Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

le would then have commit access to all of the Python >> source.) > > SVN supports path-based authorization. > http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.serverconfig.pathbasedauthz.html good point, but then we'd have an authentication management task ... regards Steve -- Steve Ho

Re: [Python-Dev] buffer function

lease submit this question to the comp.lang.python group (python-list at python dot org). Python-dev is for discussion or the development *of* Python, not development *with* Python. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

umber allocated to this draft document? I think it's likely that it will eventually be published, and I'd like a number to use in reference to it if possible, please. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] RELEASED Python 3.0rc2

goes to > Victor for his hard work on fixing up the networking libraries for > Py3k! > Yay, Victor regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-D

Re: [Python-Dev] Optimize Python long integers

But that would be new functionality in a micro-release, which is verboten. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] datetime.date.today() raises "AttributeError: time"

t; How is this different from any other case where you import a module with a standard library name conflict, thereby confusing modules loaded later standard library. Should we do the same for any error induced in such a way? regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119

Re: [Python-Dev] Attribute error: providing type name

rload exception constructors on the number of parameters, or using >> keyword parameters for the new way of filling the exception. > > Or go the traditional "multiple constructor" route and provide class > methods for the alternative mechanisms. > Bear in mind,

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0 final

we again have the situation that the > docs for the new release are wrecked. > Sounds like we need a bot to check the web each new release before the release manager "presses the button" and makes the announcement. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3.0, unicode, and os.environ

they affect everyone. Even though very few people actually understand them. Including me, which is why I've been so quiet on this thread. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ __

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.0.1 possibilities

has been advertised as a 3.0 change hardly seems worth the substantial effort of cutting a release. If cmp() shouldn't have been in 3.0 and was then there's surely no problem about removing it later as promised: anyone who uses it in 3.0 code shouldn't be. If it doesn't have to wa

[Python-Dev] Floating-point implementations

Is anyone aware of any implementations that use other than 64-bit floating-point? I'd be particularly interested in any that use greater precision than the usual 56-bit mantissa. Do modern 64-bit systems implement anything wider than the normal double? regards Steve -- Steve Holden

Re: [Python-Dev] Floating-point implementations

Mark Dickinson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> precision than the usual 56-bit mantissa. Do modern 64-bit systems >> implement anything wider than the normal double? > > I may have misinterpreted your question. Ar

Re: [Python-Dev] Floating-point implementations

Lie Ryan wrote: > On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:15:53 -0500, Steve Holden wrote: > >> Is anyone aware of any implementations that use other than 64-bit >> floating-point? I'd be particularly interested in any that use greater >> precision than the usual 56-bit manti

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3.0, unicode, and os.environ

something that > everybody else here seems to agree upon. I just know that using a distinct > path type has helped me in C++ in the past, and I don't see why it shouldn't > in Python. > Seems to me this just threatens to add to the confusion. If you know what your filesystem

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3.0, unicode, and os.environ

Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: > On Thursday 11 December 2008, Steve Holden wrote: >> Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: >>> What I'd just like some feedback on is the approach to return a distinct >>> type (neither a byte string nor a Unicode string) from readdir(). In >>>

Re: [Python-Dev] The endless GIL debate: why not remove thread support instead?

what they are designed for. Threads are designed to allow >>> blocking processes to go on in the background without blocking the >>> main process. This, they are very useful for. Removing thread support >>> would therefore be a very big mistake. It's needed, it has

Re: [Python-Dev] Reindenting the C code base?

ed the code, and it's a pain to go back. > > I believe "svn blame -x -w" ignores whitespace changes. > Sounds like Uncle Timmy's whitespace management needs to become a little more draconian. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 80

Re: [Python-Dev] How to force export of a particular symbol from python.exe?

ly spent a half-hour trying to find rules on the uses in English of > infinitives versus gerunds and did not find anything definitive. I realize > now, to my disgust, that English usage is very badly afflicted with > "special casing." > This is only significant because Mar

Re: [Python-Dev] extremely slow exit for program having huge (45G) dict (python 2.5.2)

ty a simplistic approach that redefines all space reclamation activities as null functions won't work. I hate to think of all the cycles that are being wasted reclaiming space just because a program has terminated, when in fact an os.exit() call would work just as well from the user's point o

[Python-Dev] 2.6.1 license

ease manage PEP? regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Uns

Re: [Python-Dev] extremely slow exit for program having huge (45G) dict (python 2.5.2)

/ free() functions. I'm no expert enough to find out more on the > subject. > I believe the OP engendered a certain amount of confusion by describing object deallocation as being performed by the garbage collector. So he perhaps didn't understand that even decref'ing all the ob

Re: [Python-Dev] Should there be a way or API for retrieving from a code object a loader method and package file where the code comes from?

iven a line and file. (In other words and invalid > location for a debugger line breakpoint, such as because the line > part of a comment or the interior line of a string that spans many > lines) > Looks like that start of some necessary attention to this issue. The inspect module migh

Re: [Python-Dev] A wart which should have been repaired in 3.0?

/a/b' when >> passed the following paths list: >> >> paths = ['/a/b/c', '/a/b/cd'] > > Change that to [os.path.normpath(p)+'/' for p in paths] and you've got > yourself a winner. > Or possibly [os.path.normpath(p)+os.path.sep fo

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

ut this at PyCon (as well as continuing this thread to some sort of conclusion)? While the sprints are great for those who are already involved some activity specifically targeted at new developers would be a welcome addition, and might even help recruit them. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

Georg Brandl wrote: > Steve Holden schrieb: > >> I think it was courageous of Brett to tackle this issue head-on as he >> did, and of Victor to respond so positively to the various comments that >> have been made on this thread. It would be a pity to lose a developer

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

e a simple bloody blog entry ... i-can-say-this-now-the-entry-is-published-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

y prime! Hey, isn't Ubuntu Debian-based? ... Don't we know people who work for the vendor? ... Maybe they could offer some support if we switched? ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenw

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an svn account

Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jan 3, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > >> Brett Cannon wrote: >> [...] >>> I have been using bzr for all of my importlib work. It's worked out >>> well sans the problem that SOMEONE Barry has not >>> upgrad

Re: [Python-Dev] python.org OS

upgrade since Red Hat went from HJ Liu libc to glibc > 2. Ubuntu is a victim of its own success. They now have to deal with the same diversity of hardware environments as Windows. I hope that Canonical will find a way to stabilize things. regards Steve -- Steve Holden

Re: [Python-Dev] improvements for mmap

ny object supporting buffer > protocol as well as string. > > 2) buffer (mmap_obj) gives a read_only buffer. There should be a way to make > this read_write. > > 3) mmap_obj does not support weak ref. > Can you add these to the tracker as a feature request, please? rega

Re: [Python-Dev] Meet your next release manager: Benjamin Peterson

ates that while he's happy to share the release management around Barry has been keeping the beer all to himself. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___

[Python-Dev] Python 3.0 Porting information

d it" they will not come unless and until they are led by the nose. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org ht

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Python 3.0 Porting information

gt; right away. > > There is also > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/Early2to3Migrations > > although I'm not sure how useful this is (if the "upstream" package > supports 3.0, and is listed in PyPI, then the PyPI listing is better. > This page might help to collect

Re: [Python-Dev] socket.create_connection slow

the other end might come back up > between SYN's. How often could that possibly happen? > When I read it I was tempted to observe they must have been testing Microsoft network services. It is a truly bizarre rationalization of a default that appears to have been taken from DOS-era netwo

Re: [Python-Dev] Single Sign-On for *.python.org

you need to ensure that various services can be separately authorized - someone may have permission to log in to one server but not others? regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ __

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

around to implementing Python 3? Clearly (since both teams are already committed to implementing it) the more we can do to accommodate them the better it will be for cross-implementation compatibility. Or did I miss something? You are, of course, free to make whatever assumptions you like about the en

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

but it's still a good goal in the cases where it *is* possible. Given that your sample code will generally work even for implementations where garbage collection is used rather than reference counting I fail to understand why you insist so hard that a more restrictive rule should be implemented.

Re: [Python-Dev] __del__ and tp_dealloc in the IO lib

givable >> sin in a small program that opens a few files only. It only becomes a >> program when this is itself inside a loop that loops over many >> filenames -- you could run out of file descriptors. > > I do understand this, but I'm sure you realize that there other

Re: [Python-Dev] [PSF-Board] I've got a surprise for you!

s already > managing a T2000 server. Jim: Thanks, this is a terrific offer. I am copying it to the Python developers list so they can discuss it - I know that Solaris is one of the platforms we do get quite a few build questions about. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 5

Re: [Python-Dev] V8, TraceMonkey, SquirrelFish and Python

> I am sure this will be included as a part of the discussion at the VM summit that's taking place as a part of the pre-PyCon activity. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/

[Python-Dev] Sun resources [Was: I've got a surprise for you!]

ue, 27 Jan 2009 10:49:29 -0700 From: Jim Walker Reply-To: james.wal...@sun.com Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. To: Steve Holden References: <20090126233246.ga37...@wind.teleri.net> <497e9320.2030...@sun.com> <497ef94e.3050...@holdenweb.com> Steve Holden wrote: > > Than

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1

sh silently. > > I stand by my opinion about the right way to do this. I also think that > a 3.1 release 6 months after 3.0 is perfectly fine and serves our users > just as well. > +1 regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1

Steve Holden wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: [...] >> I stand by my opinion about the right way to do this. I also think that >> a 3.1 release 6 months after 3.0 is perfectly fine and serves our users >> just as well. >> > +1 > I should have been more explicit. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1

years and years in the way that, say, 2.4 still is. > It might also be a good idea to take the download link off the front page of python.org: until that happens newbies are going to keep coming along and downloading it "because it's the newest". regards Steve -- Steve Holden

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1

I expect that some newbies would find 2.6 a somewhat > confusing mix of old and new. > Fair point. At least we both agree that the current site doesn't best serve the punters. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1

rtainly never intimated such a thing (I said it was "a rushed release"). Did anyone? Of course we can fix it. Of course 2.6 is great. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ __

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1

ough we know what they are doing and what they want, is not going to lead to better acceptance of future releases. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev ma

[Python-Dev] Python Best Again

national Python community. Please pass this on to other members of your developer community who may not receive this message directly. Seriously, thanks. Having quality releases of a great language really does make it easier to promote Python! regards Steve -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.c

[Python-Dev] Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors – The Story of Data

Interesting article about Gentoo's approach to developer recruitment from GSoC: http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/2012/07/10/how-to-recruit-open-source-contributors/ S -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web

[Python-Dev] PyCon is coming - we need your help

any channels you know of that have an interest in the Python language and its applications - publicity is the key to getting the most diverse group of people at PyCon. regards Steve Holden Chairman, PyCON DC 2005 -- PyCon DC 2005: The third Python Community Conference http://www.pycon.org/ http

[Python-Dev] PyCon Registration Opens Today!

and peaceful holiday season. regards Steve Holden Chairman, PyCON DC 2005 -- PyCon DC 2005: The third Python Community Conference http://www.pycon.org/ http://www.python.org/pycon/ The scoop on Python implementations and applications ___ Python-Dev

[Python-Dev] PyCon Preliminary Program Announced!

always, I would appreciate your help in getting the word out. Please forward this message to your favorite mailing lists and newsgroups to make sure that everyone has a chance to join in the fun! regards Steve Holden Chairman, PyCON DC 2005 -- PyCon DC 2005: The third Python Community Confe

[Python-Dev] Microsoft to Provide PyCon Opening Keynote

http://www.python.org/moin/PyConDC2005/Schedule for the current schedule, and register at http://www.python.org/pycon/2005/ regards Steve Holden Chairman, PyCON DC 2005 -- PyCon DC 2005: The third Python Community Conference http://www.pycon.org/ http://www.python.org/pycon/ The scoop

[Python-Dev] PyCon: The Spam Continues ;-)

vide PyCon Opening Keynote" is [Python-Dev] Microsoft to Provide PyCon Opening Keynote by Steve Holden (you can repeat the search to see whether this assertion is true as you read this mail, and read the opening keynote announcement [I hope...]). Space at PyCon is again enlarged, but it cert

[Python-Dev] Re: [PyCON-Organizers] PyCon: The Spam Continues ;-)

Steve Holden wrote: [some things followed by] If I remember Trent Lott (?) described at an IPC the SQL Server database that drives this system, and it was a great example of open source technology driving a proprietary (but I expect (?) relatively portable) repository. Please forgive me for

[Python-Dev] Re: [PyCON-Organizers] PyCon: The Spam Continues ;-)

David Ascher wrote: Steve Holden wrote: Dear python-dev: The current (as of even date) summary of my recent contributions to Python -dev appears to be spam about PyCon. Not being one to break habits, even not those of a lifetime sometimes, I spam you yet again to show you what a beautiful

[Python-Dev] Re: [PyCon] Reg: Registration

ay morning. I look forward to joining you all to hear Guido speak on "The State of Python". regards Steve -- Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/ Holden Web LLC +1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119 __

[Python-Dev] Database import problems

e off-list (or on-list, come to that) to anybody who can assist. regards Steve -- Meet the Python developers and your c.l.py favorites Come to PyCon http://www.python.org/pycon/2005/ Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev

[Python-Dev] Re: Comment regarding PEP 328

Josiah Carlson wrote: Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Josiah Carlson] if we could change import in such a way that made standard library imports different from standard library imports, we could [Greg Ewing] ...go on to prove that black is white and get ourselves killed by a python on

[Python-Dev] Re: python-dev Summary for 2005-01-16 through 2005-01-31

at least as good as me (I thought he was better), and life carried on. If you were to ask a member of the Sun UK User Group now the name of their second chairman I'd be very surprised if they had any idea who the hell Steve Holden was. (Historical note: the first chairman was Chris Brown,

[Python-Dev] Final PyCon Keynote from Google Speaker

ble via http://www.python.org//pycon/2005/register.html This is going to be a great opportunity for all those with an interest in Python to see just how far the language has come. regards Steve Holden Chairman, PyCON DC 2005 -- PyCon DC 2005: The third Python Community Conference http://www.py

[Python-Dev] Re: Documentation for __new__

Greg Ward wrote: On 05 March 2005, Nick Coghlan said: Steven Bethard has put together some text to add __new__ to the list of Basic Customisation methods in the language reference. Would one of the documentation folks care to take a look at it? I've tried to tighten up the text there and hopeful

[Python-Dev] Re: comprehension abbreviation (was: Adding any() and all())

then transforming the copies as a separate step seems a little ... unnecessary. Having to write [x for x in seq] to produce a copy of a list doesn't seem that outrageous to me, and I don't find the predicate-less case of your proposal that convincing: [x in seq] seems somehow to

[Python-Dev] Re: marshal / unmarshal

privileges in order to avoid the impression that we might one day work on stuff that actually useful to real Python users. Except, possibly, conferences. The effbot is at least averagely cantankerous this month :-) unworthi-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden+1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494

[Python-Dev] Re: anonymous blocks

unction namespaces are in fact extremely short-lived, and there is little point worrying about clutter as long as there's no chance of confusion. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Progr

Re: [Python-Dev] Summer of Code: Developing complete SSL support for Python

's - by the incorporation of the CAs' self-signed certificates, as in the browsers. So almost certainly if the platform has a certificate repository it might be good to offer an interface to that, as well as offering a private certificate repository. regards Steve -- Steve Holde

Re: [Python-Dev] Adventures with ASTs - Inline Lambda

. The context > diff is less than two printed pages. I can post it somewhere if people > are interested. > > Anyway, I am not going to lobby for a language change or write a PEP > (unless someone asks me to.) I just wanted to throw this out there and > see what people think o

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: defaultdict

e type) then a factory function would be a very acceptable substitute, no? (The function could make use of a subclass - there's surely no necessity to provide the default as an initializer argument: it could be provided as an argument to a method present only i

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures in test_timeout

se subprocess to start a reliably slow server on localhost? It might even be possible to retrieve the ephemeral port number used by the server, to avoid conflicts with already-used ports on the testing machine. regards Steve -- Steve Hol

Re: [Python-Dev] bytes type discussion

s just below 10 SEK/L, > but they found a way... > IIRC Guido is on record as saying "There will be no Python 2.10 because I hate the ambiguity of double-digit minor release numbers", or words to that effect. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: defaultdict

or functions. > Also, I think has_key/in should return True if there is a default. > It certainly seems desirable to see True where d[some_key] doesn't raise an exception, but one could argue either way. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden W

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: defaultdict

mplementing a multiset so that one can write > > d[key].append(value) > > to add a new key/value to the multiset without having to handle the > case separately where the key isn't in the dict yet. This also works > for sets instead of lists: > > d = {} > d.default_fa

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: defaultdict

we use (or should use) documentation. > > One could wish this ideal had been the case for the import extensions defined in PEP 302. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC www.holdenweb.com PyCon TX 2006 www.pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot is all green

e that (still at http://www.benjiyork.com/pybb). >> >>I liked your current version better so I installed it. > > > How about this one: > http://styx.livinglogic.de/~walter/python/BuildBot_%20Python.html > All formats would be improved of the headers could be made to fl

Re: [Python-Dev] defaultdict proposal round three

so I'm just trying to make > sure we don't squander it lightly. > Given that the default entries behind the non-existent keys don't actually exist, something like "virtual_dict" might be appropriate. Or "phantom_dict", or "ghost_d

Re: [Python-Dev] Using and binding relative names (was Re: PEP forBetter Control of Nested Lexical Scopes)

rgraduate project at Leeds University). Griswold later went to the University of Arizona and developed Icon, Dewar went to Rutgers (I think) and developed SETL. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/L

Re: [Python-Dev] When will regex really go away?

the uses of regsub to re, any > Neal> volunteers? > > Whippersnapper... sheesh! I still remember when all we had was regex. And > we were thankful for it, by golly. Now you'd think the young-uns never knew > it existed. > You had regex? You were lucky. (etc., etc.) y

Re: [Python-Dev] conditional expressions - add parens?

vel = (0 if "absolute_import" in self.futures else -1) > Contrast with the bleeding obvious: level = 0 if "absolute_import" in self.futures: level = -1 or even, if a certain obscurity is desirable: level = - ("absolute_impor

Re: [Python-Dev] conditional expressions - add parens?

Morel Xavier wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: > >> Contrast with the bleeding obvious: >> >> level = 0 >> if "absolute_import" in self.futures: >> level = -1 >> >> regards >> Steve > > > > The issue tha

Re: [Python-Dev] conditional expressions - add parens?

Joe Smith wrote: > "Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Jim Jewett wrote: >> >>>I think that adding parentheses would help, by at least signalling that >>>the logic is longer than just

Re: [Python-Dev] conditional expressions - add parens?

require, and would like some sort of advance > warning. Parentheses at least tell me "You're not done > yet; keep reading." > > >>> ack(r,r) if r not in cache > > >>> log(message) if error_flag > I think you've misunderst

Re: [Python-Dev] "as" mania

; It's not a big deal, but it is not completely negligible either. > On the third hand, what about >>> def foo((x1, y1), (x2, y2)): ... print x1, y1, x2, y2 ... >>> origin = (10, 1) >>> corner = (20, 2) >>> foo(origin, corner) 10 1 20 2

Re: [Python-Dev] quit() on the prompt

) > [GCC 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>>>raise SystemExit("quit() called") > > quit() called > Error! > > (At least,

Re: [Python-Dev] conditional expressions - add parens?

Morel Xavier wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: > >>Contrast with the bleeding obvious: >> >> level = 0 >> if "absolute_import" in self.futures: >> level = -1 >> >>regards >> Steve > > > > The issue that spa

[Python-Dev] The "Need for Speed" Sprint, Reykjavik, Iceland, May 21-28, 2006

is available, please notify Steve Holden of your intention to attend by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog holdenweb.blogspot.com

[Python-Dev] Don Beaudry

Does anyone have a current email address for Don? I've had a bounce from dvcorp.com and I need to get in touch with him. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my

[Python-Dev] Calling Thomas Heller and Richard Jones

If Thomas Heller and Richard Jones haven't recently received email from me (and are reading this list, naturally) I'd appreciate it if they'd get in touch with me in the next day or so. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Hol

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r46043 - peps/trunk/pep-0356.txt

* ElementTree/cElementTree (Fredrik Lundh) > - * pysqlite (Gerhard Haering) >* setuptools (written, needs conversion to proper format) > > - AST compiler problems > _______ > Python-checkins mailing list > [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Python-Dev] A Horrible Inconsistency

nstituionally incapable of using a forward slash. Don't know what's with the square brackets though ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Love me, lo

[Python-Dev] This

nt he discussions. Google hasn't given me a lot to go on. Anyone? [Follow-ups to python-dev would be best, I suspect]. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.co

Re: [Python-Dev] A Horrible Inconsistency

Greg Ewing wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: > > >>In actual fact the effbot has lately found itself so permeated with >>Windows that it has become constituionally incapable of using a forward >>slash. Don't know what's with the square brackets though ... >

Re: [Python-Dev] epoll implementation

the best one available. > Of course that would mean establishing which *was* the best available which, as we've seen this week, may not be easy. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my

Re: [Python-Dev] Need for Speed Sprint status

cker when I get a chance. There are a > couple of new Coverity complaints that need to be addressed. > That'll be great. Again, let me say we've had terrific support from many other developers. I hope the whole community benefits from this sprint. regards Steve

Re: [Python-Dev] Let's stop eating exceptions in dict lookup

accepting two arguments. IMHO I think we should accept that the behaviour needs to change and be prepared for a few anguished squeals. FWIW I suspect they will be even fewer than anticipated. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://ww

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Benchmarks

explains the bogus subtest results I'm seeing, and the "magic >>hardware" behaviour you're seeing. > > > That's exactly the reason why tests run for a relatively long > time - to minimize these effects. Of course, using wall time > make this approach vulne

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Benchmarks

er-informed. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog http://holdenweb.blogspot.com Recent Ramblings http://del.icio.us/steve.holden ___ Pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] External Package Maintenance (was Re: Please stop changing wsgiref on the trunk)

o was offended by the original message please pretend > that it was delightfully witty and written by Tim instead? Thanks. ;) > I wonder what the hell's up with Tim. He's been really crabby lately ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden We

Re: [Python-Dev] Dropping externally maintained packages (Was:Please stop changing wsgiref on the trunk)

ably-until-the-end-of-time-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog http://holdenweb.blogspot.com Recent Ramblings http://del.icio.us/steve.holden _

Re: [Python-Dev] ImportWarning flood

ys/packages.html > Yeah, that'll really help the end-user whose sys admin has just upgraded to 2.5, won't it? regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Love me, love my blog http://holdenweb.blogspot.c

Re: [Python-Dev] Bare except clauses in PEP 348

ted. > Perhaps you should go for the £10 argument next door? regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http:/

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