nd that always
works.
For email, I once added encoding processing to the pipermail (the
mailman archiver), and that also always works.
> I'll go back and take another look at the problem, then come back if new
> revelations appear.
Good luck!
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since they still might be able to hard-code the encoding of the web
page they want to process.
In any case, I'm very skeptical that a general "guess encoding"
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of people would volunteer to maintain it, with the threat of removing
it from the stdlib again if these volunteers go away and too many
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If it's really the problem described in the MSKB article, the article
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bazaar repository".
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(*) FWIW, Google does provide the infrastructure; students are
encouraged (required?) to commit their work to code.google.com.
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really ship with any libraries that also have an active life outside
of Python.
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ka optparse) is currently seeing active
> external updates.
Hence my classification "doesn't really", which I meant to be vague.
> Of course, we also have a big warning at the top of the PEP saying
> *Never Ever Do This Again*
>> For web forms, I always encode the pages in UTF-8, and that always
>> works.
>
> Should work, if you use the "multipart/form-data" format.
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> repositories ?
No, no discussion needed. The students should just send me their SSH
keys, and their preferred form of firstname.lastname (some people
may have names more complex than that), and I'll add them.
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> this is very annoying.
Posting to so many lists is even more annoying. You might not get
a single helpful answer just because people are so frustrated by
this behavior.
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> I do not see this as a daunting task assuming jcea is willing to be
> volunteered to do the merge and to handle any py3k merge issues that
> come up.
Ideally, yes. Jesus, if you are uncertain of how exactly the merging
works, don't hesitat
; have parts of Python that rely on finding modules at explicit base
> addresses? Is BaseAddress a relic from the past? Christian or
> Martin?
As Christian says: specifying the base address so that the addresses
don't overlap avoids having Windows to perform relocations on startup.
annot be exposed to Python as-is (hence
the two result values), and it isn't a system call (at least not
on POSIX), so it doesn't really need to be exposed, except perhaps
to also provide this on non-POSIX systems where a regular POSIX
implementation (in
alking about the specific implementation, which happens to be
a wrapper around the C library's mkstemp. For the use case in
question, I think passing delete=False to NamedTemporaryFile would
work just as well.
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> An example module for the NodeVisitor is in the repository which
> converts a Python AST back into Python source code:
>
> http://dev.pocoo.org/hg/sandbox/file/tip/ast/codegen.py
And another example for the same functionality is in Demo/parser/unparse.py.
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r has a version
number precisely so that you can refer to a specific version if you
need to.
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ems you don't want to identify whether the Windows installation is
a Win64 one, but whether the Python installation is, right?
For this, you should use platform.architecture()[0]
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Thomas Lee wrote:
> Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>>> This leaves us with a few options:
>>>
>>
>> 5. Reuse/Abuse Num(object) for arbitrary constants.
>>AFAICT, this should work out of the box.
>>
>>
> Eek. It *does* seem like Num woul
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settled that the architecture name is amd64. "64" is not enough,
because it can't tell Itanium and AMD64 apart (which are both Win64).
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return ? true : false;
Likewise, apparently, the notion of generic callables is difficult
to understand. Unless you have written it yourself, you won't recognize
an expression as callable.
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> This code is now open source! Browse it here:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/rietveld/source/browse
Are you also going to call it Rietveld then? Sounds better
to me than "the open source code review tool".
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> Thanks for any thoughts on this,
The proper way to implement this would be IRIs (RFC 3987),
in particular section 3.1. This is not as simple as just
encoding it as UTF-8, as you might have to apply IDNA to
the host part.
Code doing so just hasn't been contributed yet.
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acceptable.
Unfortunately, if a security catastrophe results from the function,
blame is (correctly) also upon Python for providing the function in
the first place.
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nt decoding it sees
> non-ascii octets, should it try to decode them as utf-8 and if that
> fails then leave them as is?
That's why I think that using IRIs should be a separate feature,
perhaps a separate module entirely.
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;s probably legal, but I don't understand why you think it's
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So, no. The author of ctypes is not a native English speaker, so unless
you want the details clarified in German, you need to find somebody who
actually speaks the language in which you want to read the
documentation.
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8.5 included, preferably starting at the next betas. Would you see a
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the code as-is, and might not start using .format before
Python 3.2, unless some coding convention says I have to.
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ght into these betas, or would it be ? Should I start doing
> something more/else ?
No. My question really was whether you see any reason not to bundle
Tk 8.5 with Python 2.6 (on Windows). Whether or not the Ttk API is
exposed is a different matter - you might consider providing it
as a di
> When I rename a module I use "svn copy", since "svn remove" doesn't
> pick up changes made to the "deleted" file. For example, here is what
> I did for PixMapWrapper:
You want to make changes to the deleted file? Why?
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revisions that you don't want to revert, try multiple merge
commands before a single commit; if that fails, revert and commit
each range of changes separately.
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P.S. If you want to get the buildbots back in shape (in case they
aren
bversion's first release was in October 2000; it wasn't self-hosting
until 2001 :-)
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. You wanted to replace the file with a stub,
and then delete it? Why not just delete it (or use svn mv in the first
place)?
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PEP 351, the freeze protocol.
----
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e supported
> (without name mangling of files in the working directory).
Assuming this is NTFS, notice that it is not the file system that is
case-folding, but the API. If you pass FILE_FLAGS_POSIX_SEMANTICS to
the API, you can get case-sensitive behavior (to some degree, as there
are bugs in that A
particular, for the following
operations I could not find a way to make them case-sensitive (as they
don't accept any flags parameter): DeleteFile (apparently possible
through NtDeleteFile), CreateDirectory, RemoveDirectory, FindFirstFile
(and probably
y - you still need
to try a lot of combinations for user names and passwords, plus with
subversion, we'll easily recognize doubtful checkins (as we do even
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ed, distributed application.
> And then, of course, you have a gazillion specialized solutions
> such as PyRO:
>
> http://pyro.sourceforge.net/
I personally would not use that library, although I know others
are very fond of it.
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NUMA consequences that the operating system, but not application,
needs to deal with).
So -1 on "multicore" from me as well, despise marketing (typo
intentional :-)
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adjust PC/os2emx/Makefile, PC/os2vacpp/makefile.omk, and PC/VC6, but
these changes are waived).
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Aren't the 7.1 and 8.0 files generated?
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you should certainly enable compiler support for exceptions,
for that module.
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This has somewhat lost relevance with ctypes.
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system errors, just to provide an illusion for what Microsoft considers
POSIX).
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asynchronous (structured) exceptions and want to specify /EHa,
or that they have cases where C functions throw C++ exceptions,
so they want to specify /EHs (no c).
So yes, unfortunately, you'll have to add the option into your
own setup.py, it seems.
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it (to set or clear that variable) is a good thing, IMO.
Naming contest: it probably would be the longest of the PYTHON*
variables. I would not want to call it PYTHONENCODING, or
PYTHONSTDENCODING, though, because people might infer that it
affects sys.getdefaultencoding(), which it shouldn'
> Writing Unicode to stdout will still use the default encoding
> ASCII to convert it to an 8-bit string.
That's not true.
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the locale doesn't help there.
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> sys.stdout.encoding.
Right - that's the proposal.
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>> affects sys.getdefaultencoding(), which it shouldn't.
>
>PYTHONIOENCODING?
Unprecise in a different way (as it is meant to apply only to stdout,
not to all IO), but shorter.
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PYTHONUNBUFFERED, PYTHONVERBOSE, PYTHONSTARTUP, and PYTHONCASEOK don't
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would indeed create a dependency on libgcc.
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> just more tools that help?
The C compiler in particular. It already gets symbolic constants and
struct layouts right, something that ctypes can't do (because it doesn't
use header files).
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> code, which causes this SEG fault
I think you already found the code; gdb tells you the exact location of
the crash. What are the values of pool and bp?
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(as any good list of two items, this has three :-)
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to have old releases on some slaves, rather than
having them test all the same version (which is known to work in
principle, anyway).
> I would hate to find problems in Python beta releases because the
> buildbots are outdated :(
Don't worry, some slaves will surely have the latest version
t to have the slaves export
> | the new version.
>
> I was thinking about the Unix buildbots.
Ah. There is no way to upgrade them, and attempts to upgrade them should
not be made (see my other message)
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Could that be done at build time as well?
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>
> So maybe Python just doesn't run on Solaris with the Sun C compiler.
> Certainly doesn't build out of the box.
Apparently, there were some intermediate releases of SunPRO which had
this problem; in these cases, setting -xc99=%none may help.
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n/trunk/Lib/lib-old/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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which shows no differences. In fact, Queue.py got its current contents
in r63077, the same version where queue.py was copied from Queue.py.
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a release blocker: there is no accepted PEP
demanding it, it does not cause any crashes, and it is no regression
over earlier releases.
For this to have any chance, it *must* work with Visual Studio.
Requiring gcc is unacceptable.
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expectancy of str.__mod__? I'd always supposed it being
> deprecated at some point in 3.x.
The PEP doesn't specify anything, and I don't recall any discussion,
either - the specific timing suggested above is merely my own hopes.
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I just resent the range that you indicated (r63887-r63898, inclusive).
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> Agreed. %(something)s is quirky - you are bound to forget the final "s"
> (or whatever other specifier) from time to time.
But that gives a ValueError the first time you try it, no?
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intuitive.
Still, I don't think this should be done. Flat is better than nested,
and adding hierarchy will make it *more* difficult to find anything
(except perhaps for the one person who did the rearrangement).
I personally use grep to find the place wher
syntax to me, perhaps plus the data types that have literals
or displays, and perhaps plus a few selected exceptions.
(just to test your own intuition: when reversed() got added, was
that more of a language change than when sys.meta_path got
added?)
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> are now.
Indeed.
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ented in Modules/posixmodule.c:posix_uname.
Finding out why it still shows up in os is left as an exercise for
the reader.
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works, even though
"foo bar" is not an identifier. setattr doesn't take the Python grammar
into account, but only the object's structure.
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That will only happen when (if) None becomes a keywords: then
foo.None will be a syntax error. You will still be able to put
attributes named 'None' (or 'import' or 'if') into any object
using getattr/setattr, or by direct access to __dict__.
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tion apparently deviates from the specification.
In Python 3, None, True, and False are keywords, so clearly, the
intended semantics is also the implemented one (and the language
description for 2.x needs to be updated/clarified).
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> Martin, since you committed 60793 in Feb, any others like this that need
> merging from release25-maint to trunk off the top of your head?
That's the entire chunk of "Google bug fixes", and yes, all of it needs
to be ported to 2.6 still.
I'll look into it, unless you
modifies x.counts
People will be surprised that x also grows an attribute
e, as the for loop involves an assignment, which you say
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sorting, it should be called "sorted dictionary", and mandate a
comparison function (which might default to cmp).
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odict.odict([('c', 'd'), ('foo', 'bar')])
The slicing operation that you provide should be spelled as
d.items()[1:3], or, if you don't want to pay the cost of creating
the full items list, then add a method such a
making as fast as it could be ... IMHO yet another reason to
> ship a usable implementation with Python.
If you use a linked list instead of Python list, you can even do
deletion in O(1). Of course, memory consumption will be higher.
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>
> That's the idea -- in 3.x this will be a non-issue.
It's perhaps even less of an issue than you think: In 3.0,
True and False are *already* compiled into constants. So
any additional special casing would make no diff
, the maintainers will pickup and changes
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