[Python-Dev] Changing all network-oriented tests to facilitate (virtually unlimited) parallel test execution [Issue#: 2550]

2008-04-08 Thread Trent Nelson
ests for TCP/IP sockets (see below). Trent. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trent Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 12:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [issue2550] SO_REUSEADDR doesn't have the same semantics on Wi

[Python-Dev] [OT] Wingware IDE key for sprinters at PyCon

2008-04-08 Thread Trent Nelson
Anyone happen to have the key handy that Wingware were giving out to sprinters at PyCon? For the life of me, I can't find what I did with that piece of paper. If someone could forward me it off list, that'd be great. Trent. ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] [OT] Wingware IDE key for sprinters at PyCon

2008-04-08 Thread Trent Nelson
All sorted, thanks. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Trent Nelson > Sent: 08 April 2008 15:48 > To: python-dev@python.org > Subject: [Python-Dev] [OT] Wingware IDE key for sprinters at PyCon > > Anyone h

Re: [Python-Dev] Changing all network-oriented tests to facilitate (virtually unlimited) parallel test execution [Issue#: 2550]

2008-04-08 Thread Trent Nelson
Committed the patch in r62234. Hopefully the work paid off! (He says moments before all the buildbots turn red...) From: Gregory P. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2008 20:58 To: Trent Nelson Cc: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] fixing tests on windows

2008-04-09 Thread Trent Nelson
> -Original Message- > From: Tim Golden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 April 2008 09:30 > To: Trent Nelson > Cc: Python-Dev > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] fixing tests on windows > Yes. I'm trying desperately hard to stick to a narrow remit > of getting

[Python-Dev] Next monthly sprint/bugfix day?

2008-04-09 Thread Trent Nelson
Hi, Is there another online sprint/bugfix day in the pipeline? If not, can there be? ;-) Trent. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/o

Re: [Python-Dev] fixing tests on windows

2008-04-09 Thread Trent Nelson
> Thanks for the prod, Trent. In short, yes, I spent some time > on this over the weekend but haven't had time since. I found > myself becoming more and more worried at the amount I had to > change, especially given rumblings on the list concerning not > changing the tests if possible. > I was he

[Python-Dev] Deco

2008-04-15 Thread Trent Nelson
Neal, Martin, We're in the process of decommissioning the box the 'x86 FreeBSD 3' build slave is running on, can you remove it from the list? Our new FreeBSD 7.0 server is up, which we're slowly migrating to, and I'll be able to set a slave up on that probably some time next week once we've mo

[Python-Dev] Global Python Sprint Weekends: May 10th-11th and June 21st-22nd.

2008-04-16 Thread Trent Nelson
Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix weekends and sprinting efforts at PyCon 2008, I'd like to propose the next two Global Python Sprint Weekends take place on the following dates: * May 10th-11th (four days after 2.6a3 and 3.0a5 are released) * June

[Python-Dev] Code signing of Windows .msi/.dll/.exe's for 2.6/3.0

2008-04-17 Thread Trent Nelson
Hi Barry, Friendly poke to see if there's been any progress on acquiring the relevant certificates such that we can code sign binaries on Windows for 2.6/3.0 ;-) Trent. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Code signing of Windows .msi/.dll/.exe's for 2.6/3.0

2008-04-17 Thread Trent Nelson
> * Why the binaries should be signed? Makes the installation process on Windows Vista and Server 2008 a little nicer; instead of getting an "unknown-executable-could- be-a-virus-aa-watchout"-type dialog with a big red flag, you get a less threatening message saying that

Re: [Python-Dev] BSDDB3

2008-04-22 Thread Trent Nelson
Hi Jesus, > Martin v. Löwis wrote: > | I think it would be helpful if you could analyze the crashes that > | bsddb caused on Windows. Just go back a few revisions in the > | subversion tree to reproduce the crashes. > > I have no MS Windows machines in my environment :-( I remember those rampant

Re: [Python-Dev] BSDDB3

2008-04-24 Thread Trent Nelson
> Next week I will (if nothing goes wrong) publish pybsddb > 4.6.4. This release supports distributed transactions and > replication, testsuite is way faster, and rewritten to be > able to launch tests from multiple threads/processes if you > wish, setuptools/pypi support, etc. Great! Once you'v

[Python-Dev] Do we still need BaseAddress in .vcproj files?

2008-04-25 Thread Trent Nelson
I just did this locally to all my .vcproj files for .pyds: - BaseAddress="0x1e00" + RandomizedBaseAddress="2" This was partly out of curiosity, and partly because it was quicker doing that than finding a new unique base address to use for a new module I added to my local tree. Rebuilt e

[Python-Dev] socket.try_reuse_address()

2008-04-29 Thread Trent Nelson
Since the recent changes to networking-oriented tests (issue 2550, r62234 and r62237), I think it's safe to say stability of the test suite on all the non-Windows platforms has improved significantly in this area (I don't recall seeing any socket errors in *nix buildbot logs since those commits

Re: [Python-Dev] socket.try_reuse_address()

2008-04-29 Thread Trent Nelson
> Giampaolo Rodola' wrote: > > Maybe it would be better considering Windows CE systems too: > > > > - if os.name == 'nt' > > + if os.name in ('nt', 'ce') > > > Cygwin? I don't know how Unix-like it is. Yeah, that's a fair point, it's the behaviour of the underlying Winsock API we're targeting, s

Re: [Python-Dev] socket.try_reuse_address()

2008-04-30 Thread Trent Nelson
> > Giampaolo Rodola' wrote: > > > Maybe it would be better considering Windows CE systems too: > > > > > > - if os.name == 'nt' > > > + if os.name in ('nt', 'ce') > > > > > Cygwin? I don't know how Unix-like it is. > > Yeah, that's a fair point, it's the behaviour of the > underlying Winsock API

Re: [Python-Dev] socket.try_reuse_address()

2008-04-30 Thread Trent Nelson
> if os.name == "nt": > _socketmethods = _socketmethods + ('ioctl',) > +_is_windows = True > +elif os.name == 'java': > +from java.lang import System > +_is_windows = 'windows' in System.getProperty('os.name').lower() > +elif os.name == 'posix' and sys.platform == 'cygwin': > +

Re: [Python-Dev] socket.try_reuse_address()

2008-04-30 Thread Trent Nelson
> This one will not work. > > >>> 'windows' in System.getProperty('os.name').lower() > Traceback (innermost last): > File "", line 1, in ? > TypeError: string member test needs char left operand > >>> Interesting, which version of Jython were you using? > You may have to do something like > Sy

[Python-Dev] REMINDER: Python Sprint Weekend This Weekend!

2008-05-07 Thread Trent Nelson
Just a friendly reminder that this weekend is the Python sprint weekend! Look forward to seeing everyone on #python-dev irc.freenode.net over the course of the weekend! Trent. On 16 Apr, 18:52, Trent Nelson wrote: > >Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix we

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 370 extras

2008-05-15 Thread Trent Nelson
> Christian, you get this week's Awesome Award. Hah, 'Weekly Awesome Award', we should make that one of our things, like QOTW. Trent. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscrib

[Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-15 Thread Trent Nelson
I was about to commit an initial import of the bsddb 4.6.21 source to the 'external' area in the repo, which I obtained from the following URL: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/berkeley-db/index.html I downloaded the source that includes AES encryption, for no reason o

Re: [Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-21 Thread Trent Nelson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesus Cea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2008 23:46 To: Python DEV Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trent Nelson wrote: | I downloaded the

Re: [Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-21 Thread Trent Nelson
> Trent Nelson wrote: > | Gah. I just went and visited the Berkeley DB download site as > | I was preparing my commit message so I could refer to the > | exact .tar.gz being imported, only to notice that the latest > | version is now 4.7.25. Jesus, can we use this version? > &g

Re: [Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-22 Thread Trent Nelson
> > In any case, what would be the procedure to update the buildbot > > infraestructure?. > You need to import the sources into the Python subversion repository; > I understand Trent was about to do that. Indeed. Where do we stand with regards to svn commit e-mails being sent for 'external'? D

Re: [Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-23 Thread Trent Nelson
> I just committed bsddb3 4.7.0. Please install Berkeley DB >=4.7.25. I'll be working on this over the weekend. Trent. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-23 Thread Trent Nelson
> I just committed bsddb3 4.7.0. Please install Berkeley DB >=4.7.25. Oh my. Just finished plugging 4.7.25 into the Windows build environment. Upon running regrtest.py -v -u bsddb test_bsddb test_bsddb3, I get about 300 lines like this printed to stderr: DB->key_range: method not permitted be

Re: [Python-Dev] BSDDB3

2008-05-29 Thread Trent Nelson
riginal Message- From: Jesus Cea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:50 AM To: Trent Nelson Cc: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] BSDDB3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trent Nelson wrote: |> Next week I will (if nothing goes wrong) pu

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 370 extras

2008-05-29 Thread Trent Nelson
> Christian, you get this week's Awesome Award. Hah, 'Weekly Awesome Award', we should make that one of our things, like QOTW. Trent. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscrib

Re: [Python-Dev] Committing bsddb 4.6.4, and where can I put testsuite temp files?

2008-05-29 Thread Trent Nelson
Hi Jesus, Regarding where to place test files, you might want to look at how the current bsddb test suite in Lib/bsddb/test handles the need to create temporary files and such. A bit of work has gone into this particular aspect to improve reliability and robustness on buildbots -- particularil

[Python-Dev] Importing bsddb 4.6.21; with or without AES encryption?

2008-05-29 Thread Trent Nelson
I was about to commit an initial import of the bsddb 4.6.21 source to the 'external' area in the repo, which I obtained from the following URL: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/berkeley-db/index.html I downloaded the source that includes AES encryption, for no reason o

Re: [Python-Dev] Obtaining short file path

2008-06-09 Thread Trent Nelson
If you want a short path name, you should use win32api.GetShortPathName(). Attempting to compute it yourself isn’t as straight forward as you think. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hartwell Bryan Sent: 27 May 2008 08:00 To: python-dev@python.org Subject: [Python-De

[Python-Dev] Progress on switching Windows build to Berkeley DB 4.7.25...

2008-06-17 Thread Trent Nelson
Hi all, Jesus, apologies that this has taken so long for me to get back to, I've been completely and utterly swamped with client work the past few weeks. However, thanks to a couple of hours spare at Detroit airport yesterday, I was finally able to make some progress on updating the Windows Be

[Python-Dev] test_multiprocessing: test_listener_client flakiness

2008-06-18 Thread Trent Nelson
I gave my Windows buildbots a little bit of TLC last night. This little chestnut in test_multiprocessing.py around line 1346 is causing my buildbots to wedge more often than not: def test_listener_client(self): for family in self.connection.families: l = self.connection.

Re: [Python-Dev] test_multiprocessing:test_listener_client flakiness

2008-06-18 Thread Trent Nelson
> The server component *is* listening to localhost by default. The > client in the code I pasted has the server's .address attribute passed > into it to tell the client where to connect to. Interestingly enough, I can't coerce test_multiprocessing.test_listener_client to wedge on my XP laptop. W

Re: [Python-Dev] test_multiprocessing: test_listener_client flakiness

2008-06-18 Thread Trent Nelson
> I just found the cause of the problem ten minutes ago: > It seems that when a socket listens on the address "127.0.0.1" or > "localhost", another process cannot connect to it using the machine's > name (even from the same machine). > The best seems to listen with the empty address "". That doesn

Re: [Python-Dev] test_multiprocessing:test_listener_client flakiness

2008-06-18 Thread Trent Nelson
> Well, on my win2k machine getfqdn('127.0.0.1') returns the actual name > of the machine. This is the name that was stored in server.address. > Hence my patch that simply remove the call to getfqdn. +1 to ditching getfqdn, following patch fixes the issue on my buildbot server: Index: connection.

Re: [Python-Dev] test_multiprocessing:test_listener_client flakiness

2008-06-19 Thread Trent Nelson
> This is a common problem. Binding to '127.0.0.1' will bind to *only* > that address; Indeed. > binding to "" will bind to *all* addresses the machine > is known by. Agreed again. I believe what we're dealing with here though is a lack of clarity regarding what role the 'address' attribute e

Re: [Python-Dev] Any PEP about 2.6 -> 3000 code transition?

2008-08-13 Thread Trent Nelson
> (*) slides: > http://www.interlink.com.au/anthony/tech/talks/OSCON2008/porting3.pdf Hilarious! Seems like that would have been a riot of a session to attend. (I'm kicking myself for attending some other uninteresting talk when yours was on.) Trent. __

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] what version of bsddb to use/accept for 2.6/3.0

2008-08-29 Thread Trent Nelson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 06:15:06PM -0700, Neal Norwitz wrote: > It looks like the WIndows buildbots use 4.4.20. Unfortunately, the > Windows bots aren't in great shape either. It won't be that hard to bump 3.0 on Windows to use 4.7 (assuming that the 3.0 bsddb codebase has Jesus's new

Re: [Python-Dev] ?spurious? Timeout in BSDDB under MS Windows

2008-09-08 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 05:55:13PM +0200, Jesus Cea wrote: > Trent, are you available to look at the ?spurious? timeout failures in > bsddb replication code in the Windows buildbot?. > > Ten seconds timeout should be plenty enough. I can't debug any MS > Windows issue myself; this is a Microsoft-f

Re: [Python-Dev] Switching to Visual Studio 2010

2012-02-01 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:54:31PM -0800, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > > Is this considered a new feature that has to be in by the first beta? > > I'm hoping to have it completed much sooner than that so we can get > > mileage on it, but is there a cutoff for changing the compiler? > > At some point

Re: [Python-Dev] Switching to Visual Studio 2010

2012-02-01 Thread Trent Nelson
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:23:14PM -0800, Trent Nelson wrote: > * Updates to externals/(tcl|tk)-8.5.9.x so that they both build with > VS2010. Before I go updating tcl/tk, any thoughts on bumping our support to the latest revision, 8.5.11? I guess the same question appl

[Python-Dev] Mountain Lion drops sign of zero, breaks test_cmath...

2012-08-17 Thread Trent Nelson
The Mountain Lion build slave I set up earlier this evening fails on test_cmath: == FAIL: test_specific_values (test.test_cmath.CMathTests) --

Re: [Python-Dev] Mountain Lion drops sign of zero, breaks test_cmath...

2012-08-17 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 06:50:09AM -0700, Stefan Krah wrote: > R. David Murray wrote: > > > --- a/Lib/test/test_cmath.pyThu Aug 16 22:14:43 2012 +0200 > > > +++ b/Lib/test/test_cmath.pyFri Aug 17 07:54:05 2012 + > > > > Open an issue on the tracker and make mark.dickinson (and maybe s

[Python-Dev] Snakebite build slaves and developer SSH/GPG public keys

2012-08-22 Thread Trent Nelson
Hi folks, I've set up a bunch of Snakebite build slaves over the past week. One of the original goals was to provide Python committers with full access to the slaves, which I'm still keen on providing. What's a nice simple way to achieve that in the interim? Here's what I was

Re: [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Snakebite build slaves and developer SSH/GPG public keys

2012-08-23 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:24:33AM -0700, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > On 23.08.2012 02:43, R. David Murray wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:53:34 +1200, Noah Kantrowitz > > wrote: > >> For everyone with a record in the Chef server (read: everyone with SSH > >> access to any of the PSF servers at

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite build slaves and developer SSH/GPG public keys

2012-08-23 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:09:14AM -0700, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: > > For committers on other Python projects like Buildbot, Django and > > Twisted that may be reading this -- yes, the plan is to give you > > guys Snakebite access/slaves down the track too. I'll start looking > > i

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite build slaves and developer SSH/GPG public keys

2012-08-23 Thread Trent Nelson
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:28:16PM -0700, Trent Nelson wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've set up a bunch of Snakebite build slaves over the past week. > One of the original goals was to provide Python committers with > full access to the slaves, which I'

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite build slaves and developer SSH/GPG public keys

2012-08-24 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:27:09AM -0700, C. Titus Brown wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:09:14AM +0200, Giampaolo Rodol? wrote: > > > For committers on other Python projects like Buildbot, Django and > > > Twisted that may be reading this -- yes, the plan is to give you > > > guys S

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite build slaves and developer SSH/GPG public keys

2012-08-24 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:39:54AM -0700, Trent Nelson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:27:09AM -0700, C. Titus Brown wrote: > > Don't forget the heavy Xanax requirements on the part of the technical > > owner of > > the space. Dunno if Trent will put up any picture

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 02:24:10AM -0700, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > Is it still up to date? Bug has been created in 2004. > I don't see Tru64 in list of available buildbots. > > Do we need to care about this platform? And how to make sure what > existing code works fine for that? > > Or maybe we can

[Python-Dev] Snakebite v0.1: ready for beta testing.

2012-09-11 Thread Trent Nelson
Quick start: % cd ~ && svn co http://svn.snakebite.net/.snakebite && cd .snakebite && sh snakebite.subr If all goes well, you should see something like this: A.snakebite/snakebite.subr A.snakebite/ssh_config_ext A.snakebite/ssh_known_hosts U .snakebite Checked out revisio

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite v0.1: ready for beta testing.

2012-09-11 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:20:01AM -0700, Trent Nelson wrote: > Quick start: > > % cd ~ && svn co http://svn.snakebite.net/.snakebite && cd .snakebite && sh > snakebite.subr For those that already have ~/.snakebite, one of these will work:

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite v0.1: ready for beta testing.

2012-09-11 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:23:34AM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: >Very cool, Trent! I also love the retro use of svn as a tie-in to how long >you have been fighting to bring this project to fruition. =) Haha. I probably shouldn't mention that I started writing all the wrapper .snakeb

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite v0.1: ready for beta testing.

2012-09-11 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:16:52AM -0700, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Trent Nelson wrote: > > (Pro-tip though: `sh snakebite.subr` will always do its best to > > re-initialize everything, like fixing permissions when svn update > >

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot with -O

2012-09-26 Thread Trent Nelson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 04:13:42PM -0700, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2012/9/26 Maciej Fijalkowski : > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Benjamin Peterson > > wrote: > >> In light of issue #16046, I think it would be helpful to have a > >> buildbot running the testsuite with -O enabled. > > > > H

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot with -O

2012-09-30 Thread Trent Nelson
Just as an FYI, we set up a new "optimized" Snakebite slave yesterday on the Mac OS X Mountain Lion box. I also set up remote access to that box in the process -- you can connect to it via the ~/.snakebite/sb 'x8' alias. (That box happens to be the fastest (and most contempora

[Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-15 Thread Trent Nelson
Any objections to regenerating configure with autoconf 2.69? The current version is based off 2.68, which was release on the 22nd of September 2010. 2.69 was released on the 24th of April, 2012. (There are some fixes for the more esoteric UNIX platforms that Snakebite will b

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:12:35AM -0700, R. David Murray wrote: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:18:04 -0700, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article <20121016043352.ga21...@snakebite.org>, > > Trent Nelson wrote: > > > Any objections to regenerating configure with autocon

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:04:46AM -0700, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <20121016071236.0792d250...@webabinitio.net>, > "R. David Murray" wrote: > > My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. > > The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the repo > > as the

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:43:37AM -0700, Charles-François Natali wrote: > > My understanding is that we use a specific version of autoconf. > > The reason is that otherwise we end up with useless churn in the repo > > as the generated file changes when different committers use different > > versio

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:12:35AM -0700, R. David Murray wrote: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:18:04 -0700, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article <20121016043352.ga21...@snakebite.org>, > > Trent Nelson wrote: > > > Any objections to regenerating configure with autocon

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:17:35AM -0700, Charles-François Natali wrote: > > It should be sufficient to install autoconf-x.y into /home/user/bin or > > something similar. Installing autoconf from source really takes about > > 3 minutes. > > Well, maybe, maybe not. > autoconf depends on a least m4

Re: [Python-Dev] Bumping autoconf from 2.68 to 2.69

2012-10-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:23:00AM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: >On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tres Seaver >wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > On 10/16/2012 09:47 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2012, at 05:3

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes is not an acceptable implementation strategy for modules in the standard library?

2012-11-06 Thread Trent Nelson
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 03:36:00AM -0800, Victor Stinner wrote: > I'm not sure that ctypes is always available (available on all platforms). Indeed. Every non-x86 Snakebite platform has pretty serious issues with ctypes. I spent a morning looking into one platform, Solaris 10 on SPAR

Re: [Python-Dev] externals?

2012-11-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 01:20:09AM -0800, Kristj?n Valur J?nsson wrote: > Perhaps the unix makefiles get the proper version, but a windows developer > has to fetch those externals manually. Pro-tip: if you're developing on Windows, you're mad if you don't prime your dev env with Tools\bui

Re: [Python-Dev] externals?

2012-11-19 Thread Trent Nelson
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:18:43AM -0800, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > I'd like to stress that we don't need any versioning here. wget and > tar would be sufficient, except that it's Windows, so we have neither > wget nor tar. However, including a PowerShell script may be an option; > most developer

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-11-27 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 02:24:10AM -0700, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > Is it still up to date? Bug has been created in 2004. > I don't see Tru64 in list of available buildbots. > > Do we need to care about this platform? And how to make sure what > existing code works fine for that? There's a Snak

[Python-Dev] Handling support for newer OS features at run time

2012-11-27 Thread Trent Nelson
The hackiest part of my WSAPoll patch is this: --- a/PC/pyconfig.h Sun Nov 18 10:42:42 2012 + +++ b/PC/pyconfig.h Sun Nov 18 17:27:29 2012 -0500 @@ -158,12 +158,12 @@ /* set the version macros for the windows headers */ #ifdef MS_WINX64 /* 64 bit only runs on XP or greater */ -#

Re: [Python-Dev] Handling support for newer OS features at run time

2012-11-27 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:09:12PM -0800, Matthias Klose wrote: > Am 27.11.2012 23:49, schrieb Trent Nelson: > > I don't think we've currently got the ability to do this, right? > > Is there a precedent set anywhere else? I suspect it's not as > > m

Re: [Python-Dev] Handling support for newer OS features at run time

2012-11-27 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:14:00PM -0800, Richard Oudkerk wrote: > On 27/11/2012 10:49pm, Trent Nelson wrote: > > Ideally, a Windows binary should make WSAPoll/select.poll() > > available if running on Vista or above, without impacting > > the ability to run on

Re: [Python-Dev] python 3.3 module test failures on FreeBSD 9 amd64

2012-12-08 Thread Trent Nelson
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 01:07:43PM -0800, A G wrote: > Ideally I'd like to resolve these and submit a port for python3.3 since > the most recent FreeBSD port is stuck on 3.2. FWIW, the FreeBSD Python port maintainer, Kubilay Kocak, is active on #python-dev@freenode under the nick 'koobs'.

Re: [Python-Dev] More compact dictionaries with faster iteration

2012-12-10 Thread Trent Nelson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 08:53:17AM -0800, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Dec 10, 2012, at 05:39 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > > >I had ARM platforms in mind, too. Unfortunately we don't have any ARM > >platforms for testing and performance measurement. Even Trent's > >Snakebite doesn't have ARM boxes. I

[Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Trent Nelson
Scenario: I'm working on a change that I want to actively test on a bunch of Snakebite hosts. Getting the change working is going to be an iterative process -- lots of small commits trying to attack the problem one little bit at a time. Eventually I'll get to a point where I'm

[Python-Dev] Possible GIL/threading issue involving subprocess and PyMem_MALLOC...

2012-12-20 Thread Trent Nelson
This seems odd to me so I wanted to see what others think. The unit test Lib/unittest/test/test_runner.py:Test_TextRunner.test_warnings will eventually hit subprocess.Popen._communicate. The `mswindows` implementation of this method relies on threads to buffer stdin/stdout. T

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2012-12-20 Thread Trent Nelson
ative lack of build slave coverage. Today Trent > >> Nelson received the PandaBoard purchased by the PSF, and a Raspberry > >> Pi should be coming shortly as well. > >> > >> http://blog.python.org/2012/12/pandaboard-raspberry-pi-coming-to.html > >> >

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2012-12-20 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:33:27AM -0800, Brian Curtin wrote: > Last week in Raymond's dictionary thread, the topic of ARM came up, > along with the relative lack of build slave coverage. Today Trent > Nelson received the PandaBoard purchased by the PSF, and a Raspberry > Pi

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2012-12-20 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:52:56AM -0800, Trent Nelson wrote: > I'll work on setting the ARM boards up next week. Does anyone have a preference regarding the operating system? There are a bunch of choices listed here: http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Main_Page As

Re: [Python-Dev] Possible GIL/threading issue involving subprocess and PyMem_MALLOC...

2012-12-20 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 05:47:40PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: >On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Trent Nelson >wrote: > > This seems odd to me so I wanted to see what others think. The unit > test Lib/unittest/test/test_runner.py:Test_TextRunne

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2012-12-20 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 03:10:49PM -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > > > > That's good news. A related question about Snakebite, though. Maybe > I > > > missed something obvious, but is there an overview of how the core > devs can > > > use it? In particular, I'd want

Re: [Python-Dev] Possible GIL/threading issue involving subprocess and PyMem_MALLOC...

2012-12-21 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 01:43:11AM -0800, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:31:44 +, > Kristján Valur Jónsson a écrit : > > I ran into this the other day. I had put in hooks in the > > PyMem_MALLOC to track memory per tasklet, and it crashed in those > > cases because it was bein

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2013-01-04 Thread Trent Nelson
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:33:27AM -0800, Brian Curtin wrote: > Last week in Raymond's dictionary thread, the topic of ARM came up, > along with the relative lack of build slave coverage. Today Trent > Nelson received the PandaBoard purchased by the PSF, and a Raspberry > Pi

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2013-01-04 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 02:48:00AM -0800, Trent Nelson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:33:27AM -0800, Brian Curtin wrote: > > Last week in Raymond's dictionary thread, the topic of ARM came up, > > along with the relative lack of build slave coverage. Today Trent >

Re: [Python-Dev] PandaBoard, Raspberry Pi coming to Buildbot fleet

2013-01-04 Thread Trent Nelson
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 05:06:22AM -0800, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2013/1/4 Trent Nelson : > > The installation of Ubuntu on the Pandaboard went smoothly. > > However, it crashes after about an hour. Console output: > > > > http://trent.snakebi

Re: [Python-Dev] Point of building without threads?

2013-01-08 Thread Trent Nelson
[ Weird, I can't see your original e-mail Antoine; hijacking Yury's reply instead. ] On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:28:25AM -0800, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:49 +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > > I guess a long time ago, threading support in operating systems wasn't

Re: [Python-Dev] Point of building without threads?

2013-01-08 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 06:15:45AM -0800, Stefan Krah wrote: > Trent Nelson wrote: > > All our NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD slaves use --without-thread. > > Without it, they all wedge in some way or another. (That should be > > fixed*/investigated,

[Python-Dev] Arena terminology (PyArena vs obmalloc.c:"arena")

2013-01-09 Thread Trent Nelson
There's no correlation between PyArenas and the extensive use of the term "arena" in obmalloc.c, right? I initially assumed there was, based solely on the common use of the term arena. However, after more investigation, it *appears* as though there's absolutely no correlation.

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