:PEP: XXX
:Title: Consolidating names and classes in the `unittest` module
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"Benjamin Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Use new-style classes throughout
> >
> >
> > The following classes will inherit explicitly
asses in the `unittest` module
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"Benjamin Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The `unittest` module will gain the following attribute, to set the
> > default metaclass for classes in the module and thus make all
t; (IMO).
Yes, this is something that deserves consideration.
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Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > "Benjamin Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Line 94-95 in unittest.py (trunk):
> >> # All classes defined herein are 'new-style' classes, allowing use of
> >&
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney writes:
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> > Removal of ``assert*`` names
> >
> >
> > There is no overwhelming consensus on whether to remove the
> > ``assert*`` names or th
redundant names in the API.
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> > What makes that happen in the case where a class declares no
> > superclass? Is there an invisible enforced "__metaclass__ = type"
> > for every module? Where can I read about this change?
>
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> > That mea
Consolidating names in the `unittest` module
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Yes. While I prefer the 'fail*' names, I would prefer to lose *either*
of 'assert*' or 'fail*' than to retain redundant names in the API.
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I'm inclined to agree that it's not right for 2.x. I'll revise the PEP
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Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 15 2008 at 07:38:59PM BRT, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The "consistency" argument leads to the PEP 8 names. The removal
> > of redundant names is not made in the name of c
the changes.
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This PEP proposes to consolida
:PEP: XXX
:Title: Frequently-requested additional features for the `unittest`
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:Last-Modified: 2008-07-16
:Author: Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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:Type: Standards Track
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> > Andrew Bennetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > > This one is easily solved by making assertRaises return the
> > > exception it caught.
> >
> > That breaks one
Andrew Bennetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Andrew Bennetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > > How is returning None a feature?
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> > A test method having exactly one meaning is a feature. If it's
> &g
u have changed the API. Test code is particularly
> sensitive to such changes.
I agree entirely with this.
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> You're proposing to give "assertRaises" a *new* meaning, without
> changing its name to "assertRaisesAndReturnExceptionIfRaises".
This might be misunderstood, so I'll make it clearer.
The name "assert r
"Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The result I'm trying to avoid by this is that of having the
> > externally visible behaviour of functions drift from the promise
"Steven D'Aprano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:26:45 am Raymond Hettinger wrote:
> > From: "Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > Right, so I'm putting up a separate PEP just for the renaming.
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> >> No, you tell them: "If you want Unicode 6 semantics, use regex, if
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> > What
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> >> […] using rename() on POSIX systems and MoveFileEx() on Windows
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> >
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Ben Finney writes:
> Georg Brandl writes:
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> > list of possible features for 3.3 as specified by PEP 398:
> >
> > Candidate PEPs:
> […]
>
> > * PEP 3143: Standard daemon process library
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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Ben Finney
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> > Unambiguous storage of absolute time can be achieved with POSIX
> > timestamps, but that is certainly not the only nor best way to do
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> > For example, RFC 5322 sp
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