On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 11:03 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Georg Brandl wrote:
> > On 06/07/11 05:20, brett.cannon wrote:
> >> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/fc282e375703
> >> changeset: 70695:fc282e375703
> >> user:Brett Cannon
> >> date:Mon Jun 06 20:20:36 2011 -0700
> >> summ
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 15:37 -0500, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> If no one is using it, I'd like to delete it. I also don't think we
> should be in business of distributing distribution specific files.
FWIW, Fedora and RHEL don't use this particular .spec file; we roll our
own.
I can't speak for all
I've been receiving 503 errors from the buildbot web status pages
beneath www.python.org/dev/buildbot for a day or two now - is there
perhaps something that needs a bit of a kick-start?
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Has anyone tried PyGEGL, the Python interface to gegl (www.gegl.org),
with SVN Python?
When I 'import gegl', that causes an immediate crash with the
following backtrace.
babl-db.c:100 babl_db_insert()
Ek
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[Threa
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> "David Gowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anyone tried PyGEGL, the Python interface to gegl (www.gegl.org),
> > with SVN Python?
> > When I 'import gegl', that causes an immed
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> On 7/12/07, Daniel Stutzbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > 20 lines of C code to add a -z flag that calls a 3-lin
amp; 12, my address is encoded as
"goodger at python.org" (the "@" is changed to " at " and
further obfuscated from there). More tricks could be played, but that
would only decrease the usefulness of addresses for legitimate
purposes.
Spam is a fact of life. People ju
ehavior under Windows.
Anyway, if it would be useful, I figured I could use this virtual machine
for a buildbot for at least trunk and 3k, perhaps with 2.5 too. Not sure if
that requires multiple accounts, or if you configure each buildbot instance
with an SVN path (I didn't see anywhere
a harder time
forcing it by just running test_bsddb3 on FreeBSD, for example, while I
get the dialog consistently on Windows.
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_? Although that would affect
GC and thus destruction order too).
This test has been around a bit, but the pruning of the directory was
backported recently, which is probably the source of the problems.
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re that the test is enforcing anything at this
point, or at least I'm not sure how to be absolutely positive that the
change will continue to enforce what the existing code used to test.
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> But I can open a ticket with the proposed changes if that would help.
Figure it can't hurt - I've created issue 1112 with the proposed patch
to the test_1413192.py module.
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(and required system libraries) to build properly under Windows, as
you've already highlighted, but that should be relatively easy to vary
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e is no OpenSSL to "find"
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you can use).
In other words, both the standard and your extension module on Windows
bring along their own OpenSSL.
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> > really isn't an OpenSSL "installed" on the end user's machin
7;t get the
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Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Bolen schrieb:
>> Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
(...)
>> For the moment I'm probably going to work to ensure we don't get the
>> pop-up box (which blocks the rest of the processing) so at leas
whatever command is requested.
We had a bit of discussion about this recently on the py3k devel list,
in regards to failures in the python buildbot tests, in regards to
more local changes within Python itself.
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to make builds upon request, I
presume, depending on the master configuration. I know Martin set the
current scheme up.
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I'm working on #2171 -- putting map, filter, zip in 2.6's
future_builtins.
It has been suggested that it would be simplest to just return
itertools.(imap, izip, ifilter), which is what py3k/Python/
bltinmodule.c, revision 61356 did.
The advantage of this is that it's really easy and the behav
On 18-Mar-08, at 5:10 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM, David Wolever
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> type(map(lambda x: x, [1, 2, 3])) # Python 2.6, with the patch
>>
>>>>> type(map(lambda x: x, [1, 2, 3])) ==
On 18-Mar-08, at 6:01 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
Couldn't you just import imap as map?
What do you mean? Import imap as map in future_builtins.c?
Like the Python:
import itertools
map = intertools.map
type(map(lambda x: x, range(3))) == map # True
Ah, that's a much better idea :P
I'll do t
At the moment, fixers are run in alphabetical order -- but this poses
a problem, because some depend on others (for example, fix_print will
need to be run _before_ fix_future, because fix_print looks for the
'from __future__ import ...' statement.
I'm tempted to simply change fix_future to f
On 19-Mar-08, at 2:18 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
So, any better suggestions?
I would create a list of fixers that need to go first in
refactor.py and run those in order. If you wanted to get complex,
you could add a requires member to fixes, but that is probably
overkill.
Ok, so I was dig
At the moment, fix_print.py does the Right Thing when it finds ``from
__future__ import print_function``... But the 2to3 parser gets upset
when print() is passed kwargs:
$ cat x.py
from __future__ import print_function
print("Hello, world!", end=' ')
$ 2to3 x.py
...
RefactoringTool: Can't parse
Would anyone be averse to changing pytree.Node's __repr__ so it
includes the name of the name of the symbol the node represents?
The only downside is that it makes the __reprs__ longer... But I
think its worth the length:
Node(313:simple_stmt, [Node(298:import_name, [Leaf(1, 'import'), Node
On 19-Mar-08, at 6:44 PM, Collin Winter wrote:
> You can pass -p to refactor.py to fix this on a per-run basis. See
> r58002 (and the revisions it mentions) for a failed attempt to do this
> automatically.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the relevant code is this:
-try:
-
On 20-Mar-08, at 2:15 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:27 PM, David Wolever
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why not, instead of trying both parsers, scan for a __future__
>> import, then do the Right Thing based on that?
> Different use cases
0.
I have attached the hacky, ugly, proof-of-concept patch to http://
bugs.python.org/issue2431
If there's no reason not to implement this sort of thing, I'll clean
it up and commit it when I get home (or something).
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as typically cleaned it up and let the builds proceed.
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On 06/04/2008, at 2:15 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> a) how does the binary get into the release tarball? You might argue
>that it doesn't have to, as it is sufficient when it is included in
>the Windows installer, however, as currently implemented,
>bdist_wininst also runs on Unix, and
On 16-Apr-08, at 9:37 AM, Isaac Morland wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>>>
>>>
>>> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most
>>> buil
Is there some sort of text encoding detection module is the standard
library?
And, if not, is there any reason not to add one?
After some googling, I've come across this:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2006-September/003537.html
But I can't find any changes that resulted from that
On 21-Apr-08, at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> David> Is there some sort of text encoding detection module is the
> David> standard library? And, if not, is there any reason not
> to add
> David> one?
> No, there's not. I suspect t
On 21-Apr-08, at 5:31 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
This is useful when you get a hunk of data which _should_ be some
sort of intelligible text from the Big Scary Internet (say, a posted
web form or email message), and you want to do something useful with
it (say, search the content).
I don't think
On 22-Apr-08, at 12:30 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
IMO, encoding estimation is something that many web programs will
have
to deal with
Can you please explain why that is? Web programs should not normally
have the need to detect the encoding; instead, it should be specified
always - unless you a
2008/4/29 "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Same here. In fact, is there a good reason to have mkstemp() return the
> > fd (except backward compatibility)?
>
> Except for backwards compatibility: is there a good reason to keep
> os.mkstemp at all?
Greg Ewing's use-case is one I've also
Python itself doesn't appear to follow that principle:
>>> "Ain't nothin' stoppin' this from usin' \"double quotes\"."
'Ain\'t nothin\' stoppin\' this from usin\' "double quotes".'
IMHO it's a useful rule of thumb, but like most of the other alternatives
presented in this thread, taken to extremes
On 14-Jun-08, at 8:39 PM, Armin Ronacher wrote:
...
I noticed lately that quite a few projects are implementing their own
subclasses of `dict` that retain the order of the key/value pairs.
...
I'm +1 on this one too, as there are at least a couple of times in
recent memory when I would have fou
at this
is revision 53170).
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On 27-Jun-08, at 6:23 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Guido van Rossum
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sounds like a regression in 2.5 (and in 2.6, and in 3.0). Probably
due
to the switch to the new AST-based compiler. Can you file a bug? I
think we should leave 2.5
a process can't start, or
something...
I'll ask Jeff Rush (whose machine it's on) and Doug Napoleone (who
knows more about the server than I, and has admin access) to look into
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>> (sorry for the crossposting)
>>
>> Do you know what happened with "http://us.pycon.org/";?
>
% foolproof, as I seem to recall once or twice still
having to clear a dialog, but I think that was from the CRT within
Python itself, which there was an old discussion about changing the
Python code to initialize differently. It definitely catches the
Windows hard failures though.
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On Sep 4, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Oleg wrote:
Durus (and ZODB) has an index of all objects, the index is stored in
memory AFAIK - a real problem if one has millions of objects.
Durus now has an option to store the index
Google search just turned up a
bunch of mailing list posts looking for team members.
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way of achieving the same
> result?
List comprehension.
[i.do_something() for i in items if i.some_field == some_value]
With the restriction that the statement you use must seem to return an
expression..
For example
[print(i) for i in range(9) if i % 2]
Fails with SyntaxError, whereas
def f
s 209ms -11.0%
---
Totals: 7682ms 10935ms -29.8% 8468ms 12832ms -34.0%
(this=2008-10-22 20:45:22, other=/tmp/vanilla252.pybench)
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eable. And if not the no harm/no foul the experimental branches
could be abandoned and little core developer time would be wasted.
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I wrote a patch to Tom Lee's AST optimization branch, which I have
submitted at http://bugs.python.org/issue4264. Here's a brief
explanation of what the patch does, followed by a little general
discussion of the future.
Python bytecode includes at least one operation which is not directly
accessi
ch to
branch; bzr has the shelve command to do as git stash. You can also
use loom, but I never used them extensively (loom are a plugin
extension of bzr, and not well documented; I could not understand it,
at least, although I did not try too hard)
erence being that in the second case, the formatting is done
in floatformat.c (in stringobject.c), whereas in the first case, it is
done in format_float (in floatobject.c). Shouldn't both functions be
calling the same underlying implementation, to avoi
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> David Cournapeau wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In python 2.6, there have been some effort to make float formatting
>> more consistent between platforms, which is nice. Unfortunately, there
>> is still
xternal functions in .c file instead of including an appropriate
> header. In most cases keeping in mind compliance with C++ leads to
> better design, not to uglier code.
Can't those errors be found simply using appropriate warning flags in
the C compiler ? C has st
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
> David Cournapeau schrieb:
>> Can't those errors be found simply using appropriate warning flags in
>> the C compiler ? C has stopped being a subset of C++ a long time ago
>
> Python's C code still follow
le the source with both a C and C++ compiler.
Otherwise, it is redundant at best (it was useful when malloc was
defined as returning char*, and C did not allow for automatic void* to
other pointer cast).
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for projects I have
write access to. git-svn is then a powerful way to manage patches
(thanks to rebase).
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s so simple (took me ~ 1 hour to get around
without any previous encounter with git and I am no genius) and useful
that it is my method of choice to commit to projects I am developing
for and which use svn.
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e solution that the op can
implement all by himself to make his life easier - or not.
> IOW, I find the learning curve for git extremely steep.
But a steep learning curve means that little input gives great output, no ? :)
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rd compatible, yes, in
the sense that you can often manage to get out of the situation, but
with some extra work. I would consider myself a relatively
knowledgeable bzr user (I have been using it for more than 2 years now
for almost all my projects, before switching to git), and I had
several times some problems with it. The ML occasionally also have
quite a few people having problems.
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quite well, actually. You need mingw, though, of course - Visual
Studio is far from being usable on wine.
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM, David Cournapeau wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Simon Cross
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>>> wrote:
g git pain
on other users, merging between branches is not really doable without
going back to svn. And that's certainly a big plus of DVCS compared to
svn: since svn is inherently incapable of tracking merge (at least
until recently, I have no experience with 1.5), you can't use svn
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> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:31:47 +0600
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> Probably I want to re-invent a bicycle. I want developers to say me
> why we
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM, David Beazley wrote:
>> You're forgetting step 5.
>>
>> 5. Put fine-grain locks around all reference counting operations (or rewrite
>> all of Python's memory managemen
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> I wonder if for
> this particular purpose SWIG isn't the better match. (If SWIG weren't
> universally hated, even by its original author. :-)
Hate is probably a strong word, but as the author of Swig, let me chime in here
;-). I thin
there is a broad
agreement that most of code which would requires C/C++ should be done
in cython instead (numpy and scipy already do so a bit). I personally
cannot see man situations where writing wrappers in C by hand works
better than cython (especially since cython handles python2/3
automatical
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 00:19 +0200, Victor Stinner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le lundi 26 septembre 2011 23:00:06, Guido van Rossum a écrit :
> > So, if you have the time, please review PEP 393 and/or play with the
> > code (the repo is linked from the PEP's References section now).
>
> PEP
> ===
> "GDB D
python-dev
I am being forced to support multiple versions of python on Windows
platforms. I have been using PEP 397 and the execution of *.py files works
great. Thank you!!
My problem is idle. The various versions of idle have the same problem as
the various versions of python. We were using an ed
the python book they bought, they will not
bother to go to page two and the greatest new version that you guys develop
is lost all because of a single keyword print that has no technical issues.
Dave Bailey
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2011
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 09:13 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 01:41:46AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > Barry Warsaw writes:
> >
> > > Hopefully, we're going to be making a dent in that in the next version of
> > > Ubuntu.
> >
> > This is still a big mess in Gentoo
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 10:42 +0100, Charles-François Natali wrote:
> > Do people still have to use this in commercial environments or is
> > everyone on 2.6+ nowadays?
>
> RHEL 5.7 ships with Python 2.4.3. So no, not everybody is on 2.6+
> today, and this won't happen before a couple years.
(and R
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 19:34 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:26:27 +1100
> > Andrew Bennetts wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think that's news either.
> >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2003-May/035907.html a
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 20:35 +, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 5 January 2012 19:33, David Malcolm wrote:
> > We have similar issues in RHEL, with the Python versions going much
> > further back (e.g. 2.3)
> >
> > When backporting the fix to ancient python versions, I'm
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 16:55 +0100, Frank Sievertsen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I still see at least two ways to create a DOS attack even with the
> collison-counting-patch.
[snip description of two types of attack on the collision counting
approach]
> What to do now?
> I think it's not smart to reduce
ndSoname_ldconfig(name).
This cause Python to use any library ending with "libc.so" to be loaded
I don't know the reasons behind this but we are concerned about "future issues"
that can occur with this kind of behavior.
For now, we renamed our lib so everything is f
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 19:21 +0100, Victor Stinner wrote:
> As requested, I create a PEP and a related issue:
>
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0416/
[...snip...]
>
> Rationale
> =
>
> A frozendict mapping cannot be changed, but its values can be mutable
> (not hashable). A frozend
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 18:22 +, Jason R. Coombs wrote:
> I see this was reported as a debian bug.
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665776
>
> To reproduce, using virtualenv 1.7+ on Python 2.7.2 on Ubuntu, create
> a virtualenv. Move that virtualenv to a host with Python 2.7.3R
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 10:48 +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> > (and here we see why reference-stealing APIs are a nuisance: because
> > you never know in advance whether a function will steal a reference or
> > not, and you have to read the docs for each and every C API call yo
t qualify for the official stable list as it's a
Tiger-based buildbot, but osx-tiger is an OS X buildbot that's still
chugging along quite nicely (including doing the daily DMG builds).
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plications under Tiger (since
it's easier to support later OS X versions from an earlier build than
vice versa), but I don't know if Python necessarily wants to require
that for releases, ala stable.
-- David
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On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 14:24 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> At what point should we cut over docs.python.org to point to the Python 3
> documentation by default? Wouldn't this be an easy bit to flip in order to
> promote Python 3 more better?
If we do, perhaps we should revisit http://bugs.python.or
rd party tools deal with it as they wish ? That would
not even require speciying the format, and would let us more time to deal
with the other, more difficult questions.
David
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, David Cournapeau
> wrote:
> > If specifying install dependencies is the killer feature of setuptools,
> why
> > can't we have a very simple module that adds the necessary 3 keyw
uld
>> effectively amount to creating a build tool that's both more elegant and
>> more powerful than any option that's currently already out there.
>>
>> Assuming you mean the former, that's what David did to create Bento.
>> Reading and understanding Bento
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:46:58 +0200
> Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
> > > The other thing is, the folks in distutils2 and myself, have zero
> > > knowledge about compilers. That's why we got very frustrated not to see
> > > people with that k
can agree upon and
> > create/install.
>
> Right, and this is where it encouraged me to see in the Bento docs
> that David had cribbed from RPM in this regard (although I don't
> believe he has cribbed *enough*).
>
> A packaging system really needs to cope with two very
egory label for category specific stuff.
This was enough for me to do straight install, eggs, .exe and .msi
windows installers and .mpkg from that with a relatively simple API.
Bonus point, if you include this file inside the installers, you can
actually losslessly convert from one to the other.
7;s tying everything altogether. The uncoupling is the key, because
otherwise, one keep discussing all the issues together, which is part
of what makes the discussion so hard. Different people have different
needs.
David
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Pyt
y out-dated notes there:
http://cournape.github.com/Bento/html/hacking.html#build-manifest-and-building-installers
I will try to update them this WE. I do have code to install, produce
eggs, msi, .exe and .mpkg from this format. The API is kind of
crappy/inconsistent, but the features are there, a
and a
> few ideas on what can be done to fix it.
>
> However, distutils-sig and python-ideas will be the place to post about those.
Nick, I am unfamiliar with python-ideas rules: should we continue
discussion in distutils-sig entirely, or are there so
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