[Python-Dev] Pycon and Randall Munroe

Whoever thought this one up [1], thank you for making me almost choke on my meal due to laughing fits. :-) [1] http://pycon.blogspot.com/2009/02/randall-munroe.html -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG

Re: [Python-Dev] A suggestion: Do proto-PEPs in Google Docs

. [1] http://etherpad.com/ -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Attention Bazaar mirror users

-On [20090221 21:30], Barry Warsaw (ba...@python.org) wrote: >I think no matter what DVCS gets chosen Isn't that getting ahead of the game? I thought that the choice whether or not a DVCS gets chosen is part of that PEP? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デ

Re: [Python-Dev] Formatting mini-language suggestion

rg/ -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Any road leads to the end of the world... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/m

Re: [Python-Dev] Evaluated cmake as an autoconf replacement

cision if you care for my opinion. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B I must be cruel, only to be kind... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] http://bugs.python.org/issue2240

model for its threading. Are the tests going ok there? If so, then I shouldn't worry about the 6 branch. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Few are those who see with their own eyes a

[Python-Dev] py3k build erroring out on fileio?

: don't know how to make ./Modules/_fileio.c. Stop [Will log an issue if it turns out to, indeed, be a problem with the tree and not me.] -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Forgive u

Re: [Python-Dev] py3k build erroring out on fileio?

-On [20090409 15:41], Benjamin Peterson (benja...@python.org) wrote: >It seems your Makefile is outdated. We moved the _fileio.c module >around a few days, so maybe you just need a make distclean. Yes, that was the cause. Thanks Benjamin. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン

[Python-Dev] UTF-8 Decoder

[Note: I haven't looked thoroughly at our handling yet, so hence I raise the question.] This got posted on the Unicode list, does it seem interesting for Python itself, the UTF-8 to UTF-16 transcoding might be? http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de/utf-8/decoder/dfa/ -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der W

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue5434: datetime.monthdelta

be available as a module >outside of Python so people can beat on it, flush out bugs, make suggestions >for enhancements, whatever. I think people should look at mx.DateTime a bit, including its documentation. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン ht

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383: Non-decodable Bytes in System Character Interfaces

forts, which includes contributions to Unicode. Aside from that I also have the fair share of audio files which have the names/descriptions in the respective script (Thai, Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese, and so on). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.

Re: [Python-Dev] UTF-8 Decoder

interesting, but the tiny case (just Bjoern's name) is quite a tad bit slower. The other cases seems more typical of what the average use in Python would be. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625

Re: [Python-Dev] a suggestion ... Re: PEP 383 (again)

t;.") >['x'] That is actually a regression in 3.x: Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Mar 8 2009, 11:36:21) >>> import os >>> open("x","w").close() >>> open(b"\xff","w").close() >>> os.listdir(".") [

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 382: Namespace Packages

I use. The only ones that spring to mind are the mx.* and ll.* packages. The rest simply create their own namespace as .*, but there's nothing that uses that same namespace and installs separately from the base package that I know of. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロ

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 382: Namespace Packages

tw.*, >themerubber.*, themetweaker.*, zc.*, z3c.*, zgeo.*, z3ext.*, etc. Can be fairly said, though, that the majority of those you just named are related to Zope? That would explain why I won't know of them as I avoid Zope like the plague. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルー

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 382: Namespace Packages

f course. If correct, which is it? >More fool you... Maybe, used/worked with it and don't care for it one iota. But that's a whole different discussion. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EA

Re: [Python-Dev] Switchover: mail.python.org

pparently different now. So people might want to adjust any filtering. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B The reverse side also has a reverse side... _

Re: [Python-Dev] Switchover: mail.python.org

te-wide, just for python-checkins AFAICT. Yes, the current batches are arriving with personilization again. I don't mind either way, just thought a heads up was warranted. ;) Thanks Barry, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 376 : Changing the .egg-info structure

be large enough, you could always settle for SHA1. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B What's one man's poison, is another's meat or drink... __

Re: [Python-Dev] ndPython: I NEED TO TALK WITH ONE OF THE PYTHON CORE

en I want to save game data. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Friendship is love without wings... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] "Absolute" paths in PEP 376 RECORD files

'mac': '/Application/right/here'} > ... > ) As an aside: Where i18n above would sooner be called 'locale' rather than i18n, since i18n is only providing software functionality for supporting localization. So in that sense L10n would be better, but locale

Re: [Python-Dev] hi everyone

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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144: IP Address Manipulation Library for the Python Standard Library

as one /23. I realise some might be answered by the last paragraph of your PEP, but it would be nice to know what you consider essential and what not. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B The

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144: IP Address Manipulation Library for the Python Standard Library

-On [20090820 20:19], Peter Moody (pe...@hda3.com) wrote: >I've updated the pep with lots of examples; most of the stuff you're >asking for is already supported, I just didn't do a good job >explaining it. A few things are pending review. Thanks for that Peter! -- Jeroe

Re: [Python-Dev] Setting up a buildbot

-On [20090822 21:30], Paul Moore (p.f.mo...@gmail.com) wrote: >I've just had a look on python.org, but couldn't immediately see a >pointer to instructions on what the process is to set up a buildbot. http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot comes to mind. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der W

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Encrypted Zip as python scripts

ys they can just include all the relevant bits in the repository. So I wonder how applicable the entire US export restriction still is nowadays. In short: I don't think we have much to worry about. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.

Re: [Python-Dev] Fast Implementation for ZIP decryption

d eggs count? For example, SQLAlchemy runs in the 5 MB range. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B All for one, one for all... ___ Python-Dev mailing lis

Re: [Python-Dev] Package install failures in 2.6.3

SVN 1.x support, which have been open for more than a year. Personally I consider setuptools unmaintained and have started moving my projects over to Distribute. So, if you decide to wait, make sure to put a deadline on it. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェル

Re: [Python-Dev] PYTHON3PATH

heard of either or both.) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B For ever, brother, hail and farewell... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-D

Re: [Python-Dev] Add UTC to 2.7 (PyCon sprint idea)

ell. And that will probably mean Mac OS X as well, if they stuck to what FreeBSD had in place for that. Can anyone verify that? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Anything becomes possible,

Re: [Python-Dev] Add UTC to 2.7 (PyCon sprint idea)

uigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B When you pass through, no one can pin you down, no one can call you back... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] Update xml.etree.ElementTree for Python 2.7 and 3.2

at tree hasn't been touched in over three years. I can understand giving special consideration to maintainers, but that would imply they actually maintain something, no? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.o

Re: [Python-Dev] Update xml.etree.ElementTree for Python 2.7 and 3.2

r Python users at all. Especially since patches *are* available. If Frederik has problems with that he should have put a bit more effort into maintaining it in the first place. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.or

Re: [Python-Dev] Update xml.etree.ElementTree for Python 2.7 and 3.2

quite imminent, but of course, that's my interpretation of things. >Well, I promised that we will stick to the procedure when integrating >ElementTree. I'm not willing to break this promise. Honourable and I can understand that. Although it doesn't make it flexible to work on.

[Python-Dev] ffi junk messages

er is `@' Modules/_ctypes/libffi/src/x86/sysv.S:423: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `@' -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Tattva, achintya bhed

Re: [Python-Dev] ffi junk messages

ompile ctypes using --with-system-ffi at least. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Grabbing at angels when I fall, for all my demons to applaud, I am free... ___

Re: [Python-Dev] ffi junk messages

dy else might >have access to the platform, and the knowledge about the platform details. No it is not actually. Mark and me found the culprit in the Python tree. Commit incoming. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://ww

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 376

xample, have quite some different hier(7) requirements, most notably that /usr/local is used. So is your intent to have a PEP solely for Linux systems? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B A wi

Re: [Python-Dev] code.python.org - random 403 errors

copy clone as you like. (At least that's also how http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mercurial/Getting_Started seems to aim at explaining.) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B A wise

Re: [Python-Dev] Enhanced tracker privileges for "dangerjim" to do triage.

kely, as well as doing so, as changing the default is likely to be a >longer discussion...) Be careful. Trackers are often hit by spam bots which change random form field values. I cannot from memory recall whether or not we had this issue on either the tracker tracker or Python's tracke

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

or benefit, not even for training (and since you're going to set up a training environment anyway, it can only be described as lazy if you are adamant on having it included in the base distribution). Just my EUR 0,02. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェ

Re: [Python-Dev] mingw support?

losed OS can cope with also using the free-as-in-beer >closed compiler provided by the vendor of that OS. You don't even need VS Express. Install Windows SDK 7.1 and the compilers are supplied with it. Less clutter if you prefer the command line. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / as

Re: [Python-Dev] mingw support?

to be the case. I have not tried it myself (yet). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love

Re: [Python-Dev] i18n

Python? Personally I think it would be much more valuable if the Python documentation had some volunteers working on it to get it translated to their own language. Just my EUR 0,05. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.ranga

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: i18n

5.htm Oracle: en_US: ORA-00942: table or view does not exist ja_JP: ORA-00942: 表またはビューが存在しません。 -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B When you meet a master in the street, do not speak, do n

Re: [Python-Dev] issue 9807 - a glitch in coexisting builds of different types

.[0-9] pattern in order to be added to the hints file." So ending a shared object with the build flags will cause problems on FreeBSD and probably the other BSDs (DragonFly, NetBSD, OpenBSD) and most likely Mac OS X as well. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェ

Re: [Python-Dev] issue 9807 - a glitch in coexisting builds of different types

k using the standard way. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Looking for the Sun that eclipsed behind black feathered wings... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Py

Re: [Python-Dev] issue 9807 - a glitch in coexisting builds of different types

build? Install in the same place. So you either install a debug build or a stripped build. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives th

Re: [Python-Dev] python.org going down?

. It's hosted by XS4All, they had some network problems yesterday at least. I am not sure if it would explain this behaviour, might be one of the uplinks or peers had some issues. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.ranga

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

y dislike the Perl-esque -m stuff. >I just wanted to make sure that once distutils2 is back in the stdlib, >it's OK for us to add that script in the distribution. No problem from my side, I do, however, not speak for the developers at large of course. ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

/bin? If so, how would it look like for multiple Python distributions that are installed? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B To the dull mind nature is leaden. To the illumined mind the whole worl

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable build slaves authority

DK to build Python. Sorry Martin, haven't had the time at work to test the latest trunks out with just the SDK. I'll see if I can free some time for that in the coming days. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

of those BSD Python users/coders and would like to resolve any issues. By default FreeBSD 7, at least, has limits on semaphores and the likes, but those can be expanded. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG:

Re: [Python-Dev] "Too many open files" errors on "x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x" buildbot

e for dynamic tweaking. On my 8.1 machine: nexus% sudo sysctl -w p1003_1b.sem_nsems_max=31 p1003_1b.sem_nsems_max: 30 -> 32 7.x is hardlocked at the moment unless someone manually edits the file to up the SEM_MAX define. The same goes for FreeBSD 8.0. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van d

Re: [Python-Dev] User's complaints

e what people are reporting to me as their top 3 or 5 Python complaints though. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] User's complaints

On 7/13/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/12/06, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you very much for your feedback. It helps. With apologies in advance if my own level of understanding is, of course, lacking of advanced construct

Re: [Python-Dev] User's complaints

emantics, etc.). Personally, he doesn't care *too* much about newbie safety since he's not a newbie. To quote verbatim: "give me the big guns :-)" And while we're at it, he also stated: "[...] add multiple dispatch to your list of improvements for Python&q

Re: [Python-Dev] Community buildbots (was Re: User's complaints)

what Bitten (http://bitten.cmlenz.net/) has implemented for Trac (which is one of the bug/incident trackers for Python's call for trackers). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] Community buildbots (was Re: User's complaints)

an example. > We do know how to run a buildbot. How relevant was this comment in the entire? I am merely trying to help out here pointing out other similar projects when the community participating building issue was raised. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven _

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 11: Dropping support for ten year old systems

L and the future. Also, with regard to Windows 2000, XP and its APIs. Didn't XP already switch a bunch of APIs around that 2000 doesn't use? (Need to find that migration document.) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | htt

Re: [Python-Dev] Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

rsion of choice. Not sure what either OpenBSD or DragonFly BSD are doing, but it will be along these lines as well. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B Ain't g

Re: [Python-Dev] Syntax suggestion for imports

oen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ In every stone sleeps a crystal... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: [Python-Dev] Syntax suggestion for imports

attr def itemgetter(name): def _getitem(obj): return obj[name] return _getitem Masking functions if a particular function is not found: try: from base64 import b64decode except ImportError: from base64 import decodestring as b64decode -- Jeroen Ruigrok

[Python-Dev] Contributing to Python

tation? Is there a reason that it thinned out? I'm asking since I never really dove into the Python project much aside from using Python here and there, but I seem to get a career using Python almost full-time so perhaps there are things I, and I am sure others, can step up to help out. -- Je

Re: [Python-Dev] Contributing to Python

I am assumign that most of those contributions code-wise need a fair amount of knowledge of Python's internals? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Mayoi nagara de

Re: [Python-Dev] Backport threading.py fix to 2.5.2?

g reports anything that gets rid of unnecessary bug reports is a good change to backport in my opinion. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Light-in-Darkness, lift me up from here...

Re: [Python-Dev] Syntax suggestion for imports

ction in the first place. Because you would have to import it as well in order to use it? ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Taxation without representation is tyranny... __

Re: [Python-Dev] Extend reST spec to allow automatic recognition of identifiers in comments?

tandard encoding for Python files, have you thought about the half-width and full-width characters like the ones you describe above? 「」 are, for example, very common in Japanese where English would use quotes. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.i

Re: [Python-Dev] test_sys failures

ing special" print text.encode(sys.stdout.encoding or getpreferredencoding() or 'ascii', 'replace') This is how we currently use it within Babel as well for printing the locale list. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine

Re: [Python-Dev] pkgutil, pkg_resource and Python 3.0 name space packages

(former My Music) C:\Users\\Pictures (former My Pictures) C:\Users\\Videos (former My Videos) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Vae victis! ___ P

[Python-Dev] docs.python.org

. docs.python.org is the 3rd result from Google too by the way.) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Want ik kan niet leven zonder alles of niets... ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] docs.python.org

oo similar in colour, plus the dotted line beneath the URL disappears against the white background. In that aspect docs.python.org/dev/ is a step up. >Various links on the top page of docs.python.org have become outdated, >though; I've gone through the page and updated or removed them.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: per user site-packages directory

on of Python now more and more as a choice for webapp development. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ The greatest of faults, I should say, is to be conscious of

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: per user site-packages directory

r, the correct variable to talk about is HOME (see IEEE Std 1003.1, 2004 section 2.5.3 and 2.6.1). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. -

Re: [Python-Dev] #! magic (was PEP: per user site-packages directory)

fined in the System Interfaces volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001. If the first line of a file of shell commands starts with the characters "#!", the results are unspecified. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku

Re: [Python-Dev] #! magic

rk, FreeBSD uses /usr/local/bin since Python is installed through ports and is not a system binary. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Every revolution was first

Re: [Python-Dev] #! magic

herwise, the name of the originally execve'd file becomes the first argument. The original argu- ments are shifted over to become the subsequent arguments. The zeroth argument is set to the specified interpreter. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://w

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: per user site-packages directory

the string and expand that to the initial working directory of said login name string. HOME is POSIX-mandated to be '[t]he pathname of the user's home directory'. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP: per user site-packages directory

ave not had the time available to verify all cases Christian reported versus what I can think of. Impending surgery tends to distract the mind a bit. ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Where does

Re: [Python-Dev] trunc()

ew 2 != 2.0? And that results such as the above would be a regression and loss in precision? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We have met the enemy and they are ours... _

Re: [Python-Dev] trunc()

havior to me as a person not involved in the discussion. +1 from my side for the above. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We have met the enemy and they are ours... __

Re: [Python-Dev] Organization of ABC modules

han all these odd looking pre- or suffixes. (I am not charmed about ABC in the name at all to be honest, doesn't really give me a Python feeling.) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ W

Re: [Python-Dev] refleaks and caches

list, while others need less. It is possible that self-tuning the list size could be more efficient." -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We have met the enemy a

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect documentation of the raw_input built-in function

d in their sections. Other utilities shall not write to standard error if they complete successfully, unless the implementation provides some sort of extension to increase the verbosity or debugging level. The format descriptions are intended to be sufficiently rigorous to allow post-processing o

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect documentation of the raw_input built-in function

-On [20080128 19:51], Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >I cannot find anything explicitly in favour of or against this in POSIX. The >stuff quoted below is what I could find. I do not think there's a hard >mandate either way, but from my experience of

Re: [Python-Dev] Incorrect documentation of the raw_input built-in function

rd to prompting or other such descriptions. So, don't count on POSIX to mandate anything on this (as far as I can tell). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We have met the enemy and they are ours...

Re: [Python-Dev] Any Emacs tips for core developers?

eady have material on vim and/or textmate? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We have met the enemy and they are ours... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python

Re: [Python-Dev] Get rid of strerror.c and memmove.c?

e AM1 from 1994 for multibyte support anyway (so effectively C94). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We have met the enemy and they are ours... ___ Python-Dev ma

[Python-Dev] Small configure typo?

With zsh when I try to autocomplete the ./configure options I get this: _arguments:comparguments:303: invalid option definition: --enable-universalsdk[SDKDIR][Build against Mac OS X 10.4u SDK (ppc/i386)] Should this be: --enable-universalsdk[=SDKDIR] ? (Note the = ) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der

[Python-Dev] __new__ deprecation

eroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself. -Chinese Proverb ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] __new__ deprecation

-On [20080213 21:02], Guido van Rossum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >What __new__ deprecation warning? Yes, sorry, I realized after sending that it might be a bit obtuse. With 2.6: DeprecationWarning: object.__new__() takes no parameters return object.__new__(cls, uri) -- Jeroen Ruigrok

Re: [Python-Dev] Small RFEs and the Bug Tracker

P: -1 tracker: +1 -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ But Time, keeps flowing like a river (on and on)... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.p

Re: [Python-Dev] Small RFEs and the Bug Tracker

g tracker you have or an issue tracker? If the former, agreed, if the latter then it makes sense to track RFEs in the tracker. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ And every word upon your spiralling cross is but

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

-On [20080224 19:57], "Martin v. Löwis" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >I can continue to provide Windows binaries if desired. If need be, I can help testing the build infrastructure since I have access to various releases of Visual Studio as well. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven /

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

-On [20080225 16:02], Christian Heimes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >For the MSI installers you also need Python 2.5, your pywin32 package >and some additional tools like the help compiler and cabarc.exe. Have you looked at http://wix.sourceforge.net/ ? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Python 2.6 and 3.0

-On [20080225 23:03], "Martin v. Löwis" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >No, I still haven't found a solution. I do want to use the merge >module; anything else probably isn't going to work. I updated the ticket with some links to how to approach this issue. -- Jer

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

The above is a bit heavy on the Linux (glibc) side and will not really expose problems on that front aside from the commercial Solaris and OS X. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ The spirit indeed is wil

Re: [Python-Dev] February bug day outcome

ask some people for appropriate access. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ We shape clay into a pot, but it is the emptiness inside that holds whatever we want... ___ P

Re: [Python-Dev] No releases tonight

ne in Japanese, Chinese and Korean. For Portuguese I guess we could ask the ASync guys in Brazil, they're huge Python users with their work for Canonical/Ubuntu. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ There c

Re: [Python-Dev] Auto-Assignment

would need to be a component entry as such. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ Absence makes the heart grow fonder... ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pyth

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