Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-06, Barry wrote: > > >> On 6 Feb 2021, at 08:06, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote: >> >>> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is >>> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability >>> is PyScripter

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Barry
> On 6 Feb 2021, at 08:06, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote: > >> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is >> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability >> is PyScripter. Completely free, downloadable from

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote: > Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is > quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability > is PyScripter. Completely free, downloadable from SourceForge, 32 > or 64 bit versions (must match your Python t

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/5/2021 3:34 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: While print() is groovy and all, if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) please let me know. There are many. But why must it be non-pdb? That seems rat

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread boB Stepp
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 01:27:34AM +, flaskee via Python-list wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 5:03 PM, Schachner, Joseph wrote: As regards the Alan pdb note; yes -- I was trying for a full IDE & integrated debugging, along the lines of Visual Studio, pre-sneaky-Telemetry API. You do k

RE: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread flaskee via Python-list
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, February 5, 2021 5:03 PM, Schachner, Joseph wrote: > capability is PyScripter. > Completely free, downloadable from SourceForge Thank you. I just wanted to add, that it is here as well: https://github.com/pyscripter https://github.com/pyscripter/pys

RE: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread Schachner, Joseph
; Commercially Sensitive Business Data -Original Message- From: Alan Gauld Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 3:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IDE tools to debug in Python? On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > While print() is groovy and all, > if an

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > While print() is groovy and all, > if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) > please let me know. > There are many. But why must it be non-pdb? That seems rather arbitrary. Or do you really mean you want a n

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-04 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 27/01/2021 19:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > While print() is groovy and all, > if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) > please let me know. > > I too was blessed with IDE-based debugging (in the 90's!) > * where you can set break point(s); > * have

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-28 Thread Skip Montanaro
> > > Python is an interactive language. You can develop a lot while working > > on a Python console. Then copy and paste into a program. > > Absolutely, the humble interactive prompt is often overlooked > as a development tool. It's not as good as the "evaluate > expression" tool in the Smalltalk

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 27/01/2021 19:27, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: > Python is an interactive language. You can develop a lot while working > on a Python console. Then copy and paste into a program. Absolutely, the humble interactive prompt is often overlooked as a development tool. It's not as good as the "eval

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread J. Pic
You're most welcome flaskee, however I would recommend you try them all. Thonny in particular because it distinguishes line from expression which I believe is a unique feature. Personally I have learned to love just pdb, and a whiteboard! Le mer. 27 janv. 2021 à 23:03, flaskee a écrit : > > Tha

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread flaskee via Python-list
Thank you J. Pic. Out of everything today, (and given my priority is Python/Flask debugging) it looks like Wing IDE is something to dig into. Thanks Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:09 PM, J. Pic wrote: > Thonny, winpdb/win

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread J. Pic
Thonny, winpdb/winpdb-rebord, eric4, pudb, web-pdb, vy, mu, netbeans, eclipse, pdbpp... Also see: https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDebuggingTools "Changing a variable" -> that's basically evaluating code ? -> supported in all debuggers I suppose -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Paul Bryan via Python-list
My experience with IntelliJ (related to PyCharm): it scans all source files in the project, compiles them, graphs all dependencies, compiles those (if necessary) or inspects their class bytecode, and so on to build a full graph in memory to support showing errors in real time (highlighting in sourc

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread C W
I meant bottom right corner, not left. opps! On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:36 PM C W wrote: > I don't know exactly, but it shows as inspection on the bottom left corner. > > I believe it's indexing in the background. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> On 2021-01-27, C W

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread C W
I don't know exactly, but it shows as inspection on the bottom left corner. I believe it's indexing in the background. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-01-27, C W wrote: > > I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python > > programming. >

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-27, C W wrote: > I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python > programming. > > I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the > background, even after I turned that feature off. What is it scanning? > My favorite (I'm using now

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread flaskee via Python-list
" also started background scanning, but that's generally done in 30 seconds." Do we know what PyCharm is background scanning for? Do we know what VS Code is scanning for? I've been leery of VS* things since 2013, when Microsoft (secretly) changed their VS compiler, so that every single .exe, .dl

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Dietmar Schwertberger
On 27.01.2021 20:07, C W wrote: I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python programming. I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the background, even after I turned that feature off. My favorite (I'm using now) is VS Code with Python e

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread C W
I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python programming. I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the background, even after I turned that feature off. My favorite (I'm using now) is VS Code with Python extension, it's very light. Recentl

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Michał Jaworski
PyCharm has all these debugging capabilities and there is a community edition that you can use for free. If you earn for the living with Python it is worth investing in professional edition though. Michał Jaworski > Wiadomość napisana przez flaskee via Python-list w > dniu 27.01.2021, o god

Re: Ide vs ide

2017-10-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > Rustom Mody writes: >>Useful python programs are often small; even tiny > > We must not forget that tiny programs are just large > problems with the size masterfully hidden. > > For example, the »print« of Python is actually implemented >

Re: Ide vs ide

2017-10-28 Thread Andrew Z
I like this trajectory of conversation. Can we re define "small tiny" as "scripts"? i can argue, based on my expirience with other languages, that there is no need for an "ide". The most ive ever needed is a text editor and a few plugins with "print". Moving to "average" size projects. What i fou

Re: Ide vs ide

2017-10-28 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 4:46:03 PM UTC+5:30, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 28.10.17 um 09:04 schrieb Rustom Mody: > > [The other day I was writing a program to split alternate lines of a file; > > Apart from file-handling it was these two lines: > > > > for x in lines[0::2]: pr

Re: Ide vs ide

2017-10-28 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 28.10.17 um 09:04 schrieb Rustom Mody: [The other day I was writing a program to split alternate lines of a file; Apart from file-handling it was these two lines: for x in lines[0::2]: print(x.strip()) for x in lines[1::2]: print(x.strip()) ] ...and using the best(TM) tool for

Re: Ide vs ide

2017-10-28 Thread Rustom Mody
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 11:59:14 AM UTC+5:30, Andrew Z wrote: > Yeah, lets start the war! > // joking! > > But if i think about it... there are tons articles and flame wars about "a > vs b". > And yet, what if the question should be different: > > If you were to create the "ide" for your

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-08-06 Thread Lawrence D’Oliveiro
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 6:36:45 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 08/04/2016 01:23 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion it’s a waste of time buying books >> on computing topics. They start to reek of decay while they’re still on >> the shelf. > > Except

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-08-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 08/04/2016 01:23 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:38:10 AM UTC+12, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:22 AM, sigmaphine1914 wrote: Beginning Python: using Python 2.6 and Python 3.1. By

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-08-04 Thread Michael Torrie
On 08/04/2016 01:23 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:38:10 AM UTC+12, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:22 AM, sigmaphine1914 wrote: >>> Beginning Python: using Python 2.6 and Python 3.1. By James Payne >>> >>> Part II. >> >> Ugh, that's extremely ol

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-08-04 Thread Lawrence D’Oliveiro
On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 2:38:10 AM UTC+12, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:22 AM, sigmaphine1914 wrote: >> Beginning Python: using Python 2.6 and Python 3.1. By James Payne >> >> Part II. > > Ugh, that's extremely old now. That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion it’s a wast

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:22 AM, wrote: > Beginning Python: using Python 2.6 and Python 3.1. By James Payne > > Part II. > > But I think that answered my question. Great because au was worried Ugh, that's extremely old now. The current versions of Python are 2.7 (first released in 2010, and get

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-07-21 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
[email protected] writes: > I'm learning Python and something is really unclear on the chapter im > on. > > So Python has its own IDE to write code but now it's talking about > "code editors" > > My confusion is so I need a code editor like Sublime text? Is that > what Python IDE is for? Y

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-07-21 Thread MRAB
On 2016-07-21 15:07, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:56 PM, wrote: I'm learning Python and something is really unclear on the chapter im on. So Python has its own IDE to write code but now it's talking about "code editors" My confusion is so I need a code editor like Sublim

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-07-21 Thread sigmaphine1914
Beginning Python: using Python 2.6 and Python 3.1. By James Payne Part II. But I think that answered my question. Great because au was worried -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Ide or code editor confusion

2016-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:56 PM, wrote: > I'm learning Python and something is really unclear on the chapter im on. > > So Python has its own IDE to write code but now it's talking about "code > editors" > > My confusion is so I need a code editor like Sublime text? Is that what > Python IDE i

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-03 Thread Joseph Martinot-Lagarde
Le 28/05/2014 13:31, Sameer Rathoud a écrit : I was searching for spyder, but didn't got any helpful installable. What problem did you encounter while trying to install spyder ? Spyder is oriented towards scientific applications, but can be used as a general python IDE. I use it for GUI devel

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 02/06/2014 11:43, Tim Golden wrote: On 02/06/2014 10:15, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"? Google Translate says: Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident. ChrisA Try: Perite d

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Tim Golden
On 02/06/2014 10:15, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >> What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"? > > Google Translate says: > > Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident. > > ChrisA > Try: Perite domestice unicodicis: vad

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Maier
Chris Angelico gmail.com> writes: > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"? > > Google Translate says: > > Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident. > > ChrisA > Oh, the joys of Google Tran

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > What is the Latin for "resident unicode expert go home"? Google Translate says: Eusebius, et revertatur in domum perito resident. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 02/06/2014 09:15, Tim Golden wrote: On 02/06/2014 08:28, Wolfgang Maier wrote: gmail.com> writes: Amen. Ite missa est. Oh, why all the lamenting about python's unicode support, when your latin is so superbe ! Elegant solution to all your problems :) After all, if you can't use Lati

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Tim Golden
On 02/06/2014 08:28, Wolfgang Maier wrote: > gmail.com> writes: > >> >> Amen. >> Ite missa est. >> > > Oh, why all the lamenting about python's unicode support, when your latin is > so superbe ! Elegant solution to all your problems :) After all, if you can't use Latin-1 for Latin, what can yo

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Maier
gmail.com> writes: > > Amen. > Ite missa est. > Oh, why all the lamenting about python's unicode support, when your latin is so superbe ! Elegant solution to all your problems :) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 30 mai 2014 16:04:18 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit : > On Friday, May 30, 2014 7:24:10 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > > > Rustom Mody wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. > > > > > > > > How do you do this with emacs? > > > > I fi

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 30 mai 2014 18:38:04 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit : > On 30/05/2014 17:15, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > It is now about time that we stop taking ASCII seriously!! > > > > > > > This can't happen in the

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 30 mai 2014 18:15:09 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit : > On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Out of curiosity. > > > Are you the Rusi Mody attempting to dive in Xe(La)TeX? > > > > Yeah :-) > > > > As my blog posts labelled unicode will in

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread wxjmfauth
Le mercredi 28 mai 2014 14:55:35 UTC+2, Chris Angelico a écrit : > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Greg Schroeder wrote: > > >> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > > > > > > Anything that writes text is fine. > > > I recommend the standard text editor for your

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 30 mai 2014 19:30:27 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit : > On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47:33 PM UTC+5:30, [email protected] wrote: > > > = > > > > > Ok, thanks for the answer. > > > > > "xetex does not quite work whereas pdflatex works smoothly" > > > > > ? > > > > Problem

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread wxjmfauth
Le dimanche 1 juin 2014 03:48:07 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit : > On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:37:00 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > > > You are talking about the infrastructure needed for writing unicode apps. > > > The language need not have non-ASCII lexemes for that > > > > > I am talk

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:31:09 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> the better solution is to permit the full Unicode alphabet in >> identifiers... > > I'm not entirely sure about that. Full Unicode support in identifiers > such as URLs doesn't c

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:31:09 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > the better solution is to permit the full Unicode alphabet in > identifiers... I'm not entirely sure about that. Full Unicode support in identifiers such as URLs doesn't create a brand new vulnerability, but it does increase it from a

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 2:01:09 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > > As a Finnish-speaker, I hope that patch doesn't become default behavior. > > Too many times, we have been victimized by the German conventions. A > > Finnish-speaker would

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > As a Finnish-speaker, I hope that patch doesn't become default behavior. > Too many times, we have been victimized by the German conventions. A > Finnish-speaker would much rather see > >Järvenpää => Jarvenpaa >Öllölä => Ollola >K

Re: IDE for python

2014-06-01 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Rustom Mody : > On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:37:00 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote: >> Think for example of a German wanting to write "Gödel" >> According to some conventions (s)he can write Goedel > > [...] > > | if there is an german Umlaut in the section title like 'ä' this > | becomes just 'a' in

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-31 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:37:00 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote: > You are talking about the infrastructure needed for writing unicode apps. > The language need not have non-ASCII lexemes for that > I am talking about something quite different. > Think for example of a German wanting to write "Gö

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-31 Thread Rhodri James
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:53:06 +0100, Rustom Mody wrote: On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:14:35 PM UTC+5:30, Paul Rudin wrote: Terry Reedy writes: > 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. Emacs. How do you do this with emacs? I find a menagerie of greppish commands -- rgrep, lgre

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47:33 PM UTC+5:30, [email protected] wrote: > = > Ok, thanks for the answer. > "xetex does not quite work whereas pdflatex works smoothly" > ? Problem is a combination of 1. I am a somewhat clueless noob 2. xetex is emerging technology therefore changing fast

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/05/2014 18:07, Rustom Mody wrote: On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:08:04 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/05/2014 17:15, Rustom Mody wrote: On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: It is now about time that we stop taking ASCII seriously!! This can't happen in the Pytho

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:08:04 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 30/05/2014 17:15, Rustom Mody wrote: > > On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: > > It is now about time that we stop taking ASCII seriously!! > This can't happen in the Python world until there is a sensible

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:07:21 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/30/2014 12:15 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > And for those who dont know xetex, its is really xɘtex – a pictorial > > anagram if written as XƎTEX > > I believe you mean 'pictorial palindrome', which it is! > Heh! Getting wooz

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/05/2014 17:15, Rustom Mody wrote: On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, [email protected] wrote: It is now about time that we stop taking ASCII seriously!! This can't happen in the Python world until there is a sensible approach to unicode. Ah, but wait a minute, the ball was s

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/30/2014 12:15 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: And for those who dont know xetex, its is really xɘtex – a pictorial anagram if written as XƎTEX I believe you mean 'pictorial palindrome', which it is! -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:36:54 PM UTC+5:30, [email protected] wrote: > Out of curiosity. > Are you the Rusi Mody attempting to dive in Xe(La)TeX? Yeah :-) As my blog posts labelled unicode will indicate I am a fan of using unicode in program source: http://blog.languager.org/search/label/Unicod

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/30/2014 9:54 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Rustom Mody : 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. How do you do this with emacs? I find a menagerie of greppish commands -- rgrep, lgrep, grep-find etc To grep for a pattern in the directory of the active buffer: M-x grep

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 7:24:10 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Rustom Mody wrote: > > > >> > 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. > > > > How do you do this with emacs? > > I find a menagerie of greppish commands -- rgrep, lgrep, grep-find etc > > > > To grep for a pattern

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Rustom Mody : >> > 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. > > How do you do this with emacs? > I find a menagerie of greppish commands -- rgrep, lgrep, grep-find etc To grep for a pattern in the directory of the active buffer: M-x grep Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e Compl

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:14:35 PM UTC+5:30, Paul Rudin wrote: > Terry Reedy writes: > > 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. > Emacs. How do you do this with emacs? I find a menagerie of greppish commands -- rgrep, lgrep, grep-find etc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread alister
On Thu, 29 May 2014 15:11:31 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote: > On 5/29/14 11:44 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: >> Terry Reedy writes: >>> I am curious how many of the editors people have been recommending >>> have all of the following Idle features, that I use constantly. >>> >>> 1. Run code in the editor wit

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Andrea D'Amore
On 2014-05-30 07:21:52 +, Andrea D'Amore said: It aims at providing a beautiful interface, Side note: the text editing is still green. -- Andrea -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-30 Thread Andrea D'Amore
On 2014-05-29 22:40:36 +, Travis Griggs said: I use either vim or textwrangler for simple one file scripts. Since you're on OS X have a look at Exedore, it's paid but very cheap. It aims at providing a beautiful interface, I fetched the free trial a couple days ago and the job so far is

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Travis Griggs
> On May 28, 2014, at 3:43, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I am new to python. > > I am currently using python 3.3 > > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > -- > https://mail.pyt

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Ben Finney
Terry Reedy writes: > I am curious how many of the editors people have been recommending > have all of the following Idle features, that I use constantly. You can satisfy such wonderings with a search for the answers to such questions, which is how I got these answers. > 1. Run [Python] code in

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/29/2014 12:51 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: I am curious how many of the editors people have been recommending have all of the following Idle features, that I use constantly. Regarding SciTE: 1. Run code in the editor with a single keypre

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 29/05/2014 21:11, Mark H Harris wrote: The OP is looking for an "IDE-like" interactive environment, because he is "uncomfortable" with IDLE. IDLE is THE choice, however ---precisely because IDLE is clean, elegant, and most importantly "simple". It is simple to understand, and it is even simpl

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Mark H Harris
On 5/29/14 11:44 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: Terry Reedy writes: I am curious how many of the editors people have been recommending have all of the following Idle features, that I use constantly. 1. Run code in the editor with a single keypress. 2. Display output and traceback in a window that lets

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > I am curious how many of the editors people have been recommending have all > of the following Idle features, that I use constantly. Regarding SciTE: > 1. Run code in the editor with a single keypress. Yes, although for most of what I like t

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Paul Rudin
Terry Reedy writes: > On 5/29/2014 5:41 AM, Wolfgang Maier wrote: >> On 28.05.2014 12:43, Sameer Rathoud wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I am new to python. >>> >>> I am currently using python 3.3 >>> >>> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > > What bothers you the

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/29/2014 5:41 AM, Wolfgang Maier wrote: On 28.05.2014 12:43, Sameer Rathoud wrote: Hello everyone, I am new to python. I am currently using python 3.3 With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. What bothers you the most. Seems like not too many other people on th

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Wolfgang Maier
On 28.05.2014 12:43, Sameer Rathoud wrote: Hello everyone, I am new to python. I am currently using python 3.3 With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. Seems like not too many other people on this list

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Duncan Booth
Duncan Booth wrote: > Sameer Rathoud wrote: > >> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote: >>> > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anything that writes text is fine. >>> >>> I recommend the standard text editor for

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Duncan Booth
Sameer Rathoud wrote: > On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote: >> > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. >> >> >> >> Anything that writes text is fine. >> >> I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use >> >>

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Rhodri James wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:04:55 +0100, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > >> My IDE is to have three GUI windows open: >> >> * A web browser for searching the Internet. Any browser will do, but I >> prefer Firefox. >> >> * A tabbed editor. I prefer kate

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Greg Schroeder
On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 22:55 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Greg Schroeder wrote: > >> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > > > > Anything that writes text is fine. > > I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you u

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Rhodri James
On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:04:55 +0100, Steven D'Aprano wrote: My IDE is to have three GUI windows open: * A web browser for searching the Internet. Any browser will do, but I prefer Firefox. * A tabbed editor. I prefer kate (KDE 3 version, not KDE 4), but geany is also good. At a pinch gedit w

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Ben Finney
Sameer Rathoud writes: > I am new to python. > I am currently using python 3.3 Welcome! You're off to a good start, using Python 3 :-) > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. What other programming lan

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:13:29 PM UTC+5:30, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > Hello everyone, > I am new to python. > I am currently using python 3.3 > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. Im not going to a

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Deb Wyatt
>> On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote: >> >>> Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. >> > But first time I am trying python. I was trying some UI with python. I > have installed wingide. But i didn't liked it because for licenses > messages even in trial v

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Ernest Bonat, Ph.D.
I believe in IDE with a complete project structure development and debugging tool. I have to time for a lot of typing. Mi option is Eclipse IDE with PyDev plugin. Thanks On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this.

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. There are a lot of IDEs for Python. One classic is WingIDE. Available for free is a "101" edition. Runs on all major operating systems. Implemented itself in Pyt

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 28/05/2014 14:01, Sameer Rathoud wrote: I've had to snip umpteen lines that gg has added so *please* use the mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing double line spacing and

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Mark H Harris
On 5/28/14 5:43 AM, Sameer Rathoud wrote: I am currently using python 3.3 With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. I tend to agree with Chris & Steven on this... a good gnu/linux desktop is the best IDE (d

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread William Ray Wing
On May 28, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am new to python. > > I am currently using python 3.3 > > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > -- > https://mail.python

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Sameer Rathoud
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:05:08 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 28/05/2014 12:31, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:21:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby > > wrote: > > >> On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > > >> > > >>> Please suggest, if we h

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 28 May 2014 03:43:29 -0700, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am new to python. > > I am currently using python 3.3 > > With python I got IDLE, but I am not very comfortable with this. > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. What operating syste

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Sameer Rathoud
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:26:46 PM UTC+5:30, Sameer Rathoud wrote: > On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote: > > > > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything that writes text is fine. > > > > > > I

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Sameer Rathoud
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:16:41 PM UTC+5:30, Greg Schroeder wrote: > > > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > > > > Anything that writes text is fine. > > I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use > > Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Greg Schroeder wrote: >> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. > > Anything that writes text is fine. > I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use > Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Greg Schroeder
> > Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. Anything that writes text is fine. I recommend the standard text editor for your OS (Notepad if you use Windows, Textedit on Mac, whatever is on your GNU/Linux distro by default) unless you know exactly what you don't like about

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 28/05/2014 12:31, Sameer Rathoud wrote: On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:21:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 05/28/2014 01:43 PM, Sameer Rathoud wrote: Please suggest, if we have any free ide for python development. I think major IDEs in the place have their Python integrat

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