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> > heavily reliant on *very* fast internet access for participants in a
> > wave. That's far from universal in the Python community, let alone
> > the int
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> > today.
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> How can you know that? A slow link doesn't punish email or NNTP
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> distutils functionality.
Sloppy use of “in fact”. That s
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> > You omit the important part: adding a new thing to Python *so long
> > as it doesn't depend on anything outside Python*.
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> > > to me like the victory of purity over practicality.
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> > terribly useful, but the name and function signature doesn't suggest
> > anything else.
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> >> Well, 3to2 would then be an option for you: use Python 3 as the
> >> source language.
> >
> > I was under the impression that 2to3 was offic
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