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>
Those two expressions are equivalent for integers, but not necessarily
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wrote:
> OK, so I can make assumptions only for built-in types.
>
Yes, but even there you have to be careful of odd corner-cases, such as:
>>> nan = float('nan')
>>> nan < nan
False
>>> nan >
ave been rewritten (which happens more often than the
> complete rewrite).
>
A slight change would make it work for modules where only key functions have
been rewritten. For example, pickle.py could read:
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Python 3.0." If user.py
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or all of you be at PyCon? I'd be willing to put in the extra work
to turn your notes into a PEP.
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s and writes are not necessary.
On Windows, sockets, pipes, and files are each completely distinct types
with their own functions and unifying them under one select()-like interface
requires faking it using threads behind-the-scenes AFAIK. Personally, I'd
be happy with continuing to only suppo
ickling, but wouldn't
solve Michael's problem as, without memo, each pickle would still need to
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On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM, wrote:
> Anybody interested in working on this at a PyCon Sprint? I won't be
> attending the conference proper, but plan to spend a couple days sprinting,
>
I'll be there and interested. :)
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ilename() # good luck
file.__init__(self.tmp_name, flags)
def close(self):
self.flush()
os.fsync(self.fileno())
self.close()
os.rename(self.tmp_name, self.path) # won't work on Windows :-(
then we could simply:
with appropriate_module.open_for_safe_replacem
tempted to
suggest making these checks only when Py_DEBUG is defined, but I suspect if
you wanted it that way, you would have changed it already. ;)
Assuming you really want the NULL checks in production Python, there are 5
checks for NULL even though there are only two parameters. Seems li
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Daniel Stutzbach <
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
>
>> Agreed, and more importantly, I have yet to be convinced that those NULL
>> checks introduce a measurable slowdown.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> 2009/3/24 Daniel Stutzbach :
> > [...]
> > 100 nanoseconds, py3k trunk:
> > ceval -> PyObject_GetItem (object.c) -> list_subscript (listobject.c) ->
> > PyNumber_AsSsize_t (object.c) -> PyLong_AsS
ticed that if a VERY large hint is returned by the iterator,
list.extend will sometimes disregard the hint and try to allocate memory
incrementally (correct for rule #1 or #2). However, in another code path it
will throw a MemoryError immediately based on the hint (correct for rule
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mps() always returns a string)
def dumpb(obj, encoding='utf-8', *args, **kw):
s = dumps(obj, *args, **kw)
return s.encode(encoding)
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'{\x00}\x00'
json.dumps({}, encoding='utf-16le') # dumps() returns bytes
'{\x00}\x00'
In 2.6, the first one works. The second incorrectly returns '{}'.
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e, will 3rd party code that relies on it fail in
unexpected ways, or will they just get a compile error?
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> LookupError: unknown encoding: uft-8
>
uft-8?
Looks like a variation of Issue 4540 <http://bugs.python.org/issue4540> (or
a duplicate? I can't tell)
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cial, but I don't think we really care this
> much. Opinions?
>
Why does this problem arise only with __enter__ and __exit__?
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can get them in Stackless Python.
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Technicalities aside, I agree with you that IPNetwork appears to be doing
double-duty as an IPNetwork type and an IPAddressWithNetwork type, which I
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>
Network addresses never contain bits that aren't in the mask (due to the
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> RFC 4291 - IPv6 Addressing Architecture
> RFC 4632 - Classless Inter-domain Routing (CIDR): The Internet Address
>
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> particular implementation choice ?
>
The original I/O PEP and some of the code was put together during a sprint
at PyCon 2007. Our primary goal was to get a decent first cut of the new
I/O system put together quickly. For nitty-gritty details and corner-c
"", line 1, in
OSError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor
>>> f.write('blah')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor
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y important (imo, most
> people just want to know if the operation was successful, I don't know if
> many developers scan error codes to act accordingly).
>
I don't often need to check the error code at runtime but seeing the
corresponding message is often critical for debu
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Pascal Chambon wrote:
> *RawIOBase*.readinto(b: bytes) -> int
>
"bytes" are immutable. The signature is:
*RawIOBase*.readinto(b: bytearray) -> int
Your efforts in working on clarifying these important corner cases is
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On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 4:57 PM, DrKJam wrote:
> 2009/9/26 Daniel Stutzbach
>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, DrKJam wrote:
>>
>>> The current version of the PEP and reference implementation do not
>>> mention or deal with IPv4 classful addressing (A,
, IPv4Network objects with distinct IP addresses (but
the same network) could no longer be stored in a dictionary or set. IMO, it
is a little counter-intuitive for objects to compare equal yet have
different properties. I don't think this is a good compromise.
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tiguous
> netmasks are valid, and is dated 2008. Earlier RFCs (950 and 1219)
> give them as valid but discouraged.
>
That's a draft for RFC 5177. In the RFC, all references to non-contiguous
subnets have been removed.
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5177
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Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Apr 15 2009, 07:20:39)
[GCC 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)] on cygwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import fractions
>>> fractio
his discussion has focused too much on the details of ipaddr
(and the false dichotomy of "ipaddr versus nothing"), without properly
tackling the question of "What use-cases for IP addresses are sufficiently
universal* that they belong in the standard library?"
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> If, as I hope, the answer to that is "yes", then I strongly support
> releasing a fixed setuptools instead of reverting the change to Python.
>
How do your propose to get the author of setuptools to release a new
gt;
-1 on 1.
+0 on 2.
It'd be nice if we could postpone the resize if there are active iterators,
but I don't think there's a clean way to track the iterators.
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setting them to None. It zaps them to weakrefs first, which means that
globals are more likely to be valid during __del__, but it still cannot make
any guarantees and referencing globals from __del__ is still a bad idea. Is
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sys.modules with weakrefs
2. Run the garbage collector
3. Replace globals in any remaining modules with None
4. Run the garbage collector
Is it possible for a __del__ method to be called in step 4 or not? I am
still unclear on this point. :-)
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larly when I didn't *intend* to do a million-digits calculation...
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> Daniel Stutzbach stutzbachenterprises.com> writes:
> > I sometimes do million-digits calculations that I want to interrupt using
> Control-C.(particularly when I didn't *intend* to do a million-digits
> calculation.
es a warning
test_const(&const_var);
test_noconst(&noconst_var);
test_noconst(&const_var); // generates a warning
return 0;
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> though.
>
It does. If I recall correctly, in addition to Visual Studio Express, I
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slice to any other thread of equal priority that is ready to run."
(this is not to say that I think the solution with Sleep is worthwhile,
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ly need is syntax compatibility. For
the rest, you can check sys.version_info.
In a nutshell, I don't think you need two branches to support an extension
module on Python 2 and Python 3.
YMMV.
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o forth. The hash table will shrink after the n/2-th removal,
when we have checked 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n/2 = O(n**2) slots for n/2 removals
(or amortized O(n) per removal). It's too late for shrinking to save us;
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ator has to
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> But then, users can easily create as many fake accounts as they want to.
>
Why not do something more robust, then? For example, when a user enters an
OpenID that hasn't been seen by PyPi before, make them enter
happen.
>
That strikes me as a *predictable* long pause.
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> the list itself gets garbage collected.
>
FWIW, for a long-running FIFO queue, it's critical to release some of the
memory along the way, otherwise the amount of wasted memory is unbounded.
Good luck :)
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r "the full Python test suite"?
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o list, you can just erase it;
> no need to recopy the whole list.
>
I don't think your analogy works, unless you recopy your to-do lists
whenever you complete a task in the middle of the list. ;-)
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Steve Howell wrote:
> Fair enough, but that's still wasteful of memory, keeping around a bunch of
> None elements because you can't inexpensively delete them.
>
Even if there are many references to it, there is only one None element.
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n].
That way it doesn't have to regularly allocate and deallocate memory for an
approximately-fixed-length FIFO queue (which Steve's list will need to do).
Raymond's objections are here:
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> Putting the files into a separate dir also makes it much harder to
> work with external tools; e.g. VCSes already ignore .pyc and .pyo
> files, but not unknown directories.
>
Can't a VCS be configured to ignore a .pyr directory just as eas
nounce it
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In CPython, is it safe to cache function pointers that are in type objects?
For example, if I know that some_type->tp_richcompare is non-NULL, and I
call it (which may execute arbitrary user code), can I assume that
some_type->tp_richcompare is still non-NULL?
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a patch to Unladen Swallow, CPython trunk, or CPython py3k?
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> 2010/3/3 Daniel Stutzbach :
> > I think I see a way to dramatically speed up PyObject_RichCompareBool
> when
> > comparing immutable, built-in, non-container objects (int, float, str,
> > etc.). It would speed u
hat it will be a while before the Unladen
Swallow benchmarks can support Python 3, right?
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> import futures
>
+1 on the idea, -1 on the name. It's too similar to "from __future__ import
...".
Also, the PEP should probably link to the discussions on stdlib-sig?
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class named "Future".
Why not name your module "concurrent"? That would eliminate the confusion
with "from __future__". I don't see a problem with keeping the class name.
Plus, a "concurrent" module might be useful for things
cutor instance is then free to do so.
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-GUI async code can just use the ABC and not worry about what event
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like the second approach as well, assuming "interactiveness" can be
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he fix for this
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Michael Foord wrote:
> It should be possible to fix it with a WeakKeyDictionary instead of
> WeakSet.
>
True. I should have said "Backporting WeakSet would make it *easier* to
backport the fix ..." :-)
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opt(socket.SOL_SOCKET, socket.SO_KEEPALIVE, 1)
Most non-trivial applications use select() or poll() to avoid blocking calls
and do their own timeout-checking at the application layer, so they don't
need KEEPALIVE.
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where you are ahead of the current
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rather than going through the slower PyObject_ functions.
Consequently, validating **kwds should be cheap.
I don't know if the the current validating of **kwds with Python functions
already leverages that hack or not.
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> 2010/4/16 Daniel Stutzbach :
> > IIRC, there's a performance hack in dictobject.c that keeps track of
> whether
> > all of the keys are strings or not. The hack is designed so that lookup
> > operations can
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Victor Stinner <
victor.stin...@haypocalc.com> wrote:
> http://bugs.python.org/ displays "Service Temporarily Unavailable". Is it
> normal?
>
It's working fine for me.
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".
I only find the time to produce patches once in awhile, but when I have the
time I usually produce more than one. Assigning bugs to myself will
increase my motivation to write patches, as I will feel that I've made a
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different fields in the bug tracker?
I've read http://www.python.org/dev/workflow/, but it doesn't cover
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document the Resolution or Status fields.
For the Keywords field, the page only documents the "easy" keyword.
Also, some of the headings in the page are enclosed in square brackets,
while others are not. It's not clear to me what the brackets are intended
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ish debug builds, profiling
builds, Unicode width (see issue8654), and probably several other
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>
> $ hg clone pytrunk-upstream pytrunk-work
> $ ./configure && make
>
My question is basically the same as Terry Reedy's, but I'm going to phrase
it a bit differently:
This is perhaps a naive question, but why do you create a second local clone
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-June/100583.html
On the flip side, a fully enumerated ABI signature could be used to identify
(in)compatible binary eggs, which is basically impossible now.
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ential if you
> want to take a profililng snapshot of a running application.
>
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y inline except using MSC
http://bugs.python.org/issue2521 - ABC caches should use weak refs
http://bugs.python.org/issue808164 - socket.close() doesn't play well
with __del__
Many more in the pipeline :-)
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on it in some way. Perhaps in time there will be some piece of Python
that I've modified so heavily that I become ipso facto the primary
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On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:47 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> Please send me your SSH key.
Done.
I have also subscribed to python-committers and python-checkins. I
will add my interests to Misc/maintainers.rst. Are there any other
initial start-up tasks I should perform?
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XP/Cygwin system and did not see the shared folder
icon in Explorer.
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same
version of the C library.
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On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Victor Stinner wrote:
> But I didn't found any doc for other Py_UNICODE_str*()
> functions in Doc/c-api/*.rst.
>
http://bugs.python.org/issue8649 - Py_UNICODE_* functions are undocumented
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larger query, plus there
are multiple functions that want to talk to the cache.
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ature.
-1 on removing the feature
-0 on making it disabled by default
[1] I know that some large, long-running programs periodically check
gc.garbage and carefully choose where to break cycles, but those are the
exception and not the rule.
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