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> What do you t
It's time to continue 2.7.* point releases with 2.7.2 and finish off
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> this make sense? Shouldn't an attempt to compare to unlike objects be a
> TypeError, just like trying to order them is?
No. Ordering for types which completely different doe
2011/5/19 Ethan Furman :
> If anybody has a link to or an explanation why equal values must be equal
> hashes I'm all ears. My apologies in advance if this is an incredibly naive
> question.
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> On 24.05.2011 18:08, benjamin.peterson wrote:
>> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8f403199f999
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>> user: Benjamin Peterson
>> date: Tue May 24 11:09:06 2011 -0500
>> summary:
>> mo
w non-tested code is a bug :-)
>
>> I don't see any harm leaving them in.
>> Maybe we should add a comment about why they're done.
>
> It makes Python faster (!) and make silent the Clang Static Analyzer :-)
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> Le vendredi 27 mai 2011 15:33:07, Benjamin Peterson a écrit :
>> 2011/5/27 Victor Stinner :
>> > You have until the release of Python 3.3 to prove that StreamReader
>> > and/or StreamWriter can be faster than TextIOWrapper. If you can prove
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>> 2.7.2 is the second in bugfix release for the Python 2.7 series. 2.7 is the
>> last
>> major verison of the 2.x line and will be receiving bug fixes while new
>> feature
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> If a Python program imported a module, say numpy for example, where in the
> source is this line interpreted and then handled by import.c ?
Many different files. Start from TARGET(IMPORT_NAME) in ceval.c.
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Currently,
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is not.
I don't see any mention of it in the PEP but perhaps there is a good
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> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Benjamin Peterson
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>> Currently,
>>
>> def f(*, kw, **kwargs): pass
>>
>> is valid syntax, but
>>
>> def f(*args, *, kw): pass
>>
>> is not.
>>
>> I don&
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> I presume that only security patches should be added.
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> Either this exception should be mentioned in the inspect.getsource()
> documentation or else doctest should be monkeypatching inspect as well
> as linecache.
I should have made more clear in the message that this is actually a
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>> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm sanguine to announce a release
>> candidate for the fourth bugfix release for the Python 3.1 series, Python
>> 3.1.4.
>
> Is this actually a R
If no one is using it, I'd like to delete it. I also don't think we
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2011/6/12 "Martin v. Löwis" :
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>> I also don't think we
>> should be in business of distributing distribution specific files.
>
> I disagree. We certainly include PCbuild/*.vcproj, and Tools/msi,
> which are
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> In article ,
> benjamin.peterson wrote:
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>> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/0d0ca6f95d9d
>> changeset: 70879:0d0ca6f95d9d
>> user: Benjamin Peterson
>> date: Sun Jun 19 17:17:30 2011 -0500
>> summar
2011/7/3 Nick Coghlan :
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:02 AM, benjamin.peterson
> wrote:
>> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/bbbeddafeec0
>> changeset: 71160:bbbeddafeec0
>> user: Benjamin Peterson
>> date: Sun Jul 03 17:06:32 2011 -0500
>> summ
2011/7/3 Nick Coghlan :
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Benjamin Peterson
> wrote:
>> 2011/7/3 Nick Coghlan :
>>> May need to replace that with an assert(f != NULL) to keep static
>>> analysers happy.
>>
>> Surely static analyzers don't assume
2011/7/6 Victor Stinner :
> codecs.open() will be changed to reuse the builtin open() function
> (TextIOWrapper).
This doesn't strike me as particularly backwards compatible, since
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> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Benjamin Peterson
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>> 2011/7/6 Victor Stinner :
>>> codecs.open() will be changed to reuse the builtin open() function
>>> (TextIOWrapper).
>>
>> This doesn't strike me as particul
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> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Benjamin Peterson
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>> 2011/7/23 Eric Snow :
>>> The documentation[1] doesn't say, but the implementation of the imp
>>> module makes me wonder if sys.modules was not meant to be replaceable.
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>
> TBH, I said I was only -0 on the PEP, and if the stream returned by
> codecs.open() in 3.3 is sufficiently compatible with the stream
> returned the same function returns in 3.2, I am okay with it. (Except
> I also want you to cut a trillion dollars from the non-military
> budg
2011/7/29 Eli Bendersky :
> The other thread had some claims (*) that made me wonder - why are the tests
> in Python kept in Lib/ at all?
>
> AFAIK, this is rather an unusual project structure.
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> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 06:36, Benjamin Peterson
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>>
>> 2011/7/29 Eli Bendersky :
>> > The other thread had some claims (*) that made me wonder - why are the
>> > tests
>> > in Python kept in Lib/ at all?
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2011/7/29 Georg Brandl :
> Am 30.07.2011 01:20, schrieb benjamin.peterson:
>> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/84c3be27b4c7
>> changeset: 71614:84c3be27b4c7
>> parent: 71611:a6afd26caa8a
>> user: Benjamin Peterson
>> date: Fri Jul 29 18:19:43
Hi,
What is the policy regarding nosy lists? Is it appropriate it add people to
it besides oneself? As I cannot assign items, I'm sometimes tempted to add
someone relevant to the list. (ie Should I add Georg to documentation
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> So the hack added to some of the test code that I saw go by on
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Somebody can remove TODO in Lib/test/test_py3kwarn.py.
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Like above, let's try a little before we start setting up new infrastructure
left and right.
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> In Python we usually have to methods for the job, like
> set_py3kwarningmode and get_py3kwarningmode. I don't like the enable*
> and disable* style.
Consider this error:
>>> 3["something"]
Traceback (most recent call last):
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"unscriptable" seems rather ambiguous. How about "[obje
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r have to do more than
> check a simple static C variable, for obvious reasons.
Even if there's no dirty work, it could clean up this:
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> I would like to request commit privileges to work in a sandbox branch and
> although I don't have any familiarity with bzr, I would be comfortable using
> it.
Luckily, Bazaar is really easy.
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I have a patch to to add an easy way to give a Py3k warning (issue
2671). Does this sound useful?
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> safe enough for 2.6? Or should this be a 3.0-only thing with a
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I vote for a full DeprecationWarning.
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test_builtin tests most of the builtin types some how or another. All
of these also have complete suites elsewhere in the tests. Shouldn't
the tests in test_builtin be moved to the type specific tests?
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So what exactly is eating you about it?
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find a way to more forcefully enforce
> commit freezes for the betas though.
I wonder if you couldn't alter the server side commit hook to reject
everything with the message "Sorry, we're in a freeze." (You'd have to
make an exception for yourself.)
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