On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:30:25PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Ubuntu (and probably Debian): apt-get install python-lxml
Tested in Debian: yes, the incantation works.
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run with root privileges, so why not copy? As for group ownership - any
user can change group if [s]he belongs to the group.
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:56:13AM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann phd.pp.ru> writes:
> >Only root can change file ownership - and yes, there are scripts that
> > run with root privileges, so why not copy?
>
> Because the new function would then be usel
n't know about other OS/FS (ZFS? NTFS?)
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On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:28:07PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:14:41PM -0600, Adam Olsen wrote:
> > Yet the ext4
> > developers didn't see it that way, so it was sacrificed to new
> > performance improvements (delayed allocation).
>
>
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:14:21PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
> I use MySQL, but sort of intend to learn PostgreSQL. I didn't know that
> PostgreSQL has no real support for BLOBs.
I think it has - BYTEA data type.
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bf\xc0\xc1\xc2\xc3\xc4\xc5\xc6\xc7\xc8\xc9\xca\xcb\xcc\xcd\xce\xcf\xd0\xd1\xd2\xd3\xd4\xd5\xd6\xd7\xd8\xd9\xda\xdb\xdc\xdd\xde\xdf\xe0\xe1\xe2\xe3\xe4\xe5\xe6\xe7\xe8\xe9\xea\xeb\xec\xed\xee\xef\xf0\xf1\xf2\xf3\xf4\xf5\xf6\xf7\xf8\xf9\xfa\xfb\xfc\xfd\xfe\xff'
What am I doing wrong?
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ass, except that it represents months offset from a date,
> rather than an exact period offset from a date.
I'd rather see the code merged with timedelta: timedelta(months=n).
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e-digits (have we learned nothing from Y2K? :-)) with the
> _middle_ ones changing fastest!
>
> I know it's the US standard, but Python is global. Could we have an
> 'international' style instead, say, year-month-day:
>
> ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2009-04-17 - 2009-04-24)
cepts
> them at all.
In different encodings on the same filesystem...
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table i18n less hard or else the number of
portable internationalized program will be about zero. What the way should
be - I don't know.
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irectory?!
If any program starts to raise errors Python becomes completely unusable
for me! But is there anything I can debug here?
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:32:26AM +0200, Thomas Breuel wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:00, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > I have an FTP server to which clients with different local encodings
> > are connecting. FTP protocol doesn't have a notion of encoding so filenames
&
http://pypi.python.org/pypi
"Copyright © 1990-2007, Python Software Foundation"
:s/2007/2009/
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:06:03AM -0400, Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> It says that the summary line may be used by automatic indexing tools,
> but is there any evidence that such a tool actually exists?
epydoc, for one.
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> probably running on a Unix OS.
http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/FAQ#FAQ.2BAC8-TechnicalDetails.What_about_Windows_line_endings_vs._Unix_line_endings.3F
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on't know if it was
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Python (if you posted this to the python-dev mailing list instead of c.l.p
or c.l.p.a)?
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rgument x: double
is how C functions are declared in Python, so I think annotations is the
way to go for such declarations.
> >Python 3.0 has arguments and return value annotations:
> >
> > http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html#new-syntax
> > http://www.py
necessary in one
configuration mechanism.
Subversion handles these issues by providing svn:eol-style and
svn:mime-type (handles both MIME type and charset) properties on a
file-by-file basis.
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On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:50:03PM +0400, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
>Subversion handles these issues by providing ...
> svn:mime-type (handles both MIME type and charset)
> file-by-file basis.
Dirkjan, how does Mercurial handles charsets? If I have three files in
my repository - one
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 04:04:24PM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 15:57, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > Dirkjan, how does Mercurial handles charsets? If I have three files in
> > my repository - one in utf-8, another in koi8-r, and the third in cp1251
&
bug. Either they should be marked, or converted to ascii or utf-8; the
coding pseudocomment (directive) should be changed accordingly.
Probably there are other files.
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On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:34:39AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann writes:
> >Dirkjan, how does Mercurial handles charsets? If I have three files in
> > my repository - one in utf-8, another in koi8-r, and the third in cp1251
> > encoding - I ce
These two I know for sure:
Python 2.5: MSVC-7.1 (VC++ 2003)
Python 2.6: MSVC-9.0 (VS 2008)
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x27;ip_str'.
There are two classes, IPv4 and IPv6 whose __new__ never create an
instance of its class, instead they create instances of other classes. Why
IPv4 and IPv6 are classes and not (factory) functions (like function IP)?
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:53:36PM -0700, Peter Moody wrote:
> hold over from when I was trying to be too fancy. fixed as well.
Thank you. The PEP and the code is Ok for me. Something like this should
be in the stdlib. Currently I'm using IPy.
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> _compat_has_real_bytes = bytes != str
Wouldn't it be nicer "bytes is not str"?
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el 32 DLL
Why not just name it kernel32.dll?
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ery upcoming changes
> that are not going in a PEP process (when it's not
> a 'big' change).
Thank you!
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es, so it is
important to make the summary right - short and descriptive.
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On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 12:21:06PM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote:
> Start a new bug
"Before starting a new bug please try to search if the bug has already
been reported. It it has - do not start a new report, add your comments to
the existing report."
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can
I not to put full paths to modules)? I use PYTHONPATH manipulation - its
enough to write a shell script that starts daemons once and use it for many
years. How can I do this without sys.path?!
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for .pyo if the .pyc file is not present?
>
> What do you think?
+1 from me.
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On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:34:22AM -0800, Talin wrote:
> I noticed the other day that the word "Pythonic" means "Prophetic",
This is, of course, due to the Greek mythology and the oracle at Delphi!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28mythology%29
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n't because urllib2 provides not only an abstraction,
but a lot of services (authenticated proxies, cached FTP files)...
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;t do much about it, though.
HTTP is one of the most widely known and used protocol. Would you better
have big httplib and small abstract urllib? so abstract it doesn't allow a
user to change protocol-specific handling?
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Leave it for py3k, then.
> and we'd need
> contributors who contribute such a refactoring
That's the hardest part.
> If applications use urllib *only* for http, and
> *only* because it has these multi-request, implicit headers
> features, something is wrong with the
005-September/056782.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-October/057120.html
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n which case, reviving the question is not a bad idea, is
> it?
I don't remember any resolution. I think submitting a small module to
the patch tracker would be the simplest way to revive the discussion.
> On 12/29/06, Oleg Broytmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://m
er Individuals" and not
by "Computer Programming for Everyone Committee".
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On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:24:30PM +, Steve Holden wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 10:10:37AM +, Steve Holden wrote:
> >> Python further away from the "Computer Programming for Everyone" arena
> >> and closer to the "
now if "CP4E" idea is still on his agenda and
with what priority.
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anguage based on the idea the
features are not "4E". Python, IMHO, has gone far beyond "4E" already.
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h is the right one.
I am afraid this could lead to proliferation of low-quality patches. A
patch must touch at least code, documentation and tests, be tested itself
and must not break other tests. These requirements demand higher expertise.
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there will always be a root file name (and no
> extension if the file is just a dotfile).
>
> Should this be changed? Opinions?
Yes. In .pythonrc.py .pythonrc is the root, and .py is the extension.
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t OS
I have. (-: I often copy files from an ext3 partition to a FAT partition
on my dual-booting desktop.
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:07:16PM +0100, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann schrieb:
> > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 04:00:01PM +0100, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> >>>Yes. In .pythonrc.py .pythonrc is the root, and .py is the extension.
> >>
name, not the
extension. Well, 'a' cannot be empty because it's the name, but 'b' can be
empty. For ".pythonrc.py" ".pythonrc" is the name and ".py" is the
extension. For ".pythonrc" ".pythonrc" is the name and there is no
extensi
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 06:54:30PM +0100, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> back_name = splitext(name[0]) + '.bak'
back_name = splitext(name)[0] + '.bak'
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tions and
> date parsing to be very useful, in a Pythonic sort of way.
Python world has excellent mxDateTime that does a very good job of date
parsing and date/time arithmetic!
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 04:12:06PM +, Facundo Batista wrote:
> (didn't know about "annotate").
It is also known under the name "blame"! ;)
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 07:14:35PM +0200, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann schrieb:
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 04:12:06PM +, Facundo Batista wrote:
> >> (didn't know about "annotate").
> >
> >It is also known under the na
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:58:41AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> It might even be worthwhile to give PEP 8
> more exposure in the tutorial or on the documentation ToC page.
And bundle the PEP with the distributed documentation.
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t pulling in all three development lists into all the
> summaries. I prefer the second option
I prefer the second, too.
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nd args[0]" triggers the exception.
My questions are:
1. Should I consider this a bug in the logging module (and other libraries)
and submit patches?
2. Or should I stop raising exceptions in __nonzero__()?
In this particular case with logging the fix is simple - do "and args[
ith iterators; e.g.:
>
> >>> x=iter([])
> >>> if x: print "yes"
> ...
> yes
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:29:10AM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> So I'm for #1 *and* #2.
I see now. Thank you!
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:33:47PM +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> >if sqlQuery:
> > for row in sqlQuery: ...
> >else:
> > # no rows
> >
> >To prevent users from writing such code the class implements __nonzero__()
> >that always
few different copies of gcc installed with setup.py called
the wrong one and your shell script the right one?
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No, __spam__!
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n__ module instead.
I saw it, and I think it'd be the best.
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Yes, this is the correct solution for all cases: if the timeout is None
(socket is blocking) or 0 (non-blocking) or not-0 (blocking with timeout)
- just set it back.
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uld be
from __future__ import antigravity
XKCD'ly yours ;)
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#x27;s worth to mention the existing of them, briefly.
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qlite) and user.database.sqlite (a newer version); and by doing import
database.sqlite you know exactly what version you are importing.
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quot;core". When I'm using Python I already know I'm using Python, I don't
> want to be reminded of that fact on every import line.
When I'm using Jython - am I using Python of Java? After
from java.lang import Class
should it be
from py import exc
ferent distributions), Solaris and FreeBSD for quite
a long time (though I have never used GNOME/KDE/etc.)
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~/.python/lib
~/.python/lib/python2.5
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c., imagine what
> my CPPFLAGS, CFLAGS and LDFLAGS arguments look like. :barf:
Why not use GNU stow?
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ittle better than ~/local, but both work for me.
Having ~/.python allows me remove it with just one command. It's harder
to clear ~/.local/{bin,lib} without affecting whatever I want to preserve
there.
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s - some platforms silently
ignores the options, some reports an error, some tries to find "python -E -s"
in the PATH and report "Bad command or file name".
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On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 06:25:57PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
> -On [20080120 18:12], Oleg Broytmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On most Unicies #! magic may have only one parameter after the program;
> >the program here is env, the parameter is python, and tha
OS X thing. I haven't seen it on other Unix systems.
>
> There is (at least) one linux distro using it, but it's not very
> well-known.
Gobo Linux?
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On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 07:30:03PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote:
> Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> > #! /usr/bin/env python -O
> >
> >[trying to execute the script on Linux]
> >
> > /usr/bin/env: python -O: No such file or directory
> >
> > Oleg.
>
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 07:34:02PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote:
> Op zondag 20-01-2008 om 20:46 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Oleg
> Broytmann:
> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 06:46:31PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote:
> > > Op woensdag 16-01-2008 om 02:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef C
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 12:17:20AM +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote:
> * Oleg Broytmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-20 20:12:38 +0300]:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 06:00:31PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote:
> > > #!/usr/bin/env python -E -s
> >
> >On
... [-c cmd | -m mod | file | -] [arg] ...
Try `python -h' for more information.
$ python -E -s
Unknown option: -s
usage: python [option] ... [-c cmd | -m mod | file | -] [arg] ...
Try `python -h' for more information.
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/dev/tty", "r+")
>>> tty.write("1\n")
1
>>> line = tty.readline()
DDD
>>> line
'DDD\n'
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 11:32:54AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Does no-one thinks it means round(f) either?
I don't think so. I often emulate round(f) as int(f + 0.5).
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> Or we can get rid of bsddb and not have the problem anymore. =)
+1 for smaller stdlib and fewer problems.
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additional question? These words - what they were
about? about the architecture of BDBStorage and Subversion, or about the
very BerkeleyDB, or about what?
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On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:35:42PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> not needing an explicit interpreter option makes it more shebang friendly
Sorry, I missed something here. How does one combine a zipfile with
a shebang script?!
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s also news to me when the issue I
> linked in my previous post was first brought to my attention :)
So it really works? Amazing!
Thank you!
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 06:35:46PM -0400, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
> class x:
> pass
> class y(x):
> pass
> try:
> raise y
> except y:
> print "a"
> except:
> print "b"
>
> It prints 'b'.
Python 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 on
Ah, yes - with this addition it prints 'b'.
> class x:
> pass
> class y(x):
> pass
> try:
> raise y
> except y:
> print "a"
> except:
> print "b"
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ed from SourceForge?
Yes, exactly. Eric Raymond claims to be the inventor, but there are
different voices against him:
http://damagestudios.net/blog/2005/08/15/sourceforge-founders
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ex.html#sharing-with-peers
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Hello. In Python 2.5.1 the code
import decimal
for d in '123', u'123':
x = decimal.Decimal(d)
print type(x.to_eng_string())
prints
In 2.5.2 it prints
Why the change? Is it a bug or a feature? Shouldn't .to_eng_string()
always return a str?
Oleg
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:47:42AM -0400, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Oleg Broytmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In 2.5.2 it prints
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Why the change? Is it a bug or a feature? Shouldn't .
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