[Python-Dev] 3.7.7 schedule accelerated, cutoff now 2020-03-02

2020-02-26 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/3-7-7-schedule-accelerated-cutoff-now-2020-03-02/3511 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https

[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.7.7rc1 is now available for testing

2020-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
Details here: https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-7rc1-is-now-available-for-testing/3638 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-377rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.7.7rc1 is now available for testing

2020-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
On Mar 4, 2020, at 17:17, Jonathan Goble wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:02 PM Ned Deily wrote: > Details here: > >> https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-7rc1-is-now-available-for-testing/3638 >> >> "Assuming no critical problems are found prior to 2020-0

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.7.7rc1 is now available for testing

2020-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
On Mar 4, 2020, at 23:39, Jonathan Goble wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:05 PM Ned Deily wrote: >> On Mar 4, 2020, at 17:17, Jonathan Goble wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:02 PM Ned Deily wrote: >> > Details here: >> >> https://discuss.python.

[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.7.7 is now available

2020-03-10 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-7-is-now-available/3682 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-377/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev

[Python-Dev] Re: MacOS pkg bundles openssl, but doesn't include a cert bundle?

2020-03-23 Thread Ned Deily
et of certificates with the installer directly because any of them could be replaced or invalidated over the lifetome of the installer package. Hope that helps. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.o

[Python-Dev] Upcoming cutoffs for 3.9, 3.8, 3.7, and 3.6 releases! Last chance for 3.7 bugfixes!

2020-06-06 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/upcoming-cutoffs-for-3-9-3-8-3-7-and-3-6-releases-last-chance-for-3-7-bugfixes/4362 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le

[Python-Dev] Final reminder: 3.7.8 / 3.6.11 cutoff Monday, last non-security bugfixes for 3.7.x

2020-06-12 Thread Ned Deily
. Assuming no release-blocker issues arise during the release candidate testing, 3.7.8 and 3.6.11 will release on 06-27. https://discuss.python.org/t/upcoming-cutoffs-for-3-9-3-8-3-7-and-3-6-releases-last-chance-for-3-7-bugfixes/4362 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org

[Python-Dev] Re: Final reminder: 3.7.8 / 3.6.11 cutoff Monday, last non-security bugfixes for 3.7.x

2020-06-12 Thread Ned Deily
s to 3.9 but deemed inappropriate to backport to 3.8 and/or 3.7. https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?utf8=✓&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+base%3A3.7 https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?utf8=✓&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22needs+backport+to+3.7%22 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [

[Python-Dev] Re: Final reminder: 3.7.8 / 3.6.11 cutoff Monday, last non-security bugfixes for 3.7.x

2020-06-13 Thread Ned Deily
-discussed plan to migrate Python issue tracking from BPO to Github Issues is just recently starting to get under way, with the formation of a planning team and the intention to hire a project manager. I think that will be the opportunity to address these issues in a permanent way. -- Ned Dei

[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.7.8rc1 and 3.6.11rc1 are now available for testing

2020-06-17 Thread Ned Deily
Details here: https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-8rc1-and-3-6-11rc1-are-now-available-for-testing/4467 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-378rc1/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3611rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org

[Python-Dev] Re: os.add_dll_directory and DLL search order

2020-06-22 Thread Ned Deily
g versions is not something I can > easily change. For what it's worth, you're looking at the wrong value (it's easy to do!). '2.6.0' is the version number of the sqlite3 module itself, not of the sqlite3 library. >>> sqlite3.version '2.6.0' >&

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 622: Structural Pattern Matching

2020-06-25 Thread Ned Deily
39|3.9) pushd "$HOME/dev/39/source" ;; 3x|3.x|master) pushd "$HOME/dev/3x/source" ;; *) echo "unknown branch ${branch}" ;; esac -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- pyth

[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.7.8 and 3.6.11 now available - last 3.7.x bugfix release

2020-06-28 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-8-and-3-6-11-now-available-last-3-7-x-bugfix-release/4583 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org

[Python-Dev] Upcoming 3.7.9 and 3.6.12 Security Releases

2020-08-12 Thread Ned Deily
releases is small. Core developers: if you know of any additional security issues that should be addressed in these releases, please mark the relevant bpo issues as "release blocker" and, if possible, submit PRs for review prior to the end of 2020-08-13 AOE. Thanks! -- Ned Deily n...@

[Python-Dev] Re: async generator bug fixed in 3.8+ and backported to 3.6 but not to 3.7

2020-08-12 Thread Ned Deily
ot sure there's more >> to be done, however, given that this is fixed for 3.6, 3.7 is in a weird >> position still having the bug. >> >> So I just wanted to bring this up in case the fix can still be backported to >> 3.7. Thanks for bringing this up. I hav

[Python-Dev] Re: Doc tests failing for many PRs on GitHub

2020-09-01 Thread Ned Deily
Hi, >>>>> >>>>> There seems to be something wrong with the doc tests for PRs on Github. >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/22026/checks?check_run_id=1050881634 >>>>> https://github.com/python/cpython

[Python-Dev] Re: Doc tests failing for many PRs on GitHub

2020-09-01 Thread Ned Deily
On Sep 1, 2020, at 05:47, Ned Deily wrote: > I've opened https://bugs.python.org/issue41685 and pushed a temporary change > to the Docs build venv to pin the setuptools version to a previous version. > I've also restarted the failing CI test for Mark's PRs and a co

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.8.6rc1 is now ready for testing

2020-09-09 Thread Ned Deily
27;ve noticed the changelog link there leads to: > > https://docs.python.org/release/3.8.4rc1/whatsnew/changelog.html#changelog > > Where can this be updated? Thanks for reporting it. The link should now be fixed if you refresh

[Python-Dev] Re: docs: I'd like new features to references their PEPs

2020-09-13 Thread Ned Deily
n" and then creating PRs as needed against it. As you probably know, the devguide has the details including for the inline markup role :pep:. https://devguide.python.org/documenting/#rest-inline-markup -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ P

[Python-Dev] Re: unable to create PR on github

2020-09-21 Thread Ned Deily
as? I tried creating a PR from a branch on my fork to master on python/cpython. The first time I tried it, after pressing the create PR button, the button dimmed and just sat there. Then, I tried to create a PR again and this time it seemed to work OK. No problems reported on https://www.githu

[Python-Dev] Re: PR checks hang because travis does not report back to github

2020-10-04 Thread Ned Deily
and because of time zones, I've taken the liberty of acting in Pablo's behalf: it's now merged. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: IDLE on a Mac

2009-02-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > In article <77f954de-354d-4d9b-8c25-54597052e...@cox.net>, > ringhome wrote: > > > I am, however, having a small difficulty at home on my Mac. Not > > > willing to wait for a nice, pre-packaged bundle, I went and > >

[Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
for 10.5+ and will make them available, if there is interest. If someone else is planning on making official installer(s), I'd be happy to pass along my experiences so far. In any case, I strongly urge that the minimum support level be 10.4. --Ned -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org _

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
provide uploads to PyPI of packages with C extensions have to upload two versions even though the contents of both can be identical. (The appscript has run into this problem.) And it causes maintenance issues for users with multiple architectures. With the target set to 10.4, the

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
nnouncement simply formalizes that fact. This means that there will not be any further updates, not even security updates, for Mac OS X 10.3 users. Their existing installations will continue to work, but the software that is installed will not be updated. We

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-14 Thread Ned Deily
7, Feb 14 2009, 19:03:52) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5490)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> from distutils.util import get_platform; print(get_platform()) macosx-10.3-fat >>> My apologie

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Alex Martelli wrote: > On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Ned Deily wrote: >... > > have done complete and thorough testing. (In particular, I have no > > access to a G5 for 64-bit PPC testing.) > I have a PowerMac G5 at home and I'll be glad to run te

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.0.1

2009-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
s for the 3.0.1 and 2.6.1 to the main download page, too: <http://www.python.org/download/> -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
ed work on this on the list of possible > topics. Sounds like there will be no lack of things to talk about at Pycon! Thanks to everyone for their input on this. And congratulations on getting 3.0.1 - with OS X support - out there. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org _

Re: [Python-Dev] Closing outdated Mac issues

2009-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
her obsolete because other, and better supported, solutions are now available, like PyObjC or appscript. If people feel strongly about an issue, they can always ask to re-open it. Taking a quick look at your list, the only ones that may be worth looking at are the plistlib ones since it lives on in

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X Installer for 3.0.1 and supported versions

2009-02-26 Thread Ned Deily
ed a separate > Mac Python installer for the older operating systems vs. the newer. Yes, something will need to be done for that if Snow Leopard does have newer versions. Thanks for bringing this up! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-13 Thread Ned Deily
nstaller builds and run them on G3 and G4 Macs vs 32-/64- Intel. Any tests of interest beyond the default regttest.py? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-14 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > In article <49e3d34e.8040...@trueblade.com>, > Eric Smith wrote: > > Before then, if anyone could build and test the py3k-short-float-repr > > branch on any of the following machines, that would be great: > > > [...] >

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-14 Thread Ned Deily
unk, 3.0, 3.1) as 4-way (i386, ppc, x86_64, ppc64), although the ppc64 has had no testing recently. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscrib

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-14 Thread Ned Deily
the py3k-short-float-repr branch? Not looking good. Appears to be same behavior on the G4 with 10.5 (haven't tried the G3 yet). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-14 Thread Ned Deily
4-way: export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.5 configure -C --enable-framework --enable-universalsdk=/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk --with-universal-archs='all' --with-computed-gotos OPT='-g -O3' -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org __

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2

2009-04-15 Thread Ned Deily
W, that issue has recently been documented and there is a patch for the build script to ensure that the 3rd party Tcl/Tk is present during the installer build. I don't think it made it into the 2.6.2 source tree, though. <http://bugs.python.org/issue5651> -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.o

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue5434: datetime.monthdelta

2009-04-16 Thread Ned Deily
ooked at the code, I wonder whether you've looked at python-dateutil. I believe its relativedelta type does what you propose, plus much more, and it has the advantage of being widely used and tested. <http://labix.org/python-dateutil> -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2

2009-04-16 Thread Ned Deily
version 8.4.19) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2

2009-04-17 Thread Ned Deily
In article , "Russell E. Owen" wrote: > In article , > Ned Deily wrote: > > In article , > > Russell Owen wrote: > > > I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, > > > except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.

Re: [Python-Dev] #!/usr/bin/env python --> python3 where applicable

2009-04-19 Thread Ned Deily
ymlink to new executable > > 3.x fullinstall: > - installs python3.x executable > - adjusts (or creates) python3 symlink to new executable > - adjusts (or creates) python symlink to new executable Note that versioning is also an unresolved issue for the

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 beta blockers

2009-04-20 Thread Ned Deily
In article <1afaf6160904201509g2f5e784ah34c728732ca9b...@mail.gmail.com>, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > I forgot one: [...] What about #5756 - idle, pydoc, et al removed from 3.1? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list P

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 beta blockers

2009-04-20 Thread Ned Deily
In article <40d62762-abab-4de1-9be2-798e40ae2...@python.org>, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Apr 20, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > > > In article > > <1afaf6160904201509g2f5e784ah34c728732ca9b...@mail.gmail.com>, > > Benjamin Peterson wrote: > >>

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383: Non-decodable Bytes in System Character Interfaces

2009-04-30 Thread Ned Deily
), 'w') > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > IOError: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('w') or filename: '\xff' > >>> What version of OSX are you using? On Tiger 10.4.11 I see the failure you see but on Leopard 10.5.6 th

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues with process and discussions (Re: Issues with Py3.1's new ipaddr)

2009-06-03 Thread Ned Deily
luding this one, the bugs list, and code checkins. It also supports posting via your news reader, rss feeds, searching, and several web interfaces. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.bugs http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.cvs http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel http://dir.gmane

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues with process and discussions (Re: Issues with Py3.1's new ipaddr)

2009-06-04 Thread Ned Deily
In article <20090604173400.gb25...@idyll.org>, "C. Titus Brown" wrote: > Something like MarkMail (as Dirkjan mentioned) may have a better > interface. I'll give it a try. Or http://search.gmane.org/ with group gmane.comp.python.devel --

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6.3

2009-09-09 Thread Ned Deily
goal". Without trying to put Ronald on the spot (too much!), it would be a good idea to get his assessment where things stand wrt 2.6 on 10.6 before setting a final release date. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-De

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6.3

2009-09-10 Thread Ned Deily
In article <9d506035-7c2d-4929-a134-e88eeb7b7...@python.org>, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 9, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > > > In article <11a6545d-7204-4f61-b55b-1cc77cb56...@python.org>, > > Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> I still want to release by t

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.7 Mac universal builds seem broken on trunk

2009-09-26 Thread Ned Deily
hough, that universal build support on 10.6 is a bit of a work in progress as there are still some interesting unexplained universal build issues when building on Snow Leopard (see, for instance, the comments in http://bugs.python.org/issue6957). At the moment, the focus is on getting 2.6.

Re: [Python-Dev] test_thread tracebacks

2009-09-29 Thread Ned Deily
#x27;s not a new problem: http://bugs.python.org/issue6186 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] test_thread tracebacks

2009-09-29 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > In article <760dc0c1-64ab-491e-8c7f-725724904...@python.org>, > Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:43 PM, s...@pobox.com wrote: > > > It's been awhile since I rebuilt Python and ran the test suite. This > > &g

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6.3

2009-09-29 Thread Ned Deily
In article <9d506035-7c2d-4929-a134-e88eeb7b7...@python.org>, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 9, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > > The recent release of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) has triggered a fair > > amount of 2.6 bug tracker activity, since 10.6 now includes 2.6 >

[Python-Dev] Package install failures in 2.6.3

2009-10-05 Thread Ned Deily
like there should be some effort to make package maintainers aware of the problem so they can take whatever steps necessary to update their packages or help files or web sites etc. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils and Distribute roadmap (and some words on Virtualenv, Pip)

2009-10-08 Thread Ned Deily
ly be giving a clear direction to all of the major groups involved: end users, package developers, distributors. How to decide on and then effectively communicate that direction is not at all trivial, I think. Thanks again for your hard work on this, Tarek! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org __

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils and Distribute roadmap (and some words on Virtualenv, Pip)

2009-10-08 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Ned Deily acm.org> writes: > > How to decide on and then effectively > > communicate that direction is not at all trivial, I think. > > I think it's quite trivial actually. Since everybody agrees (except perhaps > PJE)

Re: [Python-Dev] /trunk test_distutils failing on Mac OS X 10.5

2009-11-29 Thread Ned Deily
either is Tarek... I'll see if I can track down why. I don't > think I installed anything other than the minimum necessary to build > Python, but that's a bit worrisome. I'm also seeing it on 10.5. Investigating... -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org _

Re: [Python-Dev] bug triage

2010-01-06 Thread Ned Deily
mirrored at gmane.org which means it can also be obtained via a newsreader (NNTP) or various RSS feeds. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.bugs -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.o

[Python-Dev] 3.1.2 / 2.6.5 maintenance releases?

2010-01-16 Thread Ned Deily
sume that some critical problem could trigger planning for an update on short notice; is there a time-limit trigger as well? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1.2 / 2.6.5 maintenance releases?

2010-01-17 Thread Ned Deily
In article <4b53135a.7060...@gmail.com>, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Ned Deily acm.org> writes: > >> I've recently seen a couple of references to 3.1.2 go by in > >> checkins which made me wonder whether dates have been proposed yet

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-13 Thread Ned Deily
hat nobody has seen fit to (or had > time to) reply to this mail in three weeks. Wasn't that problem fixed weeks ago? The installer image has been available there since several days after the release. And the link seems fine now. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-14 Thread Ned Deily
py to help with that myself, although my time to do so will be very limited for the next few weeks. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-15 Thread Ned Deily
nfiguration parameters for those interested in setting up buildbots. (There may be some delay, though, as I will have limited time and Internet access for the next three weeks.) -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-15 Thread Ned Deily
to build these modules: > _tkinter currently only supported for 32-bit archs as there was no 64-bit (non-X) Tk on OS X prior to 10.6 and there are unresolved problems with the 10.6 Apple-supplied Tk 8.5 and 2.6.x IDLE (Issue6864). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org __

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-15 Thread Ned Deily
In article <4bc61278.7020...@v.loewis.de>, "Martin v. Lowis" wrote: > Ned Deily wrote: > > That *is* something that the PSF could help with. I > > would be happy to help with that myself, although my time to do so will > > be very limited for the nex

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-15 Thread Ned Deily
l. If it were working that could be of use. It would not be able to run OS X 10.6 but having a 10.5 system PPC system as a buildbot would certainly be useful; it should be fine for the default installer configuration builds. (Alas, I don't expect to be anywhere in the vicinity in the fore

Re: [Python-Dev] proto-pep: plugin proposal (for unittest)

2010-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
. Terminal.app does? What file is that? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding a token

2010-08-07 Thread Ned Deily
prevent problems like that by specifying a non-default framework name with the --with-framework-name= option to configure. See Mac/README. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/l

Re: [Python-Dev] Update Shell profile for ZSH on Mac OS

2010-08-26 Thread Ned Deily
lly; if not, someone will see it and update appropriately. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ar

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker BD Was:Goodbye

2010-09-23 Thread Ned Deily
misleading as people follow this list (and other Python-related lists) through other interfaces, such as those provided by gmane.org (NNTP, RSS, web). Helps to keep the mailbox clutter down. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing l

[Python-Dev] Version fields [was Re: Goodbye]

2010-09-24 Thread Ned Deily
se of the version field and possibly other fields. In issue workflow documentation, there should be some description of how "release blocker" should work, perhaps including something along the lines of "once a release enters stage , 'release blocker' priority should only

Re: [Python-Dev] Build failure in test_cmd_line on OSX-x86

2010-10-08 Thread Ned Deily
you'll see LANG set. But if you execute via launchd or ssh (for instance), it will not automatically be set unless you do something like explicitly set and export it in a shell startup file. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] r85838 - python/branches/py3k/.gitignore

2010-10-26 Thread Ned Deily
ed-in .hgignore file when creating my own hg repo (to use mq patch management) on top of a svn checkout. Now that I know they are there, I ensure they get deleted. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org ht

Re: [Python-Dev] r85838 - python/branches/py3k/.gitignore

2010-10-26 Thread Ned Deily
rser.NoOptionError: default = '' if default.startswith('/'): subprocess.check_call([HG_BIN, 'pull', '-R', default], cwd=default) subprocess.check_call([HG_BIN, 'pull', '-u', '--rebase'

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-16 Thread Ned Deily
; File > "/Users/buildbot/buildarea/3.x.parc-tiger-1/build/Lib/test/script_helper.py" > , line 48, in assert_python_ok > return _assert_python(True, *args, **env_vars) > File > "/Users/buildbot/buildarea/3.x.parc-tiger-1/build/Lib/test/script_helper.p

Re: [Python-Dev] Solaris family and 64 bits compiling

2010-11-22 Thread Ned Deily
27;s probably both simpler and more complicated than would be needed elsewhere: on OS X, a single file can contain object codes for multiple architectures, e.g 32-bit and 64-bit, rather than having to have multiple files. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org _

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r87118 - in python/branches/py3k: Mac/BuildScript/build-installer.py Makefile.pre.in

2010-12-07 Thread Ned Deily
module? There is no guarantee which version of Python the build-installer script is being run with and, hence, no guarantee which version of sysconfig is available. Typically it is an older system-supplied Python which is fine as it is merely used to run build-installer (which includes runn

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe instead of

2011-01-06 Thread Ned Deily
for example, you get ./python. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe instead of

2011-01-08 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:04, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article , > >  brett.cannon wrote: > > [...] > >> summary: > >>   Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe > >> instead >

Re: [Python-Dev] devguide: Point out that OS X users need to change examples to use python.exe instead of

2011-01-10 Thread Ned Deily
e the bug report and fix the app. I thought I noticed that Apple was starting to ship new machines formatted as case-insensitive but I may be imagining that. OTOH, there have been Unixy packages that break on case-insensitive systems, also arguably a bug. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org __

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

2011-03-06 Thread Ned Deily
on and system" > -"the make install command and the Mac OS X installer in the 2.7 version of > CPython will be adjusted to create the new python2 command in addition to > the existing python and python2.7 commands" FYI - I will have some comments on the PEP, primarily with re

Re: [Python-Dev] What does the "m" mean for the Mac OS X include folder?

2011-03-06 Thread Ned Deily
the PSF also plays the role of binaries/installer distributor so some things specific to those installers may need to be documented outside of the standard Python documentation set (or properly noted). Feel free to open an issue if you feel something should be changed (code or d

[Python-Dev] Obsolete content at http://www.python.org/dev/* ?

2011-03-07 Thread Ned Deily
guide -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

2011-03-08 Thread Ned Deily
X 2to3-2 (no need for 2 versions) alt = installed by "make altinstall" ins = installed by "make install" Y = installed m = optional combination of "d", "m", "u" + = currently in PEP 394

Re: [Python-Dev] Introductions

2011-03-12 Thread Ned Deily
, to hear and see our barks. It was good to meet some more of you all in person, if all too briefly, at the language summit on Thursday. Alas, I was unable to stay for the rest of PyCon but Ronald and I had a chance to spend some quality time together again brainstorming issues in the OS X are

Re: [Python-Dev] Generating patch files

2011-03-16 Thread Ned Deily
stributing a script that called the API in any way taint Python? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] I am now lost - committed, pulled, merged, what is "collapse"?

2011-03-19 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Nick Coghlan wrote: > Mercurial isn't really all that different, but it's distributed nature > means it want to keep track of even minor things like the local > whitespace fixes and the merger of your changes with the other changes > that were pushed since you started work. So the e

Re: [Python-Dev] I am now lost - committed, pulled, merged, what is "collapse"?

2011-03-20 Thread Ned Deily
In article <4d86be29.8070...@netwok.org>, Éric Araujo wrote: > Le 20/03/2011 02:59, Ned Deily a écrit : > > On a Unix-y system, here is one way to do it (no warranty on the > > installation instructions!): > With all due respect, the instructions are overly complic

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-21 Thread Ned Deily
ly need a strip count of 0. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Policy for versions of system python

2011-04-04 Thread Ned Deily
with 2.3 as > the system Python, by the way. The system Python on Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) is Python 2.3. For 10.5 (Leopard) it's 2.5. 10.6 (Snow Leopard) has both 2.6 and 2.5. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@

Re: [Python-Dev] funky buildbot problems again...

2011-04-07 Thread Ned Deily
;t > you install Python 2.6 (from python.org) separately and install Twisted > into that? +1 That should have no impact that I can think of on any buildbot testing as python.org framework builds are entirely self-contained. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org _

Re: [Python-Dev] "packaging" merge imminent

2011-05-17 Thread Ned Deily
er itself, i.e. its setup.py for the standard library extension modules? Will the existing distutils code continue to be used for that? Or is it being replaced by code in packaging? If so, have Python builds been tested yet on the various platforms? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___

Re: [Python-Dev] "packaging" merge imminent

2011-05-17 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Ned Deily wrote: > > Just to be clear: what about for the build of the interpreter itself, > > i.e. its setup.py for the standard library extension modules?  Will the > > existing distutils code continu

Re: [Python-Dev] in latest Py3k site.py: configparser.NoSectionError: No section: 'posix_prefix'

2011-05-20 Thread Ned Deily
nything that needs adaptation on > our side (I hope not), or should I file a bug report? It's a bug introduced by the packaging (Distutils2) feature. Thanks for finding it first. http://bugs.python.org/issue12131 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots update

2011-05-23 Thread Ned Deily
of-trunk MacPorts may not officially support 10.4, many ports work there just fine including python2.6, 2.7, and 3.1. (3.2 has a build issue that may get fixed in 3.2.1). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] packaging was not getting installed

2011-06-14 Thread Ned Deily
#x27;m not sure the Fellowship intends for every > subdir to get installed, so please double check. I just added everything that > came from `find Lib/packaging -type d`. http://bugs.python.org/issue12313 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-De

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: remove duplicate -I

2011-06-28 Thread Ned Deily
ollowing change which works for me (but not tested elsewhere): -PY_CPPFLAGS= -I. -IInclude $(CONFIGURE_CPPFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) +PY_CPPFLAGS= -I. -I$(srcdir)/Include $(CONFIGURE_CPPFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev ma

[Python-Dev] svn.python.org confusion

2011-06-28 Thread Ned Deily
just be disabled totally for python? -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] svn.python.org confusion

2011-06-29 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 03:05, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > Ned Deily acm.org> writes: > >> Could some text be added to the svn browser pages to at least indicate > >> that the repo is no longer being updated with a link to the > &g

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEPs] Rebooting PEP 394 (aka Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream)

2011-07-18 Thread Ned Deily
but perhaps the wording should be changed to make a suggestion about hard links vs syminks rather than mandate which should be used. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

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