again. how about reading the code the OP posted, or the first few followups? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Surprise using the 'is' operator

2006-09-26 Thread codefire
I thought the 'is' operator was used to identify identical objects, whereas the '==' operator checked equality. Well, I got a surprise here: IDLE 1.1.3 >>> a = 10 >>> b = a >>> a is b True >>> a == b True >>> c = 10 >>> a == c True >>> a is c True >>> I was NOT expecting the last statement to ret

Re: Makin search on the other site and getting data and writing in xml

2006-09-26 Thread altemurbugra
GOOGLE IS NOT OUR SUBJECT ANY MORE. MY GOAL IS NOT MAKING SEARCH ON GOOGLE: MY GOAL IS MAKING A SEARCH ON www.onelook.com, for example -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[ANN] logilab-astng 0.16.1

2006-09-26 Thread Sylvain Thénault
Hi there ! I'm pleased to announce the 0.16.1 release of Logilab astng package. This release include some major bug fixes (pylint crashs, 2.5 compatibility) and have tests passing from python 2.3 to python 2.5 :). You're higly encouraged to upgrade if you're currently using the 0.16.0 release. W

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Sybren Stuvel wrote: > I'm suggesting functions based on the role of the string they need to > escape, not the characters in that string. > > 1) Quoting of wildcard strings for a query using LIKE etc. > 2) Quoting of values for putting into queries. it's actually quite amusing that some

Re: I need some help with a regexp please

2006-09-26 Thread Frederic Rentsch
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 25 Sep 2006 10:25:01 -0700, "codefire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > > >> Yes, I didn't make it clear in my original post - the purpose of the >> code was to learn something about regexps (I only started coding Python >> last w

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread MaR
walterbyrd wrote: > If so, I doubt there are many. My share of the waterfall :o) I do earn my (preposterously nice *wink*) salary from doing *all* major efforts, at the company I work for, in Python. Not only that, since I started out here some 5 years ago, nearly all software development of

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Lawrence D'Oliveiro enlightened us with: > The trouble with this is that, instead of offering extra functionality, it > leaves the door open to making two stupid mistakes: > > 2) quoting of wildcards BEFORE quoting of non-wildcards Why is this a "stupid" mistake in your view? Please explain th

Re: Printing a percent sign

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Machin wrote: > 1. Reasoning: How do you get a literal "'" into an SQL string constant? > How do you get a literal "\" into a Python string constant? How do you > get a literal "$" into some *x shell command lines? Do you detect a > pattern? None of which appl

Re: concat next line with previous

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us with: > hi > what is the python way to concat 2 lines eg concated = line1 + line2 Sybren -- Sybren Stüvel Stüvel IT - http://www.stuvel.eu/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Talking to marketing people about Python

2006-09-26 Thread codefire
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Unfortunately, if management goes further down the page, they find > Ruby and "D" (when did that get out) both rated so many up arrows they > had to use shorthand notation to represent 14 arrows... Yes, there is no doubt Ruby is gaining traction - mostly due to t

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread John Machin
codefire wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using the isinstance built-in function. I've found the docs for it, > but there are no docs on the supported types. It supports *all* types. > > For example isinstance(a, int) works fine but isinstance(s, string) > doesn't - because 'string is not known'. That's bec

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > > SQL databases like MySQL are _designed_ for efficiency. > > unlike the Python data types, you mean ? Did I say it was unlike anything? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Verify an e-mail-adress - syntax and dns

2006-09-26 Thread Christophe
Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:11:38 +0200, Christophe wrote: >> This is useless AND annoying at the same time. > > But people like us don't screw up our email address in the first place, > and if we do, we know how to fix it. Not everybody is like us. So you say that the bett

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > SQL databases like MySQL are _designed_ for efficiency. unlike the Python data types, you mean ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Printing a percent sign

2006-09-26 Thread John Machin
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John > Machin wrote: > > > 1. Reasoning: How do you get a literal "'" into an SQL string constant? > > How do you get a literal "\" into a Python string constant? How do you > > get a literal "$" into some *x shell command lines? Do you

Re: Surprise using the 'is' operator

2006-09-26 Thread Christophe
codefire a écrit : > I thought the 'is' operator was used to identify identical objects, > whereas the '==' operator checked equality. Well, I got a surprise > here: > > IDLE 1.1.3 a = 10 b = a a is b > True a == b > True c = 10 a == c > True a is c > True > > I

Re: Surprise using the 'is' operator

2006-09-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
codefire wrote: > I thought the 'is' operator was used to identify identical objects, > whereas the '==' operator checked equality. Well, I got a surprise > here: > > IDLE 1.1.3 a = 10 b = a a is b > True a == b > True c = 10 a == c > True a is c > True >

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sybren Stuvel wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro enlightened us with: >> The trouble with this is that, instead of offering extra functionality, >> it leaves the door open to making two stupid mistakes: >> >> 2) quoting of wildcards BEFORE quoting of non-wildcards >

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Jon Ribbens
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden wrote: >> I would have hoped that people don't treat that as a licence to be >> obnoxious, though. I am aware of Fredrik's history, which is why I >> was somewhat surprised and disappointed that he was being so rude >> and unpleasant in this thread. He i

Re: newbe's re question

2006-09-26 Thread Frederic Rentsch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Frederic Rentsch wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> These are csound files. Csound recently added python as a scripting >>> language and is allowing also allowing csound calls from outside of >>> csound. The nice thing about csound is that instead of wo

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Simon Brunning
On 9/26/06, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All right, sorry, looks like they want to load the entire table into RAM and > key it off the first field. Kind of defeats the point of having SQL, but > there you go... Keeping an in-memory cache of small, unchanging, frequently-read ta

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread Paul Boddie
George Sakkis wrote: > [Oslo, Norway short of 300-500 Java developers] > Um, how many of these "lots of Java developers looking for work" live > in, or are willing to relocate to, Oslo? Well, I really meant to say that the "lots of Java developers" I've seen actually are in Oslo. Certainly, ever

Re: Surprise using the 'is' operator

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
codefire wrote: > I was just trying to check if objects were the same (object), didn't > know Integers were a special case. they're not, really; "is" works the same way for all objects. when you ask for a new immutable object, a Python implementation may always reuse an existing object, if it w

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Sion Arrowsmith
Jon Ribbens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Booth wrote: >> I guess you've never seen anyone write tests which retrieve some generated >> html and compare it against the expected value. If the page contains any >> unescaped quotes then this change would break i

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread Gerald Klix
AOL^H^H^H, me too. And it's paid better than C++ programming. HTH, Gerald Gabriel Genellina schrieb: > At Monday 25/9/2006 20:09, walterbyrd wrote: > > I do. > >> If so, I doubt there are many. > > > That's why they get well paid :) > (uhm, not really... :( ) > > > > Gabriel Genellina > So

Re: Makin search on the other site and getting data and writing in xml

2006-09-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > GOOGLE IS NOT OUR SUBJECT ANY MORE. > > MY GOAL IS NOT MAKING SEARCH ON GOOGLE: > MY GOAL IS MAKING A SEARCH ON > www.onelook.com, for example """ Can you send me the list of words in the index? May I extract it from your site? No, sorry. If you're thinking about wri

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Georg Brandl
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Georg Brandl wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Max M wrote: >>> Lawrence is right that the escape method doesn't work the way he expects it to. Rewriting a library module sim

Re: ruby %w equivalent

2006-09-26 Thread Antoine De Groote
Antoine De Groote wrote: > Thorsten Kampe wrote: >> * John Machin (24 Sep 2006 15:32:20 -0700) >>> Antoine De Groote wrote: is there a python equivalent for the ruby %w operator? %w{a b c} creates an array with strings "a", "b", and "c" in ruby... >>> | >>> "a b c".split() >>> | ['a'

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
codefire enlightened us with: > I'm using the isinstance built-in function. I've found the docs for > it, but there are no docs on the supported types. All types/classes are supported. > For example isinstance(a, int) works fine but isinstance(s, string) > doesn't - because 'string is not known'.

Re: Makin search on the other site and getting data and writing in xml

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > GOOGLE IS NOT OUR SUBJECT ANY MORE. > > MY GOAL IS NOT MAKING SEARCH ON GOOGLE: > MY GOAL IS MAKING A SEARCH ON > www.onelook.com, for example this is usenet; you don't "own" the threads you start. if there's a subthread that you don't find relevant to your original

Re: I need some help with a regexp please

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Frederic Rentsch wrote: > If I may add another thought along the same line: regular expressions > seem to tend towards an art form, or an intellectual game. Many > discussions revolving around regular expressions convey the impression > that the challenge being pursued is finding a magic formul

Re: SSL meta data

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, BerndWill wrote: > The only solution from me and my colleagues view (as poor at it sounds) > is to setup a little python script "pinging" an amount of about 2.000 > servers in daily intervals checking for the validity of those SSL > certificates. There's no need t

Re: concat next line with previous

2006-09-26 Thread Simon Brunning
On 26 Sep 2006 03:16:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what is the python way to concat 2 lines eg > > line 1 with some text > line 2 with some text > > i want to bring line 2 up , such that i get one whole string. > > line 1 with some text line 2 with some text line1 = "l

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Lawrence D'Oliveiro enlightened us with: > You're proposing two separate functions: > > 1) quoting of non-wildcard specials > 2) quoting of wildcard specials I'm suggesting functions based on the role of the string they need to escape, not the characters in that string. 1) Quoting of

Re: Algorithm Question

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew McLean wrote: > I have the ability to query a database in a legacy system and extract > records which match a particular pattern. Specifically, I can perform > queries for records that contain a given search term as a sub-string of > a particular column. Wha

Re: Logfile analysing with pyparsing

2006-09-26 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
You can parse it just once, you just have to setup your data structure (the structure of your XML schema) and fill it up as you parse. For example, you can represent you data structure as a dictionaries in Python: message={ MID : { ' timestamp' : TIMESTAMP,

concat next line with previous

2006-09-26 Thread s99999999s2003
hi what is the python way to concat 2 lines eg line 1 with some text line 2 with some text i want to bring line 2 up , such that i get one whole string. line 1 with some text line 2 with some text -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Sequences: > str > unicode footnote: to simplify, there's also a "basestring" base class that can be used to check for either str or unicode: isinstance(obj, basestring) is equivalent to isinstance(obj, (str, unicode)) -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread Simon Brunning
On 9/26/06, Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Sep 2006 02:59:07 -0700, codefire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example isinstance(a, int) works fine but isinstance(s, string) > > doesn't - because 'string is not known'. > > In this case, you want "str" rather than "string". A c

[ANN] pylint 0.12.1

2006-09-26 Thread Sylvain Thénault
Hi there ! I'm very pleased to announce the 0.12.1 release of PyLint. This release includes some bug fixes and have tests passing from python 2.3 to python 2.5 :). You may be surprised by the version number since we have been missing public annoucements recently, and the 0.12.0 version has not r

identifying new not inherited methods

2006-09-26 Thread malkarouri
Hi, I am writing a library in which I need to find the names of methods which are implemented in a class, rather than inherited from another class. To explain more, and to find if there is another way of doing it, here is what I want to do: I am defining two classes, say A and B, as: class A(obje

Re: Printing a percent sign

2006-09-26 Thread John Machin
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John > Machin wrote: > > > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John > >> Machin wrote: > >> > >> > 1. Reasoning: How do you get a literal "'" into an SQL string constant? > >> > How do you get a literal "\" in

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Holden
Jon Ribbens wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden wrote: > >>>I would have hoped that people don't treat that as a licence to be >>>obnoxious, though. I am aware of Fredrik's history, which is why I >>>was somewhat surprised and disappointed that he was being so rude >>>and unpleas

Re: Printing a percent sign

2006-09-26 Thread John Machin
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > John Machin wrote: > > > I'll take your word for it; it's been quite a while :-) *Something* in > > the dim dark past worked like that > > makefiles? Bingo! Actually, double bingo!! >From the docs for GNU Make: """ Because dollar signs are used to start make variable refer

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread walterbyrd
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > someone just posted this > > > Site Perl Python > > Hotjobs 2756 655 > > Monster >1000 317 > > Dice 4828 803 > >From what I have seen, most of listings are not for python developers. Rather they list python as a "nice t

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread Duncan Booth
Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sequences: > str > unicode > tuple > list It is also worth mentioning that you can use "isinstance(a, basestring)" as a way to check for either string type although, of course, "isinstance(a, (str, unicode))" also works. So far as

Re: Surprise using the 'is' operator

2006-09-26 Thread codefire
Haha! OK thanks guys. I was just trying to check if objects were the same (object), didn't know Integers were a special case. Thanks, Tony -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Ordered dicts

2006-09-26 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2006-09-26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have found that in certain situations ordered dicts are > useful. I use an Odict class written in Python by ROwen that I > have improved and updated some for personal use. > > So I'm thinking about a possible C version of Odict (maybe

Re: Remap Mysql tuple to dictionary

2006-09-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> > SQL databases like MySQL are _designed_ for efficiency. Efficiency with respect to what? That statement is plain wrong. They are designed for a pretty general case of data storage efficiency, in the domain of relational algebra. And for a lot of use-cases, they offer a good ratio of ease-of-u

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Lawrence D'Oliveiro enlightened us with: > Because quoting the wildcards introduces backslash specials before > each wildcard. Quoting non-wildcards then causes those backslashes > to be doubled, which means they escape themselves instead of the > wildcards. I don't know about other DBMSes, but in

Re: Ordered dicts

2006-09-26 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Deleted keys from a dict/set aren't removed, they are tagged as > deleted. > My experience of CPython sources is tiny, I have just read few parts, > so a person much more expert than me can comment the following lines. > > During the printing of the set/dict I think suc

where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread codefire
Hi, I'm using the isinstance built-in function. I've found the docs for it, but there are no docs on the supported types. For example isinstance(a, int) works fine but isinstance(s, string) doesn't - because 'string is not known'. I do know how to import the types module and then use defined typ

Re: Surprise using the 'is' operator

2006-09-26 Thread codefire
Thanks for that Fredrik, that's clear. That's actually a pretty nice feature as it's nicely optimised. >>> a = 10 >>> c = 10 >>> a is c True >>> c = c +1 >>> a is c False >>> Cheers, Tony -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Jim
Jon Ribbens wrote: > You're right - I've never seen anyone do such a thing. It sounds like > a highly dubious and very fragile sort of test to me, of very limited > use. I have code that checks to see if my CGI scripts generate the pages that I expect. That code would break. (Whether I should n

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Jon Ribbens
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > the same documentation tells people what function to use if they > want to quote *every-thing* that might need to be quoted, so if > people did actually understand everything that was written in a > reasonably clear way, this thread wouldn't ev

Re: R.S.I. solutions?

2006-09-26 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paddy schrieb: > > All this keyboarding has finally caught up with me and I'm getting > > aches in my fingers. > But I can share some other advice: go to a physiotherapist and let him > show you some exercises for the back. My problems (both lower a

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
codefire wrote: > I'm using the isinstance built-in function. I've found the docs for it, > but there are no docs on the supported types. *all* types and classes can be used. > For example isinstance(a, int) works fine but isinstance(s, string) > doesn't - because 'string is not known'. > > I d

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Jon Ribbens wrote: >> does the word "information set" mean anything to you? > > You would appear to be talking about either game theory, or XML, > neither of which have anything to do with HTML. you see no connection between XML's concept of information set and HTML? (hint: what's XHTML?)

odbc DbiDate date conversion

2006-09-26 Thread flupke
I'm using a solid DB and i'm accessing it via the odbc module (activepython). I get a DbiDate object returned but i don't find a way to decently print it or get a format like %d/%m%/%y. I found a few posts but the code doesn't work. >>> birthd = results[0][4] #info from db >>> birthd >>> str(birt

Re: Running Python script from C++ code(.NET)

2006-09-26 Thread volcano
volcano wrote: > Hello, folks! > A trivial question - I have a working Python script that I have to > invoke from C++ code. No fancy stuff - just run the whole script with > its parameters. No callbacks, no signalling - nada, just > stupid,primitive, straightforward call. > > And while there is a l

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
walterbyrd enlightened us with: > If so, I doubt there are many. > > I wonder why that is? www.uwklantprofiel.nl and www.uwpensioenanalyse.nl, both systems are written in Python, although the website of the former is still in PHP. It'll be Python soon, too. I've created both systems. Sybren --

Re: A critique of cgi.escape

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Jon Ribbens wrote: >> the same documentation tells people what function to use if they >> want to quote *every-thing* that might need to be quoted, so if >> people did actually understand everything that was written in a >> reasonably clear way, this thread wouldn't even exist. > > The fact that y

Re: ultra newbie question (don't laugh)

2006-09-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
John Salerno wrote: > So you see, what I'm asking for is very basic help, sort of along the > lines of "what things do I need to consider before I even begin this?" > Is OOP necessary here? Would utility functions work just as well for > simply writing the information to a file? when you get p

Re: does anybody earn a living programming in python?

2006-09-26 Thread Anthony Baxter
This seems to be a very, very silly original post. I know of plenty of people who make a living programming Python. It's been the vast majority of the programming (for money) I've done in the last ten years, and there's countless other people I know here in Melbourne in the same position. -- http:

Re: where are isinstance types documented?

2006-09-26 Thread codefire
OK Simon, thanks for that link, I think I can ferret out the common types from there. Tony -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Booth wrote: > However, your QuoteSQL messes up every time because it wraps double > quotes round the whole string, so it isn't suitable for use with > parameterised queries at all. If you care to modify it to work in that > situation I think you'll find that

Re: QuoteSQL

2006-09-26 Thread Carsten Haese
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 07:08, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > So yes, there should be two separate functions, one for escaping > non-wildcard specials, and one for escaping wildcards. > > > You only need the first one, since every database interface that > > follows PEP 249. > > You still need the se

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