Benjamin> The main objection is that GMP is licensed under LGPL which I
Benjamin> believe conflicts with Python's very open license.
If GMP itself isn't included with Python how can there be a licensing issue?
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I think you missed an implied comma in my statement. I meant:
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is sitting somewhere in a repository can I find it on my own somehow?
* Will a DVCS allow simpler operation as if we are still using a
centralized system like CVS or Subversion?
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Terry> on pypi.
I think the best place to reference it would be in the 2.6/3.0 module
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Sidnei> I haven't seen anyone mention it on this list, and there was one
Sidnei> message on distutils-sig but it seems to have gone ignored [1].
I've passed your note along to the website maintainers.
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I just ran "svn up" in my 2.6 sandbox and got this warning about the
configure script:
svn: File 'configure' has inconsistent newlines
svn: Inconsistent line ending style
I don't see any newlines other than just LF. Is some property
file hosed?
I should point out that it is 'M'odified in my sandbox, but I just ran
autoconf (v2.63) to recreate it from a modified configure.in.
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minor numbers imply any known minor version (e.g., 2 ==> 2.3 and greater)?
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check it in on all three branches and run svnmerge block to keep it from
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and add a comment if you feel so moved.
This grew out of a change to adapt to new gdbm library organization:
http://bugs.python.org/issue4487
Unbeknownst to me, I apparently wound up fixing a previously reported issue
about the change:
ystack
command. It will work with core files as well as running processes and
should give you a very good idea where your Python code was executing when
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ill use gdb because gdb catchs the
Victor> signal before the program.
Again, I meant no disrespect to your proposal. I was *simply trying to help
the guy out*.
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3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 134.041/134.945/135.441/0.640 ms
$ telnet svn.python.org 80
Trying 82.94.164.164...
Connected to svn.python.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
^]
telnet> quit
isabled with -4 option to
Alexander> curl:
...
But I have no problem on my laptop which is sitting right next to the G5
which is having problems. Both show an IPv6 address for svn.python.org.
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Martin> further discussion of Python 3.x takes place on
Martin> python-...@python.org.
Maybe set up a simple email alias reflecting python-3000 to python-d
details of the modules the app uses
(perhaps indirectly) to know whether or not it's safe/wise to call
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Leif> In that case, the question would be "why is the interpreter
Leif> collecting garbage when it knows we're trying to exit anyway?".
Because useful side effects are sometimes performed as a result of this
activity (flushing disk buffers, closing database con
ly two routines which appear to set it.
Did this not happen with 2.5.2?
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+self.assertRaises(IOError, self.f.read)
class OtherFileTests(unittest.TestCase):
which segfaults (on Solaris 10 at least) when run with the 2.5.3 released
code and which passes after I undo r67740.
Should we add this to the active bran
really have to do the same task four times or can I check it in once (or
twice) secure in the belief that someone will come along and do a monster
merge?
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Benjamin> 2.6, 3.1, and 3.0.
Outstanding!
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three
Martin> times, namely:
...
Thanks for that cheat sheet. I never would have figured that out on my
own. Well, at least not in a timely fashion.
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s. After
the reversion I then forgot about it.
I just stumbled upon it again. It seems to me this would have been a good
thing to fix in 3.0. Is this something which could change in 3.1 (or be
deprecated in 3.1 with deletion in 3.2)?
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skip> I just stumbled upon it again. It seems to me this would have
skip> been a good thing to fix in 3.0. Is this something which could
skip> change in 3.1 (or be deprecated in 3.1 with deletion in 3.2)?
Hmmm... I didn't really mean "deletion". I meant,
nding on where the common prefix ends).
You could I suppose though that would just be adding another hack on top of
existing questionable behavior. I wasn't so concerned with implementation
as whether or not a change to the semantics of the function was possible.
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skip> I just stumbled upon it again. It seems to me this would have
skip> been a good thing to fix in 3.0. Is this something which could
skip> change in 3.1 (or be deprecated in 3.1 with deletion in 3.2)?
This new issue in the tracker:
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s?) then could we make a
2to3 fixer for this?
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rary inputs.
See <http://bugs.python.org/issue4755> for what I think is a function with
more predictable behavior given that we are discussing paths and not just
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>>>>> "skip" == skip writes:
Martin> I don't think any change is necessary. os.path.commonprefix
Martin> works just fine on path components:
skip> Ummm...
>>> os.path.commonprefix(["/export/home", "/etc/passwd&qu
pointed out, Python lacks a reliable split function for
filesystem paths. The patch implements different versions for Windows and
other platforms because Python supports two separators on that platform.
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n't have any idea if there is even an /etc/passwd
file on Windows. I'd guess not, but that's not the point. The point is
that you can use both / (aka ntpath.sep) and \ (aka ntpath.altsep) in
Windows pathnames. See my patch (issue 4
Paul demonstrates the shortcoming of commonprefix:
>>> os.path.commonprefix(["foo\\bar\\baz", "foo/bar/boink"])
'foo'
With the patch in issue4755:
>>> import ntpath
>>> ntpath.commonpathprefix(["foo
peration, you get
Phillip> an endless series of gotchas... none of which are currently
Phillip> documented.
Well, then we can document (some of?) the gotchas* and work on a better
implementation of commonpathprefix. I don't do Windows. You're lucky I got
as far as I did with the
if os.path.commonprefix([basedir, somepath]) != basedir:
...
which leads me to believe that other people using the current function in
the real world would be confused by your interpretation.
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As far as I can tell you can't give any arguments to --without-gcc.
All values I tried yielded errors:
% ../configure --prefix=$HOME/tmp/icc-python --without-gcc=yes
configure: error: invalid package name: gcc=yes
% ../configure --prefix=$HOME/tmp/icc-python --without-gcc=icc
con
, set the CC environment
Martin> variable, and don't pass the --without-gcc flag.
Hmmm, OK... Why do we need two ways to spell "don't use gcc"?
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for use with icc on a Mac?
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#3381 fix framework builds on 10.4
Maybe it should be
if test ${cur_target} '>' 10.2 -a ${cur_target} '<' 10.5 ; then
cur_target=10.3
fi
I'll open a ticket.
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Since print is now a builtin function why is there still a PRINT_EXPR
opcode?
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print(repr(expr))
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A svn annotate suggests that much of the fun in this code began with a
checkin by Jeremy Hylton (r19260). It references an old SF patch (102989)
but I can't locate that in the current issue tracker to read the
discussion. Is there some way I can ret
> I don't see anyplace obvious where a value resembling a jump offset or
> jump target was pushed onto the stack.
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ests to pass (the OP's
Raymond> comments indicate that very few customizations are necessary).
+1. I would argue that Haiku OS is probably no more of a minority platform
at this point than OS2/EMX, which continues to be supported, at least at the
level if patches being app
commands generated to compile and link the C code:
gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O3 -Wall \
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -DPy_BUILD_CORE -DNDEBUG \
-I/Users/skip/src/python/py3k-t/Include \
-I/Users/skip/src/python/py3k-t -c dTd5cl.c \
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hen check your diagnostic changes in on a
branch meant just for that purpose. Once you're done with your changes you
could simply delete the branch.
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I see output like this in several tests on my Mac:
test_array skipped --
dlopen(/Users/skip/src/python/trunk/build/lib.macosx-10.3-i386-2.7/cPickle.so,
2): Symbol not found: __PyObject_NextNotImplemented
Referenced from:
/Users/skip/src/python/trunk/build/lib.macosx-10.3-i386-2.7
python2.7.dylib held the symbol in question the *installed* version of
libpython2.7.dylib didn't have the symbol:
% nm python.exe | grep PyObject_NextNotImplemented
% nm libpython2.7.dylib | egrep PyObject_NextNotImplemented
00054200 T __PyObject_NextNotImplemented
% nm /Use
Thanks for this. This appears to be exactly what's gone wrong with the OS/X
community buildbot I run. I'll try to plop your solution in place when I
get home and see how it works after that.
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ms to only use variable
expansion on the RHS of stuff. Can I do something like
if @WITH_DTRACE_SUN@ = 1
then
... Sun-style dependencies here ...
else
... Apple-style dependencies here ...
fi
where WITH_DTRACE_SUN is a macro defined in pyconfig.h by the configure
script?
Tha
Martin> Monterey was cancelled in 2000, although parts of it were
Martin> integrated into AIX 5L.
Thanks...
http://bugs.python.org/issue4111
It doesn't appear it's mentioned anywhere other than in the configure
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de these?
I'll work on it and get back to you if I get completely stuck. I think I've
figured a way out of my current dilemma, but a little experimentation will
be required to see if I'm correct.
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under the influence of a given default value should stick that value in the
dictionary or not.
down-with-more-builtins-ly, y'rs,
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should the default value come into play.
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__doc__, etc) should be available, probably in a decorators module. Beyond
that I'm not sure. I think it would be better to be conservative.
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talin> ... whereas with 'given' you can't be certain when to stop
talin> parsing the argument list.
So require parens around the arglist:
(x*y given (x, y))
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Neal> IMO compiler warnings should generate emails from buildbot.
It doesn't generate emails for any other condition. I think it should just
turn the compilation section yellow.
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Ronald> How many of those do you see when you ignore the warnings you
Ronald> get while building the Carbon extensions?
skip> I see a bunch related to Py_ssize_t. Those have nothing to do
skip> with Carbon. I don't see them on the gentoo build, so I assume
t be a major undertaking. If we can
recruit a suitable number of boxes I see no particular reason you can't
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Objects/unicodeobject.c: In function `unicode_translate_call_errorhandler':
Objects/unicodeobject.c:3374: warning: signed size_t format, int arg (arg 3)
...
This from the build on g5 osx.3 trunk from 22:54 today (21 Feb).
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Sergey> Historical question ;)
Sergey> Anyone can explain why function timegm is placed into module
Sergey> calendar, not to module time, where it would be near with
Sergey> similar function mktime?
Historical acciden
Christos> This isn't feasible, though, so in case we add more Linux
Christos> machines, at least make sure that the libc/gcc combo is not
Christos> one already used in the existing ones.
Maybe include libc/gcc versions in the name or desc
ere. I
propose rewriting the necessary bits to att a stream= keyword argument where
necessary and using stream.write(...) or print >> stream, ... instead of the
current bare print. I'd prefer the default for the stream be sys.stderr as
well.
Thoughts?
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Georg> Probably related:
Georg> http://python.org/sf/1235266
Don't think so. That was just a documentation nit (and is now fixed and
closed at any rate).
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It is currently impossible to separate profile output from the program's
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module invoked separately prints the output.
Sure, but then it's not "simple". Your original example was "... > file".
I'd like it to be (nearly) as easy to do it right yet keep it simple.
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Someone here (Martin, MAL, /F?) would probably be able to write a short,
authoritative description of Python's Unicode powers. Any takers?
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skip> I upgraded my PowerMac G5 to OSX 10.4. ZopeInterface isn't
skip> recompiling after the upgrade to XCode 2.1.
Okay, my buildbot slave is back online. Still, feel free to kick it out if
you think it's not worth it to continue r
value, e.g:
try:
foo()
except TypeError with msg, KeyError with msg:
print msg
Not very Pythonic methinks.
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Skip> foo()
Skip> except TypeError with msg, KeyError with msg:
Skip> print msg
fuzz> Wasn't the proposal :
fuzz> try:
fuzz> something
fuzz> except NameError, OtherError as e:
fuzz> something...
I&
xts wherever possible.
There seem to be other places where Python is beginning to require parens
even though they aren't strictly necessary to resolve syntactic ambiguity.
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Skip> There seem to be other places where Python is beginning to require
Skip> parens even though they aren't strictly necessary to resolve
Skip> syntactic ambiguity.
Guido> In the style guide only, I hope.
Alex> Technically, I believe the first plac
broke for Guido it broke for everybody. While we
consider him to be the BDFL I suspect the accolades are lost on the SF
folks.
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as easy to "easy_install pysqlite" after the fact, or
Phillip> get it from the appropriate packager (RPM, Debian, whatever).
Is it not possible to distribute an empty db package which is then populated
with various database eggs (or other similar installation things)?
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the multiple reader/single writer limitation and they tried to cram too much
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mechanisms and have them appear
seamlessly to the Python programmer. Then I begin to wonder why bother with
db.sqlite at all. Why not just create an empty db package that does the
pkgutil or pkg_resources dance and let people install all N database
interf
organization that
Brett> has been discussed for eons.
I think this belongs on the py3k list. Stdlib reorganization should be done
with Py3k in mind, then backported to 2.x if deemed worthwhile and doable.
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adding any package hierarchy(ies). Just toss it in as the sqlite module (no
packaging) and be done with it. Don't start carving up the package
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Greg> There's a big difference between "db" and "em": "db" is an
Greg> extremely well-known abbreviation, whereas "em" isn't.
Unless you're a typesetter or a TeX hound... :-)
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Martin> Nobody has stepped forward and said "I make trac happen".
Hasn't trac already happened in the sense that it's installed (by Tim Parkin
on the Pollenation website) and in use by the website maintainers? Seems
the only major hurdle is the extraction of
is
Terry> intentional on the part of the mail list maintainers? (I
Terry> certainly hope not!) Or is it a repairable glitch somewhere
Terry> between the list and gmane?
Gmane is subscribed. I've sent a message to them. Hopefully they will get
th
ngs_tw failure looks like this:
File
"/Users/skip/src/python-svn/trunk/Lib/test/test_multibytecodec_support.py",
line 88, in test_customreplace_encode
"test.xmlcharnamereplace")[0], sout)
File
"/Users/skip/src/python-svn/trunk/Lib/test/test_multibytecodec_support
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