Re: [Python-Dev] Subversion 1.5 and better merge support

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Subversion 1.5 solves the "repeated merge" problem. At last!!. >> >> Somebody is considerin

Re: [Python-Dev] Warnings for intra-package imports

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just reading up on PEP 328. In the "Timeline" section, it > mentions that intra-package imports should raise a DeprecationWarning > in 2.6. This doesn't seem to be implemented currently. > > Is this still the pla

Re: [Python-Dev] critical issues for 2.6 and 3.0

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just went through the disturbingly long list of 67 open issues with > a "critical" priority pinging and trying to get things moving. There > are ~55 now; I was able to close some, but others I promoted to > release bl

[Python-Dev] Looking for the email addresses of some committers

If someone can email me the addresses for the following committers, I would appreciate it: * Greg Stein * Jackilyn Hoxworth * Jeff Senn * John Benediktsson * Mateusz Rukowicz * Richard Emslie * Roy Smith And if any of the above people no longer want commit privileges or were only given them tempo

[Python-Dev] What to do with uuid?

I was running the test suite and I noticed test_uuid's warning message is still up: test_uuid WARNING: uuid.getnode is unreliable on many platforms. It is disabled until the code and/or test can be fixed properly. WARNING: uuid._ifconfig_getnode is unreliable on many platforms.

[Python-Dev] new mailing list: python-committers

I figured I would send out a quick email to let people know of the existence of a new mailing list: python-committers (http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers) so that no one thinks something sneaky is going on behind the scenes. It is invite-only, but publicly archived. The poin

Re: [Python-Dev] Py3k tasks spreadsheet

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Welcome to python-3000! > >> How up to date is this? > > Probably way out of date. It isn't "probably", is just is. =) > The best way to find tasks is to go to the tracker (bugs.python.org) and > search > for i

Re: [Python-Dev] Milestones in IronPython

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Curt Hagenlocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We reached an important milestone in the IronPython project this week > with the release of IronPython 2.0 beta 4. But it's not our code that > makes this release so remarkable -- it's yours, the Python developers. > Fo

Re: [Python-Dev] Merges from 2.6 to 3.0?

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:37 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Guido> However if you think your change requires any kind of manual help >Guido> to be merged, it's better to do the merge yourself for just that >Guido> revision: svnmerge.py merge -rN. That way it'll be recorded >G

[Python-Dev] Dealing with mimetools usage in the stdlib

On my quest to remove warnings raised in 2.6 when Python is run with -3, the issue of dealing with mimetools has come up in terms of backwards-compatibility. For instance, in BaseHTTPServer, the headers attribute on BaseHTTPRequestHandler is an instance of mimetools.Message. But in 3.0 it is an ins

Re: [Python-Dev] Dealing with mimetools usage in the stdlib

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Adam Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On my quest to remove warnings raised in 2.6 when Python is run with >> -3, the issue of dealing with mimetools has come

Re: [Python-Dev] Maintaining old releases

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There's a difference between never being released, and unavailable in >> the source repository. > > So would you have preferred if I had forked another branch that still > contained these patches? Such branch can still

[Python-Dev] Looking for an up-to-date address for john.benediktsson

I was going through our list of email addreses for committers and realized that I don't have an address for john.benediktsson that works; his ewtllc.com address is bouncing. Anyone have an up-to-date one? -Brett ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] parse_qs and parse_qsl functions

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > The issue 600362 has two patches (one for 2.6 and the other for 3.0) > that are ready to commit (with a small change in the docs). This > patches relocates the parse_qs and parse_qsl functions into the > urlparse

[Python-Dev] Where are universal newlines handled in the parser/compiler?

If you import a module that uses '\r\n' line endings, Python does the right thing. But if you read in the bytes for the same file and then pass it to compile() you get an unhelpful syntax error pointing at a blank line. Normally I would say one should just open the source file as 'r' instead of 'r

Re: [Python-Dev] A Testing language Construct that could also be a Distributed programming construct - How can this be done in Python

This is the wrong mailing list to ask this question; python-dev is for discussing the design of the language. General help questions should go to comp.lang.python. On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Saravanan Shanmugham (sarvi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am using Python as a test language and wo

[Python-Dev] Think a dead import finding script would be handy?

After Christian mentioned how we could speed up interpreter start-up by removing some dead imports he found, I decided to write up a quick script that generates the AST for a source file and (very roughly) tries to find imports that are never used. People think it's worth tossing into Tools, even i

Re: [Python-Dev] Think a dead import finding script would be handy?

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon schrieb: >> After Christian mentioned how we could speed up interpreter start-up >> by removing some dead imports he found, I decided to write up a quick >> script that generates th

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> The import statement seems to work from an interactive shell (I have a >> module named test in the same directory as the main prog, hence the >> problem), but even if it does work should we be imp

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that many distros are in the habit of not installing the test > package by default. So dependencies outside that package on *anything* > in it are a problem. Maybe test_support should be lifted out of the > test pa

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Note that many distro

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >> If it's about silencing warnings, then how about putting it in the >> warnings >> module? > > > That sounds good to me, and would be very reasonable. This would make a

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >>>> If it's about silen

Re: [Python-Dev] Unicode 5.1.0

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Benjamin Peterson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial mirrors

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > Thanks to Neil Schemenauer, we now have some Mercurial mirrors hosted at > http://code.python.org/hg/ > > Here are the URLs for each of the available repositories: > - http://code.python.org/hg/trunk/ > - http

Re: [Python-Dev] The recursion checking problem

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I was working on a recursion overflow checking bug > (http://bugs.python.org/issue2548) and, while I've managed to produce a > working > patch, I've also become uncomfortable with the very idea of trying to plug

Re: [Python-Dev] HTTPS read-only SVN access is denied?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:39 PM, techtonik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> As a workaround, if you only need read-only access, you can use the Mercurial >> mirrors which should work through your proxy (AFAIK Mercurial only

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this should be deferred to Py3.1. > This decision was not widely discussed and I think it likely that some users > will > be surprised and dismayed. Perhaps, but that could be said about almost any module that h

Re: [Python-Dev] bsddb alternative (was Re: [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0)

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM, C. Titus Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 04:41:32PM -0700, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > -> I think this should be deferred to Py3.1. > -> > -> This decision was not widely discussed and > -> I think it likely that some users will > -> be surp

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brett Cannon wrote: >>> Also, the reason for removal may yet disappear >>> if jcrea steps in an continues to make updates. >> >

Re: [Python-Dev] 3rd-party dbms

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Oleg Broytmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> for 3.1 there is nothing saying we can't change shelve and the >> dbm package to allow 3rd-party code to register with the dbm package >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm not going to release rc1 tonight. There are too many open release > blockers that I don't want to defer, and I'd like the buildbots to churn > through the bsddb removal

Re: [Python-Dev] 'warnings' module changes still breaking Twisted, still looking for a fix

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the 2.6 final release impending, the Twisted community buildbot is > still red, , but there only seems to be one real issue: > the warn_explicit change. This seems like it could be a pretty minor bit of > mai

Re: [Python-Dev] 'warnings' module changes still breaking Twisted, still looking for a fix

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:39 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> That's why catch_warning keeps track of the warnings filter too, so >> you can call warnings.simplefilter("always") within the context >> manager and the filter state will be restored. > > Than

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm not going to release rc1 tonight. There are too many open release > blockers that I don't want to defer, and I'd like the buildbots to churn > through the bsddb removal

Re: [Python-Dev] bsddb tests disabled by default

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Just installing 2.6rc2, I see that bsddb3 testsuite is disabled by default. > > Current testsuite is far more fast and stable that the old one (entire > test: 17 seconds in my

Re: [Python-Dev] Code coverage

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Walter Dörwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all! > > The code coverage site at http://coverage.livinglogic.de/ was broken for > the last few months. It's fixed again now and runs the test suite once > per day with > > regrtest.py -T -N -uurlfetch,largefile,

Re: [Python-Dev] bsddb tests disabled by default

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brett Cannon wrote: >> Well, 'time' says the test takes 16.09 sec user and 16.09 sec system >> on my MacBook, but a total execution ti

Re: [Python-Dev] Deploying a Python Service on Apache Axis2

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Heshan Suriyaarachchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > Apache Axis2/Java, is a popular open source Web service engine. It > currently supports exposing services written in Java, Javascript as Web > services. This article [1] discusses the Python data Bin

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon 2009 Call for Proposals

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Call for proposals -- PyCon 2009 -- > === > > Want to share your experience and expertise? PyCon 2009 is looking for > proposals to fill the for

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon 2009 Call for Proposals

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Call for proposals -- PyC

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon 2009 Call for Proposals

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: > >> You sit in front of a bunch of people answering questions asked by the >> audience. You know, a panel. =) It's just a Q&A session so that PyCon >> attende

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon 2009 Call for Proposals

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Tarek Ziadé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Benjamin Peterson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >

Re: [Python-Dev] PyCon 2009 Call for Proposals

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> I am thinking of organizing a panel this year for python-dev (much >> like the one I organized in 2007). Who would be willing to be on the >> panel with me if I di

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an Python account

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Victor Stinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Would it possible to get more permissions on Python bugtracker, especially to > add keywords, close a duplicate bug, etc.? > > I also would like an SVN account for Python trunk and Python 3000 branch. I > know that

Re: [Python-Dev] Python security team

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Victor Stinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know if a Python security team does exist. I sent an email > about an imageop issue, and I didn't get any answer. Later I learned that a > security ticket was created, I don't have access to it. >

Re: [Python-Dev] Python security team

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Victor Stinner >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to know if a Python security team does

Re: [Python-Dev] I would like an Python account

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Victor Stinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Would it possible to get more permissions on Python bugtracker, especially to > add keywords, close a duplicate bug, etc.? > Let's start off with giving you Developer permissions on the tracker to start and then y

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch for an initial support of bytes filename in Python3

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Victor Stinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > See attached patch: python3_bytes_filename.patch > Patches should go on the tracker, not the mailing list. Otherwise it will just get lost. -Brett ___ Python-Dev mailin

Re: [Python-Dev] for __future__ import planning

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > >> So now that we've released 2.6 and are working hard on shepherding 3.0 >> out the door, it's time to worry about th

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 focus (was Re: for __future__ import planning)

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry Warsaw schrieb: >> On Oct 3, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >> >>> So now that we've released 2.6 and are working hard on shepherding 3.0 >>> out the door, it's time to worry about the next set of releases.

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 focus (was Re: for __future__ import planning)

[replying to both Georg and Martin] On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:17 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, since for >95% of the (potential) Py3k users it is more important than >> e.g. the import rewrite in Python (no stab at you intended, Brett), it is >> something someone will h

Re: [Python-Dev] [Fwd: In Python 2.6, bytes is str]

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This does make it look rather as though bytes == str was a decision > whose consequences weren't fully appreciated before implementation. > Well, you could say that about almost any change. > Was this horror anticipated?

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [SNIP] > Bright idea > -- > Let's go one step further and do this just about everywhere and instead of > putting it in the docs, attach an exec-able string as an attribute to our C > functions. Further, those pure

Re: [Python-Dev] __getattr__ and new style classes

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote: > >> But this is already the case, and the reason why there are three >> variable to describe an exception: type, value and traceback. > > Yes, but you only get one object for the value, which means

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9 Oct, 11:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Background >> -- >> In the itertools module docs, I included pure python equivalents for each >> of the C functions. Necessarily, some of those equivalents are only >> approxi

Re: [Python-Dev] syntax change justification

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Jim Jewett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Coghlan's explanation of what justifies a syntax change (most of message > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-October/082831.html ) > should probably be added to the standard docs/FAQs somewhere. > > At the

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> On 9 Oct, 11:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Background >>> -- >>> In the itertools module docs, I included pure python equivalents for each >>> of the C functions. Necessarily,

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> The advantage of the decorator version is that the compiler or module >>>

[Python-Dev] Possible summits at PyCon (and question about sprinting implications)

Over in PyConLand, there has been talk about trying to set up a language summit the day before PyCon starts (the second day of tutorials). The idea is to give the core developers and Python VM implementers a day to sit around and talk about stuff without having to eat into the sprints (I am not le

Re: [Python-Dev] Transformation with ``parser`` ast

This mailing list is for discussing the design of Python, not its use. The best place to ask your question is comp.lang.python. -Brett On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ``compiler.ast`` module makes parsing Python source-code and AST > manipulation re

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Scott Dial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raymond Hettinger wrote: >> * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations >> when they have to build equivalents to CPython. >> >> * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended

[Python-Dev] is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?

I just discovered frozen packages set their __path__ simply to their name and not to a list as expected (http://bugs.python.org/issue4211). This made me think about the 'path' argument to find_module() and whether it can be treated as simply a hint or should always be seriously looked at. Take fro

Re: [Python-Dev] is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> I just discovered frozen packages set their __path__ simply to their >> name and not to a list as expected (http://bugs.python.org/issue4211). >> This made me think a

Re: [Python-Dev] is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Brett Cannon wrote: > >> Good enough for me. Then I am

Re: [Python-Dev] is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon schrieb: >> I just discovered frozen packages set their __path__ simply to their >> name and not to a list as expected (http://bugs.python.org/issue4211). >> This made me think a

Re: [Python-Dev] Why do we care about -OPT:Olimit=0?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python's configure.in contains this check: > ># disable check for icc since it seems to pass, but generates a warning >if test "$CC" = icc >then > ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok=no >fi > >AC_MSG_CHECKING(whether $CC accept

Re: [Python-Dev] is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 07:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Brett Cannon wrote: >>

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:14, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: >> On Thursday 30 October 2008, Victor Stinner wrote: One of the reasons why I'm very keen on us moving to a distributed version control system is to help break the logjam on core developers. >

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 05:50, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 01:02 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: [SNIP] >>If Python would be more reactive, more developer will be attracted. The >>communication is very important in an o

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 17:27, Victor Stinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Friday 31 October 2008 00:34:32 Paul Moore, vous avez écrit : >> Agreed. I was thinking vaguely in terms of a type of voting - rather >> than a status or resolution, it might be more like the nosy list - a >> list of peop

[Python-Dev] hg branch gone?

I just tried to update my 3.0 branch in hg from http://code.python.org/hg/branches/py3k/ and hg is telling me it's a 404. Anyone else having trouble? -Brett ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

[Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

I have started the DVCS PEP which can be seen at http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7fctr4_40dvjkdg64 . Not much is there beyond the rationale, usage scenarios I plan to use, and what other sections I plan to write. At this point I am looking for any suggestions for fundamental usage scenarios that I

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 17:08, Gustavo Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Brett, > >> At this point I am looking for any suggestions for fundamental usage >> scenarios that I am missing from the PEP. If you think the few already >> listed are missing some core part of a VCS, please let me know

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 09:58, C. Titus Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -> Sticking with a dvcs implemented in Python makes the best sense, > -> especially when you consider the plugin architecture. When we > -> selected a new tracker, we didn't make implementation in Python a > -> requirement,

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 09:57, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Brett, > > Brett Cannon python.org> writes: >> >> I have started the DVCS PEP which can be seen at >> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7fctr4_40dvjkdg64 . Not much is there >

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 19:03, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have started the DVCS PEP which can be seen at >> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7fctr4_40dvjkdg64 . Not much is th

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:19, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon python.org> writes: >> >> At this point I am looking for any suggestions for fundamental usage >> scenarios that I am missing from the PEP. If you think the few already >> li

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:35, Thomas Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 18:57, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 17:08, Gustavo Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > H

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:57, Gustavo Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since I have never seen that come up during Python's development I am >> going to leave it out. But I do see the benefit and how it might help >> with future work. > > Of course, that's entirely up to you. But it strikes

[Python-Dev] New "stage" field in the tracker

Martin added a new "stage" field in the tracker so that issues can now be more clearly identified in terms of what is needed to move them forward. For now it is probably best to continue to use both keywords and stage values (i.e. the "patch" keyword is implied when the stage of an issue goes beyon

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 14:58, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > >> As I said, one of the scenarios already says patches can be whatever >> the DVCS support

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 17:59, Stephen J. Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesse Noller writes: > > > I don't see how git can be considered given poor windows support - > > compilation on OS/X can be a bear too. > > I can't speak to the "poor Windows support", but I've been compiling > both i

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 14:38, Gustavo Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Both. First and foremost I am looking for any scenarios people are >> using now for svn that I didn't cover. After that I can probably add >> some DVCS-specific things. But the problem with that is my DVCS >> experience is

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 13:28, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ralf Schmitt wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Ralf Schmitt schrieb: I think you really should not exclude any dvcs based on it's implementation language. I.e.

[Python-Dev] DVCS PEP update

OK, I give: git is in the running. But do realize it will take a lot for it to beat out bzr or hg. I have emailed some people who have shown allegiance to a specific DVCS to seeif they are willing to fill in the usage scenarios for me along with converting the dev FAQ so that we all have a clear w

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 03:09, Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/3 Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> At this point I am looking for any suggestions for fundamental usage >> scenarios that I am missing from the PEP. If you think the few already >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 07:35, Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/5 David Ripton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> All timings very approximate: >> >> Time for average user to check out Python sources with bzr: 10 minutes >> >> Time for average user to check out Python sources with git or hg: 1 m

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:16, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I apologize that I haven't read whatever Brett's written so far, but I just > haven't had time, and don't know if there's a PEP yet (and if so, what its > number is). I did want to get my questions/confusion on the record though. > It'

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:45, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Before we can make the switch to Bazaar, sure -- if we do. > > That is my whole point. Before we switch to whatever DVCS, this > system should have a complete installation, with all pieces in > place. > > I was just point

Re: [Python-Dev] DVCS PEP update

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:34, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I give: git is in the running. But do realize it will take a lot > for it to beat out bzr or hg. > > I have emailed some people who have shown allegiance to a specific > DVCS to seeif they are willing

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 17:36, Stephen J. Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In what follows, caveat IANB (I am not Brett, and neither is > Cosmin), but there is some experience with these systems, and my > recommendations are based on that. > Wow, I'm part of an acronym! That's a first. > Cosm

Re: [Python-Dev] DVCS PEP update

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 06:23, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> I have emailed some people who have shown allegiance to a specific >> DVCS to seeif they are willing to fill in the usage scenarios for me >> along with convertin

Re: [Python-Dev] DVCS PEP update

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 05:04, Dirkjan Ochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon python.org> writes: >> So my first choice for Mercurial fell through. If you would like to >> represent Mercurial, let me know. > > I can represent Mercurial, though it may be

Re: [Python-Dev] DVCS PEP update

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 14:52, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 06:23, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 16:47, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >>> You need not feel that way. It's not you---the flexibility of dVCS >>> means that until the Powers That Be promulgate a Workflow, this will >

Re: [Python-Dev] DVCS PEP update

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 18:23, Stephen J. Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon writes: > > > I consider that a perk feature. > > Let's not judge which features are perks or essential quite yet. (If > the number of features/scenarios/whatnot becomes

Re: [Python-Dev] Looking for VCS usage scenarios

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 18:31, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: >> I have started the DVCS PEP which can be seen at >> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7fctr4_40dvjkdg64 . Not much is there >> beyond the rationale, usage scenarios I

[Python-Dev] Getting Set Up dev doc

Thanks to the flu that I am getting over I finally got around to start writing the dev docs I have been planning to author for years. The first one is how to get set up, with the draft at http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg7fctr4_5457424jfh . Obviously any corrections are appreciated. About the only

[Python-Dev] Getting Set Up doc now online

The Setup doc I sent to the list a little while back has now been put online at http://www.python.org/dev/setup/ . I also fleshed out the dev FAQ so that technical details are all in there while the Setup doc just outlines basically key points. -Brett __

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