Re: [Python-Dev] subprocess shell=True on Windows doesn't escape ^ character

2014-06-22 Thread Mark Lawrence
an do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytho

[Python-Dev] Pending issues

2014-07-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
d style classes are defined. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___

[Python-Dev] PEP 3121, 384 Refactoring Issues

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
free to put me on the nosy list and ask for a test run. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avas

Re: [Python-Dev] Reviving restricted mode?

2014-08-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
approach, but I can't find them. Any chance of giving us some context, or do I have to retrieve my crystal ball from the menders? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Law

Re: [Python-Dev] Documenting enum types

2014-08-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
ll be seeing the PSF in court, on the grounds that I've just bust a gut laughing :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@

Re: [Python-Dev] List insert at index that is well out of range - behaves like append

2014-09-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
houldn't that read s[i:i+1] = [x] ? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] [RELEASE] Python 3.4.2 is now available

2014-10-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
f work. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
the famous GDB debugger? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
Links to older versions have been pointed out on other threads, either here or python-ideas, maybe both? Or use the command line as Antoine pointed out elsewhere. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Re: [Python-Dev] New Windows installer for Python 3.5

2015-01-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
PATH so it could be 32 or 64 bit. Does this mean that the launcher could be or needs enhancing so 32 or 64 bit can be selected? I'm not sure if anything can be done about pyw.exe, perhaps you (plural) can throw some light on this for m

Re: [Python-Dev] New Windows installer for Python 3.5

2015-01-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
hat's help keep me slightly sane is the Rapid Environment Editor http://www.rapidee.com/en/about. I'm sure there are plenty of other choices but it does what I need. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask wha

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

2015-01-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
nguage can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/arch

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 484 syntax: NONONONONONONO!

2015-02-01 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: [Python-Dev] (no subject)

2015-02-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
Antoine. Highly recommended as effectively zero spam. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 370 - per-user scripts directory on Windows

2015-02-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
k what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 370 - per-user scripts directory on Windows

2015-02-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
Satan. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 441 - Improving Python ZIP Application Support

2015-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/02/2015 18:06, Steve Dower wrote: "Go ahead, make my pep." We should make a python-dev t-shirt with this on it :) I'll buy one provided p&p isn't too high :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our

Re: [Python-Dev] Emit SyntaxWarning on unrecognized backslash escapes?

2015-02-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
xt". He has no ideas what happen. Isn't this why users have help desks? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 489: Redesigning extension module loading

2015-03-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: [Python-Dev] Guarantee ordered dict literals in v3.7?

2017-11-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
umber of questions from newbies going off of the Richter scale? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Guido's Python 1.0.0 Announcement from 27 Jan 1994

2018-01-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
ar to organise the 25th birthday party. The exact time and place for the party will obviously have to be discussed on python-ideas, or do we need a new mailing list? :-) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Law

Re: [Python-Dev] Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2

2015-05-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
repeating what Raymond said further up this subthread two hours and one minute before you didn't say it :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ P

Re: [Python-Dev] RM for 3.6?

2015-06-01 Thread Mark Lawrence
ly as RM for 3.6: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/ Does he know already? The suck^H^H^H^H man even volunteered! Was that "volunteered" as in RM or the Comfy Chair? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Re: [Python-Dev] Unable to build regex module against Python 3.5 32-bit

2015-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
want libpython??.a. This http://bugs.python.org/issue24385 should interest you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Obtaining stack-frames from co-routine objects

2015-06-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
r you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
statement for some threads. Gently putting the OP down with a firm but polite "it ain't gonna happen" would save a lot of time all around. Just my £0.02p worth. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
n do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
ith. Regards Antoine. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
can't keep discussions cordial, friendly, and on-point on this list and prevent this sort of debacle from occurring again. +infinity -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence _

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/07/2015 00:06, ISAAC J SCHWABACHER wrote: I got to "Daylight Saving Time is a red herring," and stopped reading. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mar

Re: [Python-Dev] Burning down the backlog.

2015-07-26 Thread Mark Lawrence
t the more time we spend assisting Cannon, Coghlan & Co on the core workflow, the quicker, in the medium to long term, we put the backlog of issues to bed. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
n do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
code such as. timedelta(days=14) Is somebody now going to tell me that this isn't actually two weeks? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailin

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 28/07/2015 03:15, Tim Peters wrote: [Mark Lawrence ] To me a day is precisely 24 hours, no more, no less. I have no interest in messing about with daylight savings of 30 minutes, one hour, two hours or any other variant that I've not heard about. In my mission critical code, which I u

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 28/07/2015 06:21, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: To me a day is precisely 24 hours, no more, no less. OK. In my mission critical code, which I use to predict my cashflow, I use code such as. timedelta(days=14) Is somebody now going to tell

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
true. In my real world it is. We clearly have parallel worlds. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.py

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 28/07/2015 13:35, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: One week == 7 days == 7 * 24 hours Two weeks = 2 * (one week) Right, and that of course is not true in actual reality. I know you are not interested in DST, but with a timezone that has DST, two

Re: [Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 28/07/2015 16:47, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 28/07/2015 06:21, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: To me a day is precisely 24 hours, no more, no less. In my mission critical code, which I use

[Python-Dev] Issues not responded to.

2015-07-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
medium to longer term, from the simple short term ones, e.g very easy typo fixes? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] What happens of the Python 3.4 branch?

2015-09-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
3.4.5+) will be source code only. How's that? //arry/ Sorry but Sunday October 13th doesn't suit me, how about Sunday October 11th or Sunday October 18th? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Re: [Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
failures when a full release comes out strikes me as below the belt when there have been multiple previous releases without a squeak. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence __

Re: [Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-20 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 19/09/2015 06:38, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Lawrence writes: > I agree very strongly with your point here. Raising umpteen issues > over installation failures when a full release comes out strikes me > as below the belt when there have been multiple previous releases

Re: [Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-28 Thread Mark Lawrence
or anyone interested although this http://bugs.python.org/issue3871 mingw issue is closed, it points to four other issues. In total there are around 25 mingw issues open. Maybe some of the work done on them can be tied up with the work that Carl Kleffner has done? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
cs™ be unique in the programming world? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: [Python-Dev] "python.exe is not a valid Win32 app"

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Lawrence
stions such as this. However Python 3.5 is *NOT* supported on XP. Work has been done for 3.5.1 to improve the user experience in this scenario. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4 musings (was Re: Deleting with setting C API functions)

2015-12-02 Thread Mark Lawrence
we have a PEP on this please, otherwise there's likely to be a great deal of confusion between hand grenade style counting, and the faculty rules at the University of Walamaloo. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Re: [Python-Dev] New poll about a macro for safe reference replacing

2015-12-21 Thread Mark Lawrence
he compiler/IDE will let you know pretty quick if you put an integer vs a PyObject* there. Cheers, Steve Or Py_SAFEREF or SAFE_REF? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence __

Re: [Python-Dev] Speeding up CPython 5-10%

2016-02-01 Thread Mark Lawrence
ops support for bytecode in favour of a wordcode-based model (where a is word is 16 bits wide). It also implements an hybrid stack-register virtual machine, and adds a lot of other optimizations. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you

Re: [Python-Dev] The pysandbox project is broken

2013-11-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
mon Big +1s from me to Victor Stinner for his original email and to Simon Cross for this response. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence ___ Python-D

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 428 - pathlib - ready for approval

2013-11-20 Thread Mark Lawrence
the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and ill fated initiatives

2013-11-29 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and ill fated initiatives

2013-11-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
d off as nobody has been sidetracked any further. And yes I'm aware that at times I'm no angel, although I believe I can at least offer mitigating circumstances. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christia

Re: [Python-Dev] General Q&A regarding Python 3, adoption etc.

2014-01-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
g packet or is there a link somewhere? :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Python-Dev] Changing Clinic's output

2014-01-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
e in this case. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubsc

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: PEP 460: Add bytes % args and bytes.format(args) to Python 3.5

2014-01-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
eems to me a clean way to do this. Short term pain, long term gain? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 "complexity"

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
r you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 "complexity" (was RFC: PEP 460: Add bytes...)

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
ep and forces an extra layer of needles semantics" bit come from? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org h

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 "complexity"

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
d?" "It doesn't matter, as long as it's over 5V." //Lennart "That Python 3 battery you sold me blew up when I tried using it". "We've been telling you for years that could happen". "I didn't think you actually meant it". -- My fe

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: PEP 460: Add bytes % args and bytes.format(args) to Python 3.5

2014-01-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
been said, but Terry Reedy attached a proof of concept to issue 3982 which might be worth taking a look at if you haven't yet done so. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 "complexity"

2014-01-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
s these days, preferring to guess what they've got instead? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 460: allowing %d and %f and mojibake

2014-01-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
e conversion flags are currently supported: '!s' which calls str() on the value, '!r' which calls repr() and '!a' which calls ascii()". -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 460: allowing %d and %f and mojibake

2014-01-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
as, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 460: allowing %d and %f and mojibake

2014-01-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
://github.com/jeamland/asciicompat [2] the dbf and pdf folks, at least -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org h

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 460 reboot and a bitter fight

2014-01-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
at these PEP 460 threads are? Note that I'm *NOT* taking sides here, I'd just like to see a peaceful settlement without any bloodshed :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence __

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 460 reboot

2014-01-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
est things about python-dev, that discussions like these never degenerate into flamewars. Kudos to all concerned! +1 -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-D

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 460 reboot

2014-01-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
I can't get that to work. :-( I believe you wanted this. >>> a='01234567890123456' >>> len(a) 17 >>> b = '%15.15s' % a >>> b;len(b) '012345678901234' 15 -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask n

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461 - Adding % and {} formatting to bytes

2014-01-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
form, or regarding this debate have they been safely booted into touch? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461 - Adding % and {} formatting to bytes

2014-01-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
ced in 3.2, but I couldn't find anything in the What's New and there's no note in the docs http://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#printf-style-string-formatting to indicate when it first came into play. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask w

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461 - Adding % and {} formatting to bytes

2014-01-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
ious what it does. I'm against __ascii__ as I'd automatically associate that with ascii in the same way that I associate str with __str__ and repr with __repr__. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461 - Adding % and {} formatting to bytes

2014-01-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
1 or 2. Eric. For both options 1 and 2 surely you cannot be suggesting that after people have written 2.x code to use format() as %f formatting is to be deprecated, they now have to change the code back to the way they may well have written it in the first place?

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461 - Adding % and {} formatting to bytes

2014-01-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 17/01/2014 15:41, Ethan Furman wrote: On 01/17/2014 07:15 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: For both options 1 and 2 surely you cannot be suggesting that after people have written 2.x code to use format() as %f formatting is to be deprecated %f formatting is not deprecated, and will not be in 3

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461 Final?

2014-01-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
could cause problems in the future as b is used in new style formatting to mean output numbers in binary, so %B seems to me the obvious choice as it's also unused. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mar

Re: [Python-Dev] str.rreplace

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/01/2014 16:32, Ram Rachum wrote: Question: Why is there no str.rreplace in Python? It's not needed. Is this *REALLY* relevant to this list? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Law

Re: [Python-Dev] str.rreplace

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
kages or newbie questions on the *MAIN* Python mailing list. There's yet another reason to bring back the death penalty in the UK. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence __

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 marketing document?

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
sk not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] str.rreplace

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/01/2014 22:44, Brian Curtin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 24/01/2014 17:19, Ram Rachum wrote: Hmm, on one hand I understand the need for the separation between python-dev and python-list, but on the other hand I don't think python-list is a good

Re: [Python-Dev] str.rreplace

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/01/2014 22:56, Brian Curtin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 24/01/2014 22:44, Brian Curtin wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 24/01/2014 17:19, Ram Rachum wrote: Hmm, on one hand I understand the need for the

Re: [Python-Dev] Negative times behaviour in itertools.repeat for Python maintenance releases (2.7, 3.3 and maybe 3.4)

2014-01-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
xcept an int. The docs don't say anything about using None, except in the "equivalent to" section, which is also the only place where it looks as if times can be a keyword argument. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for

Re: [Python-Dev] Negative times behaviour in itertools.repeat for Python maintenance releases (2.7, 3.3 and maybe 3.4)

2014-01-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
quot; in Python 3.5. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscrib

Re: [Python-Dev] python 3 niggle: None < 1 raises TypeError

2014-02-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
an do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461: Adding % formatting to bytes and bytearray -- Final, Take 2

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/02/2014 02:30, Ethan Furman wrote: +be any more of a nuisance than the already existing methdods. Typo "methdods". -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 461: Adding % formatting to bytes and bytearray -- Final, Take 2

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
%a? I placed it under your nose https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-January/131636.html but personally I wouldn't lose any sleep whether it stays or goes. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --

Re: [Python-Dev] Cherry-pick between Python 3.4 RC2 and final?

2014-03-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
Will this impact on the decision http://bugs.python.org/issue20846 ? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://w

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4: don't remove anything, don't break backward compatibility

2014-03-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4: don't remove anything, don't break backward compatibility

2014-03-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
llow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Python-Dev mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 4: don't remove anything, don't break backward compatibility

2014-03-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: [Python-Dev] OP_NO_COMPRESSION

2014-03-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
ot what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@py

Re: [Python-Dev] issue with itertools leads the crash

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Lawrence
s/pep-0373/ the final release of 2.7 is scheduled to be 2.7.9 in May 2015. Did you mean to say that 2.7 isn't getting new features? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses

Re: [Python-Dev] Python "2migr8"

2014-04-14 Thread Mark Lawrence
th the grate part. Failing that, how about a play on 2 + 8 = ache? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is a

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial sluggishness (was: this is what happens if you freeze all the modules required for startup)

2014-04-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
Antoine. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition. Except those who expect Python 2.8? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Ant

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 469: Restoring the iterkeys/values/items() methods

2014-04-20 Thread Mark Lawrence
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Re: [Python-Dev] Language Summit Follow-Up

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Lawrence
hon 2 support is still infinitely more important than Python 3. -Mark What is the point of flogging a horse that's been dead for so long that it's already down to a skeleton? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language.

Re: [Python-Dev] Internal representation of strings and Micropython

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
idn't make somebody's day dull! -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus pro

Re: [Python-Dev] Internal representation of strings and Micropython

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Lawrence
view of them. Could this actually be implemented in the future, is the underlying C code just too complicated, or what? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because av

Re: [Python-Dev] Internal representation of strings and Micropython

2014-06-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 04/06/2014 16:52, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 04/06/2014 16:32, Steve Dower wrote: If copying into a separate list is a problem (memory-wise), re.finditer('\\S+', string) also provides the same behaviour and gives me the sliced string, so there's no need to index for anything.

Re: [Python-Dev] Internal representation of strings and Micropython

2014-06-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 06/06/2014 09:53, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: On 06/04/2014 05:52 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 04/06/2014 16:32, Steve Dower wrote: If copying into a separate list is a problem (memory-wise), re.finditer('\\S+', string) also provides the same behaviour and gives me the sliced string, so

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

2014-06-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
possible to use hex digits, such that 2.7.A was the first release on Windows with the different compiler? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows XP, Python 3.5 and PEP 11

2014-06-17 Thread Mark Lawrence
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