uot;BOM")
- tell() / seek(0) works as expected
- BOM bytes are always skipped in read() / readlines() result
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With Guido choice, encoding="BOM": it raises an error, because BOM check is
not supported when writing into a file. How could the BOM be checked when
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and Antoine choice, and I like it because we can fallback to UTF-8 instead of
the dummy system locale: Windows users will be happy to be able to use UTF-8
:-) I prefer to fallback to a fixed encoding then depending on the system
locale.
gt; or is that taking it too far?
Yes, you're taking it foo far :-) Checking BOM is reliable, whereas *guessing*
the charset only using the byte stream can only be an heuristic. Guess a
charset is a complex problem, they are 3rd party library to do that, like the
chardet project.
s another solution to the point (2) (Check for a BOM while
reading or detect it before?). Which encoding would be used if there is not
BOM? UTF-8 sounds like a good choice.
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What is the recommanded way to get the previous behaviour (print deprecation
warnings once)? Is there a command line option? Is it "-W default"?
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Yes, you can change this "license" to the Python license, but keep the
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lso be useful).
I'm only working on Linux, but Fusil works on any UNIX/BSD OS. Don't use Fusil
on Windows! It might work on Windows but without any protection for your files
and processes!
I hope that my fuzzing tests helped Python project, and may be someone else
would help me t
Hi,
Le mardi 26 janvier 2010 00:40:47, Christian Heimes a écrit :
> Victor Stinner wrote:
> > I'm running regulary my fuzzer (Fusil) on CPython since summer 2008: I
> > tested Python 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2. I'm only looking for
> > "fatal errors&quo
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> other things.
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I'm working on a new sandbox project. The goal is to create an empty namespace
and write strict rules for the interaction with the existing namespace (full
featured Python namespace).
By default, you cannot read a file, use print, import a module or exit Python.
But you can enable some fun
Hi,
Le Tuesday 16 February 2010 11:38:05 anatoly techtonik, vous avez écrit :
> So far, Python timezone handling is far from "pythonic". There is no
> function to get current UTC offset, (...)
There is the time.timezone attribute: UTC offset in seconds.
> One of the reasons I see is that date/ti
pysandbox Python
process, that's all. I tested it under Linux with Python 2.5 and 2.6. The
portage to Python3 is not done yet (is someone motivated to write a
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fast (yeah really! or at least to fast for me ;-)). I'm using "valgrind --log-
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PyErr_SetNone(PyExc_KeyboardInterrupt), ... valgrind is a very good tool to
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to run it to un-do the buggy operation, it would crash immediately.
I don't think that modifying the site.py file is a good idea. Why not
editing/generating the sitecustomize or usercustomize module?
Anyway, if you write such tool: use a different language or use a failsafe
use -v for
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Can it be a problem? Does usercustomize requires that sitecustomize has been
initialized correctly?
(The code can be changed to only import usercustomize if sitec
issues #7774 and #7880 (problems
with sys.executable and modified sys.argv[0]).
I consider that it's a good point to detect the errors earlier, but it breaks
code based on the errors :-) I will no backport the fix to 2.6 (or at least,
not the fix about importing the site module)
Shou
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Could you at least add a Javascript confirmation dialog please? :-)
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If comparaison of Decimal and float can have "unpredictable" result, I would
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> at least in subprocess (_eintr_retry_call, subprocess.py), which can
> probably be moved to another module and be shared from there. (...)
+1 to share EINTR-related code, but I don't know the best place for such
functions. Maybe the os
s. It contains extra
changes to fix many modules and tests if the current directory is not
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knows/uses OS/2.
If we support OS/2, we need a buildbot.
My patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue8391 (os.execvpe() doesn't support
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This tool becomes really useful to analyze buildbot results!
http://code.google.com/p/bbreport/
bbreport requires Python trunk (2.7) and color output only works on UNIX/BSD
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Le samedi 17 avril 2010 20:41:10, Victor Stinner a écrit :
> Ezio and Florent are developing a tool called bbreport to collect buildbot
> results and generate short reports to the command line. (...)
I realized that most issues come from Windows and Mac. Can't we just turn off
thes
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> I'm working on surrogates in filenames on Linux (...)
Related issues:
#8391: os.execvpe() doesn't support surrogates in env
#8393: subprocess: support undecodable current working directory on POSIX OS
#8394: ctypes.dlo
On Windows, Python3 uses LoadLibraryW() to load a library, and the Python API
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I think that I can re-close these two issues because it's a good thing to
avoid the evil, locale dep
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> Victor Stinner wrote:
> > I will be very sad if someone ask me to keep bytearray filename support
> > in 3.2 because I opened a lot of issues about surrogates and I would make
> > my work more diffcult :-(
>
> I don
#x27;s just a bug in getargs.c.
Do someone have information about that? Should it be fixed (only accept
contigious buffer)?
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.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 1392, in _parse_response
return u.close()
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 838, in close
raise Fault(**self._stack[0])
xmlrpclib.Fault:
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Did the buildbot configuration/version changed recently?
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> "need" it.
Ah ok, Python3 doesn't work on OS/2 :-)
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insered the line, and it's not a refactoring patch. Refactoring can be about
the indentation, but there are a lot of other minor changes: op->ob_size =>
Py_SIZE(op), (a) => a, { with a new line => { without newline, ...
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> indentation rule?
Oh, if we decide to reindent all C files, would it be also possible to strip
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eplace("\t", " " * 4)), and then a visual pass is necessary
> to fix vertical alignments and the like.
We should also add pre-commit scripts to avoid the reintroduction of
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the whitespaces of the whole project in one unique commit. Well, or least
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very important for this last release, more
important than "improving it". I prefer to work on new features on 3.x and
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> > Will changing the indentation of source files to 4 space indents break
> > patches on the bug tracker?
>
> Plain patch will choke, but "patch -l" might accept them.
Tested on posixmodule.c: it works
t in a global variable e.g. 'errno' nor are
they congruent with posix error numbers. */
-static PyObject * os2_error(int code)
+static PyObject *
+os2_error(int code)
{
char text[1024];
PyObject *v;
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hardcoded (mbcs, utf-8). On Unix, I don't know in which case nl_langinfo() can
fail. Empty environment is not an error: nl_langinfo(CODESET) returns "ascii".
I think that few (or no) user would notice this change.
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: 4 tests are really
running at the same time, and I only get only one spurious failure:
test_ioctl. It should be easy to fix this test.
Or we can maybe write a blacklist of tests not compatible with multiprocessing
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doesn't have. Linux and FreeBSD schedulers are faster each year since... 5
years?, especially with multiple CPU/cores.
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more sense to create a standard API for each kind of codec. Existing examples
of standard APIs in Python: hashlib, shutil.make_a
type.
What about buffer compatible objects like array.array(), memoryview(), etc.?
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'nop \xe9'
>>> u"abc \u2c01".encode("rot13")
Traceback (most recent call last):
...
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character u'\u2c01' in
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> (In 2.6 it raises an assertion error, because errors *must* be strict)
hex, bz2, rot13, ... codecs should also raise an error if errors is not
"strict" (or None which means "strict") in Python3.
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prefer to reject valid data than a security vulnerability. But audioop has
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Le samedi 03 juillet 2010 14:26:53, Victor Stinner a écrit :
> In the worst case, a function rejects valid data. If I have to choose, I
> prefer to reject valid data than a security vulnerability. But audioop has
> tests and I don't think that my patch breaks anything :-)
I checked
rrors if file system encoding is None
(-> create initfsencoding() in pythonrun.c)
#8715: Create PyUnicode_EncodeFSDefault() function
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> I'm trying to fix Python to support undecodable bytes in the Python path
> (...)
My work is mostly done. I posted a patch on Rietveld and opened an issue.
http://bugs.python.org/issue9425
http://codereview.appspot.
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> * improvements to pdb, the Python debugger
Hey, Python 3(.2) becomes more sexy than Python 2(.7)!
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> in admittedly convoluted cases that are normally syntax errors, like:
> def f(*xx, __debug__): pass
Would it be possible to write tests for this change?
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If you compare 2.5 and 2.7 doc, the 2.5 is just ugly :-) 2.5 has no table of
content at the left and it uses subpages which is less pratical (to search
something using the browser) that a whole module on the same page.
So I just don't care of 2.6 doc :-)
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public API? For my work, it doesn't matter if it's public or not. This
function uses PyMem_xxx API, I don't know if a third part library would like
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> of Py_UNICODE interfaces.
Are you talking about Py_UNICODE_strcat() or Py_UNICODE_strdup() (called
PyUnicode_strdup in py3k branch)?
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a nul character. Return
*NULL*
and raise a :exc:`MemoryError` exception on memory allocation failure,
otherwise return a new allocated buffer (use :cfunc:`PyMem_Free` to free the
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> Please add a "versionadded" tag.
Oh no, I always forget this one. Done in r84475.
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> What about Py_UNICODE_strcat? If it remains, it needs to be documented as
> well.
There is already an issue for that:
http://bugs.python.org/issue8649
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- mbcs encoding (default Windows encoding) is not more strict, eg. don't
encode Ł as L in codepage 1252
I have a list of the related issues, do you need it?
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> I'm attempting to file a bug but keep getting:
File another bug about this bug!
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http://bugs.python.org/issue9880
Ah, yes, you have to add nicknames, not emails. Barry nickname is "barry", and
he's already on the nosy list (because he answered to your issue
e the
existing else statement). I'm not sure that this hack is safe, and so I didn't
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Le samedi 18 septembre 2010 10:24:49, Greg Ewing a écrit :
> Victor Stinner wrote:
> > I'm still developing irregulary my sandbox project since last june.
> >
> > Today, the biggest problem is the creation of a read only view of the
> > __builtins__ dictionary.
&
s']
TypeError: Unable to proxy a value of type
sandbox>>> modules['sys']=1
SandboxError: Read only object
Builtin module type is blocked because it is unsafe.
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> === --- python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/posixpath.py (original)
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> 2010 @@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
> """
>
> import
I suppose that it will make Python slower. The frame
mechanism is already slow (create a new frame to call a Python function is
much slower than calling a function in C).
pysandbox creates a new separated namespace for untrusted functions, but
__builtins__ "namespace" (dict) is sha
rrectly their Mercurial, but it allows to keep
the name of the contributor on a contribution.
Is it possible with Mercurial to add a tag on a commit to specify who commited
a contribution? Like the Signed-By tag with git on the Linux kernel.
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> Nevertheless what are your thoughts on this? Should I file a bug report
> for it?
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> > file system.
>
>My filesystems are always koi8-r, but sometimes I work with programs in
> utf-8 locale. Just an example...
Are programs able to display correctly non-ascii filenames if your locale
encoding is different than your file
Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 18:35:09, M.-A. Lemburg a écrit :
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> > Hi,
> >
> > A PYTHONFSENCODING environment variable was added to Python 3.2: issue
> > #8622. This variable introduces an inconstency because the filesystem
> > and the loca
U_MENUPROXY to the default
> environment and that's what's killing it. I'll bet those Ubuntu buildbots
> are not running Maverick.
Why does urllib test unset this variable? Is it related to an HTTP proxy?
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Yeah, I already noticed that. I added comments to #10114, and then opened
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#10123 should be fixed by r85578.
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> polymorphic function?
If you cannot decide the output type depending on the inputs, it's better to
have two functions.
Examples:
- 2 functions; os.getcwd() / os.getcwdb().
- polymorphic: os.path.*()
But you should never accept
hree commits about
gitignore using git rebase -i, and I kept the wrong changelog.
If it doesn't "hurt", keep it, otherwise you can delete it. As you want. But
each time that I create a git-svn repository, I have to recreate this file.
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Python2 patch (eg. a "3to2" tool, for patches). I don't want to spend 3 hours
or more on a "dead project".
But when I find a bug in Python3, I immediatly check if it does also exist in
Python2. And if both version are affected, I try to fix all ver
I don't know how to ignore the BytesWarning without importing warning. How can
I do that?
Victor
Le vendredi 29 octobre 2010 04:31:42, Benjamin Peterson a écrit :
> 2010/10/28 victor.stinner :
> > Author: victor.stinner
> > Date: Fri Oct 29 02:38:58 2010
> > New Revision: 85902
> >
> > Log:
> >
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> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Victor Stinner
>
> wrote:
> > I don't know how to ignore the BytesWarning without importing warning.
> > How can I do that?
>
> I was suggesting trying to fix the bootstra
On Wednesday 03 November 2010 23:12:01 Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Benjamin Peterson
wrote:
> > 2010/11/3 Nick Coghlan :
> >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Peterson
wrote:
> >>> Warnings is loaded every time anyway.
> >>
> >> I would have agreed with you,
Hi,
I noticed "OSError: [Errno 23] Too many open files in system" errors on your
FreeBSD buildbot. I would like to know if you configured a limit on the open
files or maybe of child processes on this buildbot or not, or if it is a
failure in Python?
The first error always occurs in the first t
On Saturday 06 November 2010 22:36:44 you wrote:
> I couldn't find the matching failures that you're talking about, but
> then I figured out you mean the FreeBSD7 (7.2) buildbot, not the
> FreeBSD (6.4) buildbot
Search "test_concurrent_futures" in:
http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/builders/
On Monday 08 November 2010 00:34:36 David Bolen wrote:
> Victor Stinner writes:
> > You wrote that the "POSIX" semaphore are very limited. Do it mean that
> > there is another kind of semaphore will an higher limit?
>
> Well, I think the SYSV semaphores are either
On Monday 08 November 2010 13:23:33 Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
> >The POSIX semaphore support is not enabled by default in FreeBSD 7, so
> >I added loader.conf stuff to load them (as part of issue7272).
>
> It is enabled by default on FreeBSD 8 at least.
Ok, but I suppose that many user
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 17:23:23 Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:39 AM, victor.stinner
> wrote:
> ..
>
> > Log:
> > Issue #10359: Remove useless comma, invalid in ISO C
>
> C99 allows it. Which compiler is giving you trouble?
I don't know, but the commit is trivial a
On Thursday 11 November 2010 17:07:28 Hirokazu Yamamoto wrote:
> Hello. Is it possible to remove Win32 ANSI API (ie: GetFileAttributesA)
> and only use Win32 WIDE API (ie: GetFileAttributesW)?
> Mainly in posixmodule.c.
Even if I hate the MBCS encoding, because it replaces undecodable characters
On Thursday 11 November 2010 23:01:32 you wrote:
> > Sure, it will divide the number of lines, of the code specific to
> > Windows, by two.
>
> Can we get most of the code cleanup benefit without the backwards
> compatibility risk by doing the decode from 'mbcs' on our side of the
> fence?
I crea
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