Could you share the traceback / error that you are seeing?
On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 03:23:21PM -0400, Quentin Bock wrote:
Code:
#imports and variables for game
import pygame
from pygame import mixer
running = True
#initializes pygame
pygame.init()
#creates the pygame window
screen = pygame.dis
On Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 21:04:40 UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 5/2/21 1:23 PM, Quentin Bock wrote:
> > the error apparently comes from the first instructions variable saying
> > library not initialized not sure why, its worked before but not now :/
> I don't get that error on my Fedora 32 ma
On 5/2/21 1:23 PM, Quentin Bock wrote:
> the error apparently comes from the first instructions variable saying
> library not initialized not sure why, its worked before but not now :/
I don't get that error on my Fedora 32 machine. The script ultimately
doesn't run because it can't find the icon
On 12/15/2020 11:25 AM, Bob Gailer wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 10:42 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2020-12-15 at 16:04:55 +0100,
Jan Erik Moström wrote:
I want to do some text substitutions but a bit more advanced than what
string.Template class can do. I addition to pla
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 10:42 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2020-12-15 at 16:04:55 +0100,
> Jan Erik Moström wrote:
>
> > I want to do some text substitutions but a bit more advanced than what
> > string.Template class can do. I addition to plain text substitution I
> would
>
On 2020-12-15 at 16:04:55 +0100,
Jan Erik Moström wrote:
> I want to do some text substitutions but a bit more advanced than what
> string.Template class can do. I addition to plain text substitution I would
> like to be able to do some calculations:
>
> $value+1 - If value is 16 this would inse
On 2019-11-25 16:31 +03, Noah wrote:
>>From experience, could someone point me to a library that can do a diff
> between two separate text files...
>
> *difflib* doesn't seem to cut it to this end
Kinda simplistic idea, but would shelling out to diff(1) work for you?
GNU diff is probably one
On 30Mar2019 10:29, Paul Moore wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 23:21, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 27Mar2019 18:41, Paul Moore wrote:
>I'm looking for a library that lets me parse binary data structures.
>The stdlib struct module is fine for simple structures, but when it
>gets to more complicate
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 23:21, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> On 27Mar2019 18:41, Paul Moore wrote:
> >I'm looking for a library that lets me parse binary data structures.
> >The stdlib struct module is fine for simple structures, but when it
> >gets to more complicated cases, you end up doing a lot o
On 30Mar2019 09:44, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 27Mar2019 18:41, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm looking for a library that lets me parse binary data structures.
The stdlib struct module is fine for simple structures, but when it
gets to more complicated cases, you end up doing a lot of the work by
hand (
On 27Mar2019 18:41, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm looking for a library that lets me parse binary data structures.
The stdlib struct module is fine for simple structures, but when it
gets to more complicated cases, you end up doing a lot of the work by
hand (which isn't that hard, and is generally perfe
On 2019-03-29 16:34:35 +, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 16:16, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> > Obviously you need some way to describe the specific binary format you
> > want to parse - in other words, a grammar. The library could then use
> > the grammar to parse the input - either
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 16:16, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> Obviously you need some way to describe the specific binary format you
> want to parse - in other words, a grammar. The library could then use
> the grammar to parse the input - either by interpreting it directly, or
> by generating (Python)
On 3/29/19 12:13 PM, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
Obviously you need some way to describe the specific binary format you
want to parse - in other words, a grammar. The library could then use
the grammar to parse the input - either by interpreting it directly, or
by generating (Python) code from it. Th
On 2019-03-28 11:07:22 +0100, dieter wrote:
> Paul Moore writes:
> > My real interest is in whether any libraries exist to do this sort
> > of thing (there are plenty of parser libraries for text, pyparsing
> > being the obvious one, but far fewer for binary structures).
>
> Sure. *BUT* the libra
Paul Moore writes:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 08:15, dieter wrote:
> ...
> My real interest is in whether any
> libraries exist to do this sort of thing (there are plenty of parser
> libraries for text, pyparsing being the obvious one, but far fewer for
> binary structures).
Sure. *BUT* the libra
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 08:15, dieter wrote:
> What you have is a generalized deserialization problem.
> It can be solved with a set of deserializers.
Yes, and thanks for the suggested code structure. As I say, I can
certainly do the parsing "by hand", and the way you describe is very
similar to h
Paul Moore writes:
> I'm looking for a library that lets me parse binary data structures.
> The stdlib struct module is fine for simple structures, but when it
> gets to more complicated cases, you end up doing a lot of the work by
> hand (which isn't that hard, and is generally perfectly viable,
On 2015-12-21, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:51:00 +, Grant Edwards writes:
>>Is there a standard library function that can be used to encode data
>>into multipart/form-data format? IIRC, I looked for this once before
>>and didn't find anything in the library.
In a message of Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:51:00 +, Grant Edwards writes:
>Is there a standard library function that can be used to encode data
>into multipart/form-data format? IIRC, I looked for this once before
>and didn't find anything in the library.
>
>[I don't want to actually send an HTTP PO
On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 7:53:27 PM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:36 AM, wrote:
> > The solution ended up being editing the top-level __init__.py:
> >
> > import awesome
> >
> > and then *when in a subdirectory*:
> >
> > import awesome_lib as awesome
> >
> > and *
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:36 AM, wrote:
> The solution ended up being editing the top-level __init__.py:
>
> import awesome
>
> and then *when in a subdirectory*:
>
> import awesome_lib as awesome
>
> and *when in a different top-level file*:
>
> import awesome.
>
> IOW (from what I can tell) I m
Thanks, I appreciate the help. I did figure this out.
Chris - apologies for the error in my example, it should have been 'import
util' within awesome.py. IOW, I was looking for awesome.util.helper to be
available, and I also wanted awesome.foo available within helper.py.
The solution ended up b
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:48 AM, wrote:
> Apologies, I'm a rubyist and this is a beginner question but I'm not finding
> a great answer with lots of googling. I am writing a library, organized
> something like this:
>
> awesome_lib/awesome.py
> awesome_lib/util/__init__.py
> awesome_lib/util/he
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:48:23 -0700, richmolj wrote:
> Apologies, I'm a rubyist and this is a beginner question but I'm not
> finding a great answer with lots of googling. I am writing a library,
> organized something like this:
>
> awesome_lib/awesome.py awesome_lib/util/__init__.py
> awesome_lib
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:48:23 -0700, richmolj wrote:
> Apologies, I'm a rubyist and this is a beginner question but I'm not
> finding a great answer with lots of googling. I am writing a library,
> organized something like this:
>
> awesome_lib/awesome.py awesome_lib/util/__init__.py
> awesome_lib
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Darren Spruell wrote:
>
>> I'd like to work with user submitted/uploaded SSH public keys from
>> Python. I'm trying to solve what I'd thought might be a simple need:
>> given a user's OpenSSH formatted _public_ key (RSA, or DSA, o
In article ,
Darren Spruell wrote:
> I'd like to work with user submitted/uploaded SSH public keys from
> Python. I'm trying to solve what I'd thought might be a simple need:
> given a user's OpenSSH formatted _public_ key (RSA, or DSA, or
> whatever), how do you obtain information about it such
Peo wrote:
Is there some other smart way to do acheive this?
Just turn them info python packages, and use buildout, pip or some other
python package management tool to create the versions.
You may, of course, just be able to svn the lot of them...
(then you don't need to worry about numberin
In message
<2cb0c88b-58ea-4704-8578-2ebd766f1...@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, Peo
wrote:
> My current plan is to call the library something like 'foo1' and
> import it into scripts like 'import foo1 as foo'. Releases that change the
> API would be installed as 'foo2', 'foo3' and so on. This wo
On Jul 24, 8:56 am, Peo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm writing a library for doing sysadmin tasks at my workplace. These
> kind of
> scripts have a tendency to live for decades and I want to make sure
> that I don't break anything when I'm updating the library.
>
> My current plan is to call the library som
On 1/28/2010 1:37 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
David Cournapeau writes:
That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary
packages need to package binaries for every minor version (2.4, 2.5,
etc...)
I doubt that's what Paul was referring to, though - he seemed more
concern with A
>> I'm going to be starting some new Python projects in Python 2.6, but am
>> concerned that at least three of the libraries I will be
>> using--pycrypto, paramiko and feedparser--are not currently supported in
>> Python 3.x. The authors of these programs have not given any indication
>> that work
David Cournapeau writes:
> So yes, you could say "just try and if it crashes, check that it is
> not ABI-related". In practice, this is very poor engineering in my
> book...
I just looked at PEP 384 and I don't see anything in it about version
numbers in the interfaces. I certainly think somethi
David Cournapeau, 28.01.2010 09:54:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>
>> That doesn't completely match my experience. It's true that there is no
>> guarantee that the ABI will stay compatible, but when you compile lxml
>> against Py2.4 on a 32bit machine, it will continue t
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>
> That doesn't completely match my experience. It's true that there is no
> guarantee that the ABI will stay compatible, but when you compile lxml
> against Py2.4 on a 32bit machine, it will continue to import in Py2.5 and
> (IIRC) Py2.6. It
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> It's important to note that this is mitigated, ironically enough, by
> intentionally targeting a minimum Python minor version because the code
> base makes use of Python features not available in older versions.
>
> That is, any minor version
David Cournapeau, 28.01.2010 06:58:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
>> For a windows user who depends on pre-built binaries, every new release
>> breaks *every* library that is not pure Python and needs to be compiled.
>
> That's not windows specific - most packages which
David Cournapeau writes:
> Unstable may be strong - every minor version of python has a lifespan
> of several years. But yes, that's an hindrance for packagers: you need
> to package binaries for every minor version of python
It's important to note that this is mitigated, ironically enough, by
i
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> David Cournapeau writes:
>> That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary
>> packages need to package binaries for every minor version (2.4, 2.5,
>> etc...)
>> I doubt that's what Paul was referring to, though - he see
David Cournapeau writes:
> That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary
> packages need to package binaries for every minor version (2.4, 2.5,
> etc...)
> I doubt that's what Paul was referring to, though - he seemed more
> concern with API/language changes than ABI issu
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> For a windows user who depends on pre-built binaries, every new release
> breaks *every* library that is not pure Python and needs to be compiled.
That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary
packages need to package
On 1/27/2010 2:03 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
[email protected] (Aahz) writes:
From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had
started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to
know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6.
I didn't re
Kevin Walzer wrote:
I'm going to be starting some new Python projects in Python 2.6, but am
concerned that at least three of the libraries I will be
using--pycrypto, paramiko and feedparser--are not currently supported in
Python 3.x. The authors of these programs have not given any indication
Kevin Walzer wrote:
> I'm going to be starting some new Python projects in Python 2.6, but
> am concerned that at least three of the libraries I will be
> using--pycrypto, paramiko and feedparser--are not currently supported
> in Python 3.x. The authors of these programs have not given any
> indica
On Jan 27, 2:03 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> [email protected] (Aahz) writes:
> > From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had
> > started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to
> > know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6.
>
>
On 07:03 pm, [email protected] wrote:
[email protected] (Aahz) writes:
From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had
started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to
know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6.
I didn't
[email protected] (Aahz) writes:
> From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had
> started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to
> know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6.
I didn't realize 2.6 broke libraries that had work
In article <[email protected]>,
Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
>I'm going to be starting some new Python projects in Python 2.6, but am
>concerned that at least three of the libraries I will be
>using--pycrypto, paramiko and feedparser--are not currently supported in
>Python 3.x. T
On Jul 7, 4:06 pm, Christian Heimes wrote:
> nn wrote:
> > I am trying to compile python with ssl support but the libraries are
> > not in /usr/lib but in /opt/freeware/lib. How do I add that folder to
> > the default library search path?
>
> > It looks like configure --libdir=DIR might do the job
nn wrote:
> I am trying to compile python with ssl support but the libraries are
> not in /usr/lib but in /opt/freeware/lib. How do I add that folder to
> the default library search path?
>
> It looks like configure --libdir=DIR might do the job but I don't want
> to replace the default lib search
Aldo Ceccarelli schrieb:
Hi All,
do you have any experience about any library tool suitable to burn
video DVDs from video (f.i. .avi) file formats?
In negative case and as an alternative: do you have any in other
programming languages?
see :
http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.ht
Il Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:47:09 +0100, Diez B. Roggisch ha scritto:
> mattia wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody, I'm looking for an easy way to put data in a form, then
>> click the button and follow the redirect. Also I need to use cookies. I
>> read that using perl this can be done using the UserAgent lib,
mattia wrote:
> Hi everybody, I'm looking for an easy way to put data in a form, then
> click the button and follow the redirect. Also I need to use cookies. I
> read that using perl this can be done using the UserAgent lib, that also
> provide th browser functionality to let the site believe that
Bernard Rankin wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking to build a simple mostly email-based trouble ticket system. (I've
yet to find a ready-made python solution that is both simple and well
designed)
Is there a Python email parsing library that can assist in extracting new
content from messages that
I think Drupy is best library for these task.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Dani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I want to create a website where new users need to be invited by an existing
> user in order to open an account. Think of it the way Orkut became popular.
>
> I need a library
On Apr 24, 12:22 pm, Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> pipe([prog1,args],[prog2,args],...)
> Any ideas on how I could design this?
There's a recipe on Activestate's Python Cookbook that does pretty
much this:
> Allows arbitrary number of commands to be strung together with
> each one fe
Wow, this message turned out to be *LONG*. And it also took a long time
to write. But I had fun with it, so ok. :-)
Michael Torrie wrote:
> Recently a post that mentioned a recipe that extended subprocess to
> allow killable processes caused me to do some thinking. Some of my
> larger bash script
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Raj kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi,
> how to open python api documetation in linux machine?
$ python
import
help(module|object|whatever)
> i think there should be a way to open installed library as a HTML pages.
>
pydoc -p
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> _
En Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:34:26 -0300, Frank Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
> I have a python library package 'Foo', which contains alot of submodules:
>
> Foo/:
> __init__.py
> module1.py:
> class Bar()
> class Hmm()
> module2.py
> cl
2007/11/5, Frank Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> To prevent namespace pollution, I want to import and use this library in the
> following way:
>
> import Foo
> (...)
> t = Foo.module2.Bee()
from x import y as z
that has always worked for me to prevent pollution...
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BlueCrux:
> I'm trying to write a utility to crawl forums and strip posts to be
> gone through offline. Just the content, I don't need to get who posted
> or sigs or any identifying info.
>
> Can anyone suggest a library that is already geared toward this?
Maybe a combination of mechanize [1] and
Well i know some that do half the job
urllib or urllib2 to download the page
htmlparser or beautifulsoup For html parsing
Enjoy
On 10/11/07, BlueCrux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to write a utility to crawl forums and strip posts to be
> gone through offline. Just the content, I don
On 2007-09-12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I canlaunch
>>> programin linux using python? Thank you in advance.
> can you please show me the sample code using subprocess library.
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-subprocess.ht
On Sep 7, 2:49 am, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007-09-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I canlaunch
> >programin linux using python? Thank you in advance.
>
> subprocess
>
> --
> Grant Edwards
On 2007-09-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Laszlo Nagy
> wrote:
>
>> Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> On 2007-09-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I can launch
program i
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Laszlo Nagy
wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On 2007-09-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I can launch
>>> program in linux using python?
>>>
>>
>> subprocess
>>
> Hmm, there are so
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2007-09-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I can launch
>> program in linux using python? Thank you in advance.
>>
>
> subprocess
>
Hmm, there are some others. Here is a list:
os.system
os.p
On 2007-09-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I can launch
> program in linux using python? Thank you in advance.
subprocess
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Grant Edwards grante Yow! Hello, GORRY-O!!
On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm a new user. What library should I use so that I can launch program
> in linux using python? Thank you in advance.
os.system or the commands library.
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On May 3, 1:31 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 3, 9:41 am, Trans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm taking a pole on how best to name programming library packages.
>
> Well, the Poles have been wrong before.
I don't know what's worse, my misspelling or your joke ;-)
On May 3, 9:41 am, Trans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm taking a pole on how best to name programming library packages.
Well, the Poles have been wrong before.
> If you have a second, please have a look.
>
> http://7ranscode.blogspot.com/2007/05/library-poll.html
>
> Thanks,
> T.
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On Mar 30, 1:26 am, stef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> is there a Python library for easy reading and writing windows ini-files ?
>
> thanks,
> Stef Mientki
Maybe check this out?
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/configobj.html
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Laurent Pointal wrote:
> stef a écrit :
>
>> hello,
>>
>> is there a Python library for easy reading and writing windows ini-files ?
>>
>
> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-ConfigParser.html
>
> A+
>
> Laurent.
>
thanks Laurent,
that seems to be what I was looking for.
cheers,
Stef
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stef schrieb:
> hello,
>
> is there a Python library for easy reading and writing windows ini-files ?
Isn't ConfigParser ini-style? I'm not totally sure though.
Diez
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stef a écrit :
> hello,
>
> is there a Python library for easy reading and writing windows ini-files ?
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-ConfigParser.html
A+
Laurent.
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[Richard Meraz]
> We need to capture more than 99 named groups using python regular
> expressions.
> ...
> its clear why the language designers have decided on this limitation. For
> our system, however, it is essential that we be able to capture an arbitrary
> number of groups.
>
> Could anyone o
Dear group members,We need to capture more than 99 named groups using python regular expressions. From the docs and from this thread (
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/a39a91b4bf8e3df4/2ad4a7e01b60215d?lnk=st&q=python+regular+_expression_+group+limit&rnum=3#2ad4
Tuvas wrote:
> How exactly do you do that? Just to get some kind of an idea, perhaps
> you could share bits of code? Thanks!
Did you check out the ctypes web site before asking? See
http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes/ and at least read
through the helpful tutorial before asking ques
How exactly do you do that? Just to get some kind of an idea, perhaps
you could share bits of code? Thanks!
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On 2005-10-10, Tuvas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am writing a program that mimics a program written in C, but using
> Python-supiorior techniques. The C program calles a library function,
> non-open source, I only know that it sends it a command
> LINUX_CAN_Open() as for a few others as well.
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Michele Petrazzo wrote:
>
>>I want to redistribute the library that I create.
>>I create a project, its setup.py that when launched copy all files into
>>the "site-packages/library" directory. And here it's all ok.
>>When I call my library with:
>>
>>import library
>>library
Michele Petrazzo wrote:
> I want to redistribute the library that I create.
> I create a project, its setup.py that when launched copy all files into
> the "site-packages/library" directory. And here it's all ok.
> When I call my library with:
>
> import library
> library.class()
>
> I want that my
Michele Petrazzo wrote:
> I want to redistribute the library that I create.
> I create a project, its setup.py that when launched copy all files into
> the "site-packages/library" directory. And here it's all ok.
> When I call my library with:
>
> import library
> library.class()
>
> I want that
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
.
.
>What are frameworks really good for - a very true success story.
>
>A colleague of mine used to spread all kinds of flags ( state- and
>property mar
Peter Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 8/16/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Well, they may have created a library class that does the job for
>> them. Figuring out which is which seemed to be the point of this
>> thread.
>
> I guess my summary of the thread was that a library
Simon Brunning schrieb:
> On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library
>>and a framework?
>
>
> If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
IOW Apache with modpython is a framework
Simon Brunning wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library
> > and a framework?
>
> If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
Pretty!
I don't think it is an oversimplific
On 8/16/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, they may have created a library class that does the job for
> them. Figuring out which is which seemed to be the point of this
> thread.
I guess my summary of the thread was that a library is built to do one
thing, while a framework is bui
Peter Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've written several apps that need to update a database, and each one
> had to do the same things: connect, grab data, create controls to
> display/edit that data, validate any changes and then stuff the edited
> data back into the database. I started pl
Terry Hancock wrote:
> Zope recently started going through some massive changes to make
> it more like a toolkit (which is the term I use instead of library here).
> Even if there must be a framework, a thin framework with good tools
> tends to be better than a complex framework, even if they can,
Rocco Moretti wrote:
> Cameron Laird wrote:
>
>> Andy Smith rails against "frameworks":
>>
>> http://an9.org/devdev/why_frameworks_suck?sxip-homesite=&checked=1
>
>
> Slapdash Summary: Libraries good, frameworks bad - they are a
> straightjackets and limit sharing.
>
> Which
On 8/16/05, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where a framework shines is when you don't really want to program
> it much at all -- you just need a tweak here and there beyond what
> it already does. Gimp plugins are a great example of that.
I'd put it slightly differently. Where a fram
On Tuesday 16 August 2005 08:46 am, Rocco Moretti wrote:
> But I'm not sure if library vs. framework a fair comparison - the two
> are doing different things. With a framework, you're not really writing
> your own program, you're customizing someone else's. Sort of a vastly
> more flexible versi
Simon Brunning wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Monday 15 August 2005 09:54 am, Simon Brunning wrote:
>>
>>>If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
>>
>>Such concision deserves applause. ;-)
>
>
> Thank you. ;-)
>
> As other
On 8/15/05, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 15 August 2005 09:54 am, Simon Brunning wrote:
> > If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
>
> Such concision deserves applause. ;-)
Thank you. ;-)
As others have pointed out, this is a *drastic*
Simon Brunning wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library
>>and a framework?
>
> If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
Trying to add my 2 cents (As I do not agree
On Monday 15 August 2005 09:54 am, Simon Brunning wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library
> > and a framework?
>
> If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
Such conc
Simon Brunning wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library
>>and a framework?
>
>
> If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
Erh, it's not quite that simple. I don't k
Simon Brunning wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Which lead me to the question - what's the difference between a library
>>and a framework?
>
>
> If you call its code, it's a library. If it calls yours, it's a framework.
Although that definition probably makes se
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