I'm happy to report that Robin Dunn, the developer of wxPython, showed
me how to solve my VPython architectural problem, using wxPython. I
attach a test program based on wxPython that has all of the properties
I was looking for (though it needs some minor cleanups, including
quitting gracefully, an
Bruce Sherwood writes:
> ...
> There's nothing wrong with the current VPython architecture, which
> does use good style, but there are two absolute, conflicting
> requirements that I have to meet.
>
> (1) The simple program API I've shown must be preserved, because there
> exist a large number of
Thanks much for the useful suggestion, and also thanks for your
sympathy and understanding of my plight!
Bruce Sherwood
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Bruce Sherwood
> wrote:
>> (2) My hand is forced by Apple no longer supporting Car
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Bruce Sherwood
wrote:
> (2) My hand is forced by Apple no longer supporting Carbon. Among
> other aspects of this, Carbon can't be used with 64-bit Python, and
> more and more Mac users of VPython want to use 64-bit Python. So there
> has to be a version of VPython
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:04:25 -0600, Bruce Sherwood
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> Another way of saying this is that I'm not building an app, in which
>> case I would structure things in a simple and str
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:10:05 -0600, Bruce Sherwood
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> Thanks, but the problem I need to solve does not permit putting a
>> function like runner in the main program. I'm constr
Bruce Sherwood writes:
> ...
> The failure of this test case suggests that one cannot do imports
> inside secondary threads started in imported modules, something I keep
> tripping over. But I hope you'll be able to tell me that I'm doing
> something wrong!
As you know multiple threads can be dan
Bruce Sherwood writes:
> Thanks much for this suggestion. I'm not sure I've correctly
> understood the operation "start_new_thread(lambda: __import__( module>), ())". By "your module" do you mean the user program which
> imported the module that will execute start_new_thread?
By "your_module", I
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:11:30 -0600, Bruce Sherwood
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>>
>> ---
>> testABA.py -- execute this file
>>
>> from ABA import *
>> print('exec testABA')
>> fro
On 07/21/2012 05:35 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
>>
>> For docs on the threading thing, see:
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html
>>
>> " ... an import should not have the side effect of spawning a new thread
>> and then waiting for
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 07/21/2012 04:36 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
>> Thanks much for this clear statement. I hadn't managed to find any
>> documentation on this specific issue.
>>
>> Bruce Sherwood
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
>>> Two
On 07/21/2012 04:36 PM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
> Thanks much for this clear statement. I hadn't managed to find any
> documentation on this specific issue.
>
> Bruce Sherwood
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
>> Two of the things you mustn't do during an import:
>>
>> 1) start
Thanks much for this clear statement. I hadn't managed to find any
documentation on this specific issue.
Bruce Sherwood
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> Two of the things you mustn't do during an import:
>
> 1) start or end any threads
> 2) import something that's already in
On 07/21/2012 10:54 AM, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
> Thanks much for this suggestion. I'm not sure I've correctly
> understood the operation "start_new_thread(lambda: __import__( module>), ())". By "your module" do you mean the user program which
> imported the module that will execute start_new_thread?
I couldn't get a simple test case to work. I append a listing of the
little test files, all in the same folder. The diagnostic statement
print('after start_new_thread\n') works, but then nothing. Originally
I tried importing testABA.py but was worried that the circular
importing (A imports B which
Thanks much for this suggestion. I'm not sure I've correctly
understood the operation "start_new_thread(lambda: __import__(), ())". By "your module" do you mean the user program which
imported the module that will execute start_new_thread? It hadn't
occurred to me to have A import B and B import A,
Bruce Sherwood writes:
> ...
> from visual import box, rate
> b = box()
> while True:
> rate(100) # no more than 100 iterations per second
> b.pos.x += .01
>
> This works because a GUI environment is invoked by the visual module
> in a secondary thread (written mainly in C++, connected to
Dieter Maurer commented the following on my question about a thread
import problem:
--
In a recent discussion in this list someone mentioned that
on module import, you should not start a thread. The reason: apparently,
Python uses some kind of locking during import which can in
Bruce Sherwood writes:
> I'm trying to do something rather tricky, in which a program imports a
> module that starts a thread that exec's a (possibly altered) copy of
> the source in the original program, and the module doesn't return.
> This has to do with an attempt to run VPython in the Mac Co
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