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Kerrick Staley wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Ned Deily wrote:
> > I think adding the requirement to mandate hard link vs soft link usage
> > is an unnecessary and unwarranted attempt at optimization. For
> > instance, IIRC, the OS X installers don
would be better
if Python 2 and Python 3 were consistent here."
I don't think it makes all that much difference one way or the other.
But it would be better for them all to be one kind or the other.
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> > changeset: 71030:abfe28e7e5cd
> > branch: 2.7
> > user:Ned Deily
>
> > diff --git a/Lib/test/test_posix.py b/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> > --- a/Lib/test/test_posix.py
> &g
ons and changes to the
tests need to ensure that auxiliary directories and files are installed
by the Makefile install targets and not just resident in the build
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)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from lxml import etree
>>> print etree.LXML_VERSION
(2, 0, 2, 0)
>>> print etree.LIBXML_VERSION
(2, 6, 31)
>&g
library within the application bundle for similar reasons, i.e.
avoiding "dependency hell". py2app does, however, go to some trouble to
analyze dependencies and include only a minimal set of required packages.
<http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk/doc/index.html#id35>
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ython.org/issue4937.
I've noted a workaround in the tracker: just copy the file from an older
version of Python. It's a simple xml plist and I don't think its
contents are all that critical anyway.
While the build should be fixed for 2.6+ (I'll send a patch), note that
bun
om
> source? Any info would be appreciated.
I don't know what other activity is going on but I am working on it
right now. I expect to submit several patches in the next few days that
should allow the production of at least a test installer im
thonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk/doc/index.html>
<http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.apple> or
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig>
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In general, the issue
tracker at <http://bugs.python.org/> is the place to file bugs. Check
back in a couple of days.
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urns an empty string (I checked it myself).
http://bugs.python.org/issue12576
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ble to ./configure may fix
it. There is an open issue to change configure to use better defaults
for this. (I'm right in the middle of reconfiguring my development
systems so I can't test it myself immediately but I'll report back
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I was able to do a quick test on 10.7 Lion and the 8 test failures still
occur regardless of deployment target. Sorry, I don't have time to
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In article <20110824205047.6be49...@pitrou.net>,
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:37:20 -0700
> Ned Deily wrote:
> > In article <20110824184927.2697b...@pitrou.net>,
> > Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:31:50 +02
at as we get closer to 3.3 alphas and betas.
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way on OS X when run via sudo.
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ll remind them that the
configure change is likely needed for all Pythons. It's still safest to
stick with good old gcc-4.2 on OS X at the moment.
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, to a third-party package distributor
(like MacPorts, Homebrew, or Fink). Or you can produce
platform-specific installers for each platform which also seems
heavy-weight.
Has anyone analyzed the current packages on PyPI to see how many provide
binary distributions and in what format?
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Paul Moore wrote:
> On 30 October 2011 18:04, Ned Deily wrote:
> > Has anyone analyzed the current packages on PyPI to see how many provide
> > binary distributions and in what format?
>
> A very quick and dirty check:
>
> dmg: 5
> rpm: 12
> m
/NEWS,
edit the original patch commit comment using "hg qrefresh -e" and then
commit the patch with "hg qfinish".
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equest existing packages be made available
for py32, or - even better - provide patches to do so, it will happen.
Also right now besides the Python port group transition, the project has
been swamped with issues arising from the Xcode 4 introduction for Lion,
mandating the transition from gcc t
end of the PyCon sprints next month. We will also
have some recommendations for buildbot changes.
BTW, the current test failures with clang without pydebug include a
number of ctypes test failures (in ctypes.test.test_cfuncs.CFunctions).
If anyone
ions. As I mentioned the other day, it is going to
take a few more weeks to finish testing and generate all the fixes.
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On Feb 5, 2012, at 20:25 , Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> 2012/2/5 Ned Deily :
>> In article ,
>> georg.brandl wrote:
>>> +Bugfix Releases
>>> +===
>>> +
>>> +- 3.2.1: released July 10, 2011
>>> +- 3.2.2: released Septem
y the release of OS X 10.7 and Xcode 4.2 which were
subsequent to the previous releases. None of the currently available
python.org installers provide a fully working system on OS X 10.7, or on
OS X 10.6 if the user has installed Xcode 4.2 for 10.6.
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That's just my take on it, of course. I can live with either option.
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In article <4f32df1e.40...@v.loewis.de>,
"Martin v. Lowis" wrote:
> Am 05.02.2012 21:34, schrieb Ned Deily:
> > In article
> > <20120205204551.horde.ncdeyvnncxdpltxvnkzi...@webmail.df.eu>,
> > mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
> >
> >>>
2.7.x or
3.2.x installers on OS X 10.6 or 10.7.
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In article ,
Ned Deily wrote:
> However, this may all be a moot point now as I've subsequently proposed
> a patch to Distutils to smooth over the problem by checking for the case
> of gcc-4.2 being required but not available and, if so, automatically
> substituting clan
to develop and test the patch for that prior to
code freeze, once there is agreement what it should do. Is there any
work needed on the Windows installer side?
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for that. That part will probably have to wait until PyCon.
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I'm away from the source for the next 36 hours. I'll reply with patches by
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:01:39 +0100 ""Martin v. Löwis""
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>> There are two issues t
s a separate topic that I plan to address later.
As for now, I believe all that is needed for PEP 394 is now checked-in.
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ing of installed third-party packages between the two. The feature
was added in 2.7 and 3.1+ and tracked in Issue4865
(http://bugs.python.org/issue4865). Please open a new issue on the
tracker if you have examples of how this is causing problems. Thanks.
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In article <4f54c6c3.9040...@netwok.org>,
Éric Araujo wrote:
> Le 03/03/2012 22:57, Ned Deily a écrit :
> > The python.org OS X Pythons (and built-from-source framework builds) add
> > the Apple-specific directory to the search path in order to allow
> > shari
[edited for clarity]
In article ,
Ned Deily wrote:
> [...] It affects
> user-installed framework-build Pythons, such as those provided by
> python.org installers, allowing [the user-installed Pythons] to [use]
> distributions that [were] explicitly
> installed by the user [i
In article <20120319142539.7e83c...@pitrou.net>,
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> [...] As for svn.python.org, is anyone
> using it?
The repo for the website (www.python.org) is maintained there.
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lds. The python.org OS X
installers do not build or supply Tcl/Tk; they link with the
Apple-supplied Tcl/Tks and compatible distributions, like the
ActiveState ones. So this is all a non-issue.
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now removed (2.7 - dd23333b579a, 3.2 -
292cbd59dbe0, 3.3 - b5e6cbacd6ab).
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gmane.org provides web, NNTP newsreader, and RSS feeds of all of the
mailing lists mirrored there:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.bugs
Many of the other python.org-hosted mailing lists are mirrored at gmane
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bbe197bf57a1
remote: 1 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files
unresolved
remote: sh: 1: source: not found
remote: sh: 1: sphinx-build: not found
remote: warning: incoming.sphinxbuild hook exited with status 127
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rm -rf
"${BASEDIR}"/root/* || echo "ERROR: configure failed"
This is for 3.3 on 10.7. For 3.2 and 2.7 at the moment you also need to
explicitly set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.7 and CC=clang.
The framework path probably needs to be an absolute path, BTW.
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Ned Deily wrote:
> Read the updated Mac/README for more information about framework builds.
> Here's a sample configure I use to minimize the chances of pollution
> from other installed Pythons:
>
> BASEDIR="$(dirname $(pwd -P))"
> [ -n "
minent release of OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion when the whole OS is
built with clang-llvm. The iOS world is already there.
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Un
e procedurally easier for most people to install Xcode 4
than the Command Line Tools package since the former is now available
for free download from the Mac App Store while the latter still requires
registering for a (free) Apple Developer Id and download from the Apple
Developer site. And since Xco
In article <20120815122105.3847e...@pitrou.net>,
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> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:30:17 -0700
> Ned Deily wrote:
> > 1. Gatekeeper singing on 10.8
> >
> > [...] Quick summary is that we need to
> > change the installer format that is used t
change set for "default" will be the most recent but not always. You
just need to check the branch list.
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> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:34:56 -0700
> Ethan Furman wrote:
> > Ned Deily wrote:
> > > In article , Terry Reedy
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> If
In article
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Tim Delaney wrote:
> BTW, "What's New": http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/ still
> says 80x for decimal performance.
Thanks for the report. The page has now been updated to match the final
3.3.0 release announcement post.
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n python.org (one now requires
at least 10.5 and the other at least 10.6). However, we don't want to
break anything on 10.4, if possible, and the installers still work on
later systems so there is some value in producing them - as long as
someone is paying attention when they break and,
2.5 is compiled with
llvm-gcc and handles 2**31 correctly.
Unfortunately, AFAIK, only the submitter (i.e. me) can see the bug
report (problem id 12411585). I'll report back when I hear something.
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In article <20121002073135.ga26...@sleipnir.bytereef.org>,
Stefan Krah wrote:
> Ned Deily wrote:
> > > Forgot the link...
> > > http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7885
> > >
> > > On Monday, October 1, 2012, Guido van Rossum
that they test something completely different from what gets
> released). However, I don't mind supporting this strategy anyway as an
> experiment.
I'm certainly also game to supporting earlier alphas. Perhaps not on
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In article ,
Ned Deily wrote:
> In article <20121002073135.ga26...@sleipnir.bytereef.org>,
> Stefan Krah wrote:
> > Ned Deily wrote:
> > > > Forgot the link...
> > > > http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7885
> > > &
In article
,
Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Update: the bug I filed has been closed as a duplicate of #11932488
> > which apparently at the moment is still open. No other information is
> > available
On Oct 6, 2012, at 20:47 , Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Ned Deily wrote:
> In article
>> ,
>> Guido van Rossum wrote:
>> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
>> > > In article ,
>> > > Update: the bug
to configure.ac et al and then it is run on the committer's
machine. So whatever is checked in for those files reflects the version
of autoconf that the committer used.
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going to mandate a specific version again, that should be documented and
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The latter IMO :)
Not at all, IMO :)
This behavior is a change recently introduced by the changesets
associated with http://bugs.python.org/issue16262. Previously, the
first `python` on $PATH was used if asdl_c.py needed to be run in the
Makefile. You now have the opportunity to override the
ointed out in the issue, the change also can
affect third-party IDLE extensions but he thinks the backport is still
worthwhile. Since the discussion has progressed primarily on the issue
tracker and the python-dev interest is probably limited, I would suggest
keeping the discussion over there rather
d both the
manual and the IDLE help file.
http://docs.python.org/2/library/idle.html#edit-context-menu
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issue facing people doing development on Python itself. Normal users or
Python don't run iit from a source directory, they run it from an
installed location (make install) and then there is no such problem.
It's not worth changing at this point.
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s including version
controlling the patches. I find it much easy to deal that way with
maintenance changes that may have a non-trivial gestation period.
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> > '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload']
Barry,
I think this discussion should be taking place on the bug tracker
(http://bugs.python.org), rather than in python-dev. bundlebuilder is
unique to OS X and fairly esoteric. Please ope
ted for ActiveTcl 8.5.13 and Issue 15853 patch
installer
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om branch 3.3 to default. As a result, the 3.3 branch is
currently "open"; you'll see this as a +1 heads when doing a hg pull
-u. A null merge needs to happen from 3.3 to default to close the 3.3
branch again. Giampaolo, can you take care of this?
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t works for me. There are also several pending issues that I want to
get into 2.7.4 (and 3.2.4). That should be enough time to finish them.
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D Python distributions. Your 3.3 builds should not
be trying to used them to satisfy libraries. Perhaps there are links in
/usr/local/*. Removing those links or files in /usr/local should allow
you to build lxml with the Apple-supplied libxml2 and libxslt. If
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