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> > Perhaps also of note is that the FHS recommends systems use
> > ‘/var/cache/foo/’ for cached data from applications:
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> > /var/cache : Application cache data
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> > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html
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> > current target. What change should I make to the PEP in such a case?
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> Put 3.3 or 3.x if you're thinking really long term. :)
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> > class) to the TestCase subclass. I would prefer not to use multiple
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> > > It's been suggested that […] if people had added symlinks first,
> > > no one would've bothered adding hardlinks.
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> >
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