[Python-Dev] packaging backport

2011-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
dering if anyone here had some experience in this, and could give me some hints. Thanks Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://m

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging backport

2011-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > 2to3 or Brett's mnfy are likely to be reasonable starting points. Will look at mnfy, thanks -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging backport

2011-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
you a hook for every visited node. IOW that looking for dependencies is to be done Cheers Tarek > > -- > R. David Murray           http://www.bitdance.com > -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging backport

2011-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
e MAPPING dictionary near the top, then you can run 3to2 like this: > 3to2 -fpackaging -fimports files_to_fix.py > (-w option to write changes to the files modified) > Hope this helps, It does, thanks a lot ! Cheers Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org

[Python-Dev] Tomorrow's bug day and issue #1858

2008-02-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
make the patch on the 2.6 trunk (great doc thanks!). I would like to propose this rfe tomorrow at the bug day, amongst other bugs I can try to work on. But I don't know if I should propose it here first since it was previously discussed on catalog-sig, so here it is :) Regards T

[Python-Dev] Distutils - changing the pypirc format

2008-03-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
(this document also contains a change ti PyPI server but this is another point) A patch was built and enhanced in the last bug day, and is available here: http://bugs.python.org/issue1858. Best Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation

Re: [Python-Dev] How we can get rid of eggs for 2.6 and beyond

2008-03-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second, there were no uninstall tools for it, so I'd have had to > write one myself. (Zed's "easy_f'ing_uninstall" to the contrary, it > ain't easy, and I have an aversion to deleting stuff on people's > systems without

[Python-Dev] Distutils patches review request

2008-03-23 Thread Tarek Ziadé
://bugs.python.org/issue2166) - adds unit tests for upload and register (test_upload, test_register) Best regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Global Python Sprint Weekends: May 10th-11th and June 21st-22nd.

2008-04-17 Thread Tarek Ziadé
ally I'd like to work on the documentation changes / clean-up for > the unittest module discussed recently. We are trying to set up a team here in Paris, Personnally I would like to continue the work started in distutils (various patches) and some friends here are interested in contributi

[Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-04-17 Thread Tarek Ziadé
h and submit it to the tracker. Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-04-17 Thread Tarek Ziadé
> - copying a source to a target, but the pyc/pyo file > def filtering(source, target): > return os.path.splitext(filename) not in ('.pyc', '.pyo') > > shutil.copytree(source, target, filter_=filtering) > - oups, made a mistake in my example: def fi

Re: [Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-04-17 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like a neat little feature. Looking forward to it. Maybe the > most useful use case would be to provide glob-style patterns for > skipping files or directories (and their contents). Alright I will work on it th

Re: [Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-04-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
I have submitted a patch for review here: http://bugs.python.org/issue2663 glob-style patterns or a callable (for complex cases) can be provided to filter out files or directories. Regards Tarek ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://

Re: [Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-04-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2008 at 2:38 AM, Isaac Morland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Steven Bethard wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Tarek Ziadé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I have submitted a patch for review here: > http://

Re: [Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-04-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Tarek Ziadé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have submitted a patch for review here: http://bugs.python.org/issue2663 > > > > glob-style patte

[Python-Dev] #1858, looking for a reviewer

2008-05-07 Thread Tarek Ziadé
/ -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: new environment variable PYTHONSTDOUTENCODING

2008-05-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Python-Dev] A smarter shutil.copytree ?

2008-05-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
stage Regards Tarek > > Steve > -- > I'm not *in*-sane. Indeed, I am so far *out* of sane that you appear a > tiny blip on the distant coast of sanity. > --- Bucky Katt, Get Fuzzy > -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy

[Python-Dev] distutils small fix

2008-08-26 Thread Tarek Ziadé
ust a matter of making distutils writing the PKG_FILE correctly. Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] [optparse] I wonder if optparse is dead ? because...

2008-08-30 Thread Tarek Ziadé
> Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ziade.tarek%40gmail.com > -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | w

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-02 Thread Tarek Ziadé
om the command line even if it is done with PATH. So I would love to see this ticket open again; I personnaly would be in favor of an automatic change of PATH by the installer. My 2 cents Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-02 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Tarek Ziadé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I don't see any good reason (besides the technical complexity) to add it > to the Windows installer. > oups.. I don't see any good reason *not* to add it ... :) __

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
on-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ziade.tarek%40gmail.com > -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpre

Re: [Python-Dev] Add python.exe to PATH environment variable

2008-09-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > PS If anyone knows a *good* way of writing wrapper scripts on Windows > which doesn't suffer from the bat file nesting problem above, please > let me (and the rest of the world!) know! You can use setuptools console scri

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon 2009 Call for Proposals

2008-09-27 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Could you explain what this is to us a little more, please? :) > > > > You sit in front of a bunch of people answering questions asked by the > audience. You know, a panel. =) It's just a Q&A session so that PyCon > attendees can ask python-dev a bunch of random questions. Dem

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 focus (was Re: for __future__ import planning)

2008-10-04 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Martin v. Löwis v.loewis.de> writes: This may be more complicated than it sounds, because you'd probably add a very general requirement-indicating feature to PyPI, not merely a 's

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 focus (was Re: for __future__ import planning)

2008-10-05 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:59 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Setuptools declares dependencies, but does not add a Python version >> requirement, >> like what was proposed in PEP 345 (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0345/) >> with a new metadata called 'Requires Python' >> >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils/packaging sprint this weekend

2008-10-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
--am"If you're in Fairfax County and need a lift, let me know"k > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

2008-10-30 Thread Tarek Ziadé
lized in some packages, modules, even if they don't know anything about the C apis of the core. Those "standard library developers" could be blessed to work on specific areas of the standard library and "followed" by a core developer that can just make sure everything goes in the

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

2008-10-31 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> What about having two level of devs ? >> >> + core developers + standard library developers >> >> [cut] > > > So I'd suggest thinking about developer responsibilities more in terms > of areas of expertise rather than "le

Re: [Python-Dev] Holding a Python Language Summit at PyCon

2008-12-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ziade.tarek%40gmail.com > -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http:/

Re: [Python-Dev] Holding a Python Language Summit at PyCon

2008-12-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to volunteer for that part given the fact that I am currently >> working on the patches >> for the mirroring thing in a branch of P

[Python-Dev] distutils patches, request for review

2008-12-07 Thread Tarek Ziadé
org/issue3992 5. #3985 : more cleanup. http://bugs.python.org/issue3985 6. #3986 : http://bugs.python.org/issue3986 Some of them are a few month old so I can refresh the patch on the current trunk(s) as soon as they are picked. Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | h

[Python-Dev] Distutils maintenance

2008-12-19 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Hello I would like to request a commit access to work specifically on distutils maintenance. Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

2009-01-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
ality of the doc might suffer from it if Georg (or others) doesn't have time to review it 2/ slows things down, make the feature/change unavailable until Georg (or others) had the time to review it Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy |

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

2009-01-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> [cut] >> >>> 1/ is better for the flow, but the quality of the doc might suffer >>> from it if Georg (or others) doesn't have time to review it >> >> This is of little concern. As long as the documentation continues >> to build (into html), n

Re: [Python-Dev] [patch 0/8] [RFC] cross compiling python 3.0

2009-01-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Robert Schwebel wrote: > > Yup, will do. > > I suspect that some of the design decisions need discussions; should > that also take place in the issue tracker, or here on the mailing list? For the distutils part, you can use the distutils mailing list if you wish,

[Python-Dev] distutils.mwerkscompiler and macpath deprecation

2009-01-23 Thread Tarek Ziadé
deprecate macpath.py as well ? Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] Broken Test -- test_distutils

2009-01-29 Thread Tarek Ziadé
1 test failed: > test_distutils > > > > Raymond > > > > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.or

[Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-14 Thread Tarek Ziadé
se, but it would be *much* better to have that feedback If you are interested, please let me know. Cheers Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscr

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-15 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am lacking of time right now to finish an important task before 3.2 >> final is out: > > If anyone else got at all confused by Tarek&#x

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-18 Thread Tarek Ziadé
ing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ziade.tarek%40gmail.com > -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-18 Thread Tarek Ziadé
4 and 5; > hopefully I've broken the back of it :-) Thank you very much ! Ideally, if you could push this to hg.python.org/distutils2 (overwriting the existing stuff). Cheers Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-18 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:16:21 + (UTC) > Vinay Sajip wrote: >> Tarek Ziadé gmail.com> writes: >> >> > Ideally, if you could push this to hg.python.org/distutils2 >> > (overwriting the existing stu

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-18 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > Tarek Ziadé gmail.com> writes: > >> Ideally, if you could push this to hg.python.org/distutils2 >> (overwriting the existing stuff). > > Okay, done. I've overwritten existing files and added new ones, only

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-18 Thread Tarek Ziadé
d apply to distutils2.  I > fear that such diffs would be painful to apply, and consist mostly of > rejects.  With idea #3, we get to use a merge tool, which is much better. > > After writing out these ideas, I think the first one is certainly

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
ication (that was the initial use case right ?), please do not consider them as an installation format for Python. Now for a binary archive, that would get installed ala PEP 376, why not ? I'd just be curious to have someone list the advantage of having a project released that way besides th

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Distutils2 1.0a4

2012-03-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Thanks a lot for your hard work and dedication on packaging ! On 3/13/12 9:37 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: Hello, On behalf of the distutils2 contributors, I am thrilled to announce the release of Distutils2 1.0a4. Distutils2 is the packaging library that supersedes Distutils. It supports distribut

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/19/12 11:46 PM, Éric Araujo wrote: ... I don’t think (a) would give us enough time; we really want a few months (and releases) to hash out the API (most notably with the pip and buildout developers) and clean the bdist situation. Likewise (c) would require developer (my) time that is

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 11:05 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: So I prefer to hold it and have a solid implementation in the stldib. The only thing I am asking is to retain ourselves to do *anything* in distutils and continue to declare it frozen, because I

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 11:04 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:00:52 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: The question is what will happen after 3.3. There doesn't seem to be a lot of activity around the project, does it? I think the desire is

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 11:12 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:05:43 +0200 Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: So I prefer to hold it and have a solid implementation in the stldib. The only thing I am asking is to retain ourselves to do *anything

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 11:49 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:22:07 +0200 Tarek Ziadé wrote: I tried to improve Distutils and I was stopped and told to start distutils2, because distutils is so rotten, any *real* change/improvment potentially brakes the outside world. If distutils was so

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 11:54 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:51:03 + (UTC) Vinay Sajip wrote: Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net> writes: Deciding to remove packaging from 3.3 is another instance of the same mistake, IMO. What's the rationale for leaving it in, when it's known to be incom

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 12:39 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:30:51 +0200 Tarek Ziadé wrote: Most of the distutils2 improvements (new PEPs, setup.cfg, etc.) were totally possible in distutils, weren't they? I started there, remember ? And we ended up saying it was impossible to con

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 1:19 PM, Paul Moore wrote: On 20 June 2012 11:34, Tarek Ziadé wrote: On 6/20/12 11:54 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:51:03 + (UTC) Vinay Sajipwrote: Antoine Pitroupitrou.net>writes: Deciding to remove packaging from 3.3 is another instance

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-20 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 5:44 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: Am 20.06.2012 17:34, schrieb Éric Araujo: Hi all, Sorry I can’t take the time to reply to all messages, this week I’m fully busy with work and moving out. To answer or correct a few things: - I am lacking time these months, but that’s because I’m still

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 11:08 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: ... David Cournapeau's Bento project takes the opposite approach, everything is explicit and without any magic. http://cournape.github.com/Bento/ It had its 0.1.0 release a week ago. Please, I don't want to reopen any discussions about Bento h

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/20/12 2:53 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Yeah maybe this subset could be left in 3.3 and we'd remove packaging-the-installer part (pysetup, commands, compilers) I think it's a good idea ! OK, to turn this into a concrete suggestio

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 2:45 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: Guido was asked about build issues and scientific software at PyData this spring, and his take was that "if scientific users have concerns that are that special, perhaps you just need to go and do your own thing". Which is what David is doing.

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 5:50 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: A minor backwards incompat here to fix that issue would be appropriate, if only to be able to say "hey, that issue no longer exists" to folks who condemn the entire ecosystem based on that bug. At least, that is, if there will be another release of se

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 6:44 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: Yes. At the very least, there will be updated development snapshots (which are what buildout uses anyway). (Official releases are in a bit of a weird holding pattern. distribute's versioning scheme leads to potential confusion: if I release e.g. 0.6.

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 7:49 PM, PJ Eby wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tarek Ziadé <mailto:ta...@ziade.org>> wrote: telling us no one that is willing to maintain setuptools is able to do so. (according to him) Perhaps there is some confusion or language barrier here: what I said

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 4:26 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: project should give me so I can compile its extensions ?" I think this has nothing to do with the tools/implementations. If you sit down and ask your self: "what are the information a python I'm not sure if I understand. A project can't "give th

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 7:56 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: ... think any API has been removed or modified. In my opinion, distribute is the only project that should go forward since it's actively maintained and does not suffer from the bus factor. Yeah the biggest difference is Py3 compat, other than that af

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 10:46 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: ... I think we should, as you proposed, list a few projects w/ compilation needs -- from the simplest to the more complex, then see how a standard *description* could be used by any tool It's not clear to me what you mean by description. Package

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/21/12 11:55 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: I think there is a misunderstanding of what bento is: bento is not a compiler or anything like that. It is a set of libraries that work together to configure, build and install a python project. Concretely, in bento, there is - a part that buil

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/22/12 7:05 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: .. - I reject setup.cfg, as I believe ini-style configuration files are not appropriate for a metadata format that needs to include file listings and code fragments I don't understand what's the problem is with ini-style files, as they are suitable for mu

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of packaging in 3.3

2012-06-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 6/22/12 9:11 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: On 6/22/12 7:05 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: I don't understand what's the problem is with ini-style files, as they are suitable for multi-line variables etc. (see zc.buildout) yaml vs ini vs xx

[Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Hello I was wondering if anyone knows if the removed Lib/packaging directory landed in some other places after it was removed. We have http://hg.python.org/distutils2 be the 'packaging' version is a full py3-renamed version we need to keep mirrored Cheers Tarek _

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 9/13/12 11:38 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:14:17 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM, R. David Murray wrote: When the removal was being pondered, the possibility of keeping certain bits that were more ready than others was discussed. Perhaps the b

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 9/13/12 2:45 PM, Paul Moore wrote: 4. ask each project to pour in pkglib anything that can be reused by others +1, although again it'll be down to the projects whether they do actually contribute. Also this somewhat contradicts the "be strict" point above, which is why I'm lukewarm on "be str

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging location ?

2012-09-15 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 9/14/12 5:12 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote: Nick Coghlan gmail.com> writes: I like "distcore" or "distlib", though. I have set up a BitBucket repo called distlib, at https://bitbucket.org/vinay.sajip/distlib/ This has the following bits of distutils2 / packaging, updated to run on 2.x and 3.x w

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] distlib updated with resources API

2012-09-27 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 9/28/12 12:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Last but not least, distlib is the plan forward endorsed by python-dev, Is it? I haven't seen a PEP or an official decision about that. Just because someone proposed it on a mailing-list doesn't mean it is "endorsed by python-dev". We discussed about

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Tarek Ziadé
r approval too, but they don't seem very active. FWIW I think Nick is perfect for this job. Cheers Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé · http://ziade.org · @tarek_ziade ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/list

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