[Python-Dev] NO CHECKINS - BETA 2 COMING

2008-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please, no checkins on the 3.0 or 2.6 branches until further notice. We're a go with the releases tonight. Email is not the quickest way to get my attention. For that, use irc on freenode, #python-dev. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGN

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
remove it from 2.6, but we can certainly start end-of-lifing it in 2.6. +1, but please, after I make tonight's releases. :) - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSIAFenEjvBPtnXfVAQKEewP+OWCBAH437X4+EptdcuIFFYrCCVXqbrV4 F2dZMyv/RU0jYgd6YTLspklEIzuE

[Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6b2 and 3.0b2

2008-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
/releases/3.0/ See PEP 361 for release schedule details: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/ Enjoy, - -Barry Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin

[Python-Dev] SVN IS OPEN

2008-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
we can to stabilize these releases, address the blockers, and turn those buildbots green. Thanks everyone. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSIATAHEjvBPtnXfVAQIWLAP+OVUXh3H5j8WN4cm3fHcLkgd+E4FuWWwb zKr7JPYUHhgvwpYB5iZjQuJe/62qKXh70wNWyDcxLi9/TEbx8NvhQ+nM

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
stuck with it for the remaining 2.x, at least we can stop the buildbots from going red for bugs that we can't debug and probably won't fix. +1 - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSIDsxXEjvBPtnXfVAQJ6egP+O0HQPj9X7te1X3CbPBRN8RhadJucaD

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-2.6b2.tar.bz missing sig file on web site

2008-07-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
his is the correct place to report this. It is, thanks. Looks like I forgot to svn add those files. Please try again now. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSIK9KHEjvBPtnXfVAQLBdwQAok5D6yqAkfOEHjvq5YEVuOwnLLWz1UbV Y/bH6Q7lxnh4aIKJn2Mty82fLM

[Python-Dev] Web site type: Python 2.6b2 Released: 18-Jun-2008

2008-07-20 Thread Barry Scott
I think you mean july. Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Any PEP about 2.6 -> 3000 code transition?

2008-07-20 Thread Barry Scott
See http://code.google.com/p/python-incompatibility/source/checkout Barry On Jul 19, 2008, at 03:25, Jesus Cea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: | On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Since I need to po

Re: [Python-Dev] Web site type: Python 2.6b2 Released: 18-Jun-2008

2008-07-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 20, 2008, at 3:44 AM, Barry Scott wrote: I think you mean july. Thanks, I'll fix that. - -B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSIMuQXEjvBPtnXfVAQLFVwP/SYQkNNHnReOOuPxnnJQkNqKTnDYLpZqT

Re: [Python-Dev] Any PEP about 2.6 -> 3000 code transition?

2008-07-24 Thread Barry Scott
t need fixing up going from beta to beta to rc. Oh and I'm not going to try and make a version of PyCXX that works on 2.x and 3.x as the changes are too fundamental. Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailma

[Python-Dev] 3.0 C API to decode bytes into unicode?

2008-08-01 Thread Barry Scott
I cannot see how I implement decode() for bytes objects using the C API for PyCXX library, I'd assuming that I should find a PyBytes_Decode function but cannot find it in beta 2. What is the preferred way to do this? Barry ___ Python-Dev ma

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.0 C API to decode bytes into unicode?

2008-08-02 Thread Barry Scott
On Aug 1, 2008, at 14:30, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 2008-08-01 15:06, Barry Scott wrote: I cannot see how I implement decode() for bytes objects using the C API for PyCXX library, I'd assuming that I should find a PyBytes_Decode function but cannot find it in beta 2. What is the pref

Re: [Python-Dev] Py3k tasks spreadsheet

2008-08-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
lease blocker", "critical" or "high priority" ones (there are quite a lot of them :-)). Just to add: there's also a 'deferred blocker' state, but right now there are no issues with that priority. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.

Re: [Python-Dev] String concatenation

2008-08-08 Thread Barry Scott
uot;) return def I_do_not_like_this(): s = '''a multi line that break the indent of the function" return Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Any PEP about 2.6 -> 3000 code transition?

2008-08-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
code review at this point since we only have one beta left. Barry can correct me if I am wrong, but dropping a major rewrite of bsddb into 3.0 between b3 and rc1 is not acceptable. I wouldn't be surprised if all code after b3 requires a code review since at that point we should just be squashing

Re: [Python-Dev] next beta

2008-08-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 11, 2008, at 5:51 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Barry Warsaw python.org> writes: I agree. Our last beta is scheduled for this wednesday Are you sure? According to http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2008-July/014269.html , i

Re: [Python-Dev] next beta

2008-08-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: Ah darn, that's a typo in the PEP. I definitely meant August 13, as the Google calendar shows. Do we think we can be ready for beta3 this Wednesday? If not, I'd rather stick to

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
hon-ideas either, but I'd be willing to start a testing SIG on python.org if others are interested in getting together for this purpose. The goal should be to produce something like a unittest-ng, distribute it via the Cheeseshop, and gather consensus around it for possible inclus

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
propriate there. Ah, thanks for the pointer. If there's a good existing list that people want to keep, let's just raise its profile and point people there. I'm happy to create a SIG though if that's what people want. /me-subscribes-now-ly y'rs, - -Barry -BEGIN

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
might be a good place to continue this discussion, at least until/if unittest-ng is created. Thanks Titus. I'm subscribing to that list now, but I fear the bikeshed. :) - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKGrOHEjvBPtn

Re: [Python-Dev] Maintaining old releases

2008-08-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
ill never get released. There's a difference between never being released, and unavailable in the source repository. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKNiEXEjvBPtnXfVAQIQgAP6A84mpv0JUkP4Z904TzoYDuqb3OtCNBMc wo+VGw00p9JJ0f4lWRmXSkim

Re: [Python-Dev] Maintaining old releases

2008-08-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
esn't get done. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKNjW3EjvBPtnXfVAQLCLwP/QEFeXZstWcEuLbicMuqipREQsruTJW9v SJURMYCZBdfkgiTm3cr2MVK9e/FpX7FUvhCKlAOpyAFOWM3FFiv/J+wBRNHcli2p NHYbG8scmUHwVZ1oL1pWr7NLgECh0DsXBTWWubRyR3XqG1bdnk+B0wKuzcxNOH5Y McLahXhN

Re: [Python-Dev] Maintaining old releases

2008-08-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
for closing 2.6 and 3.0 now, and add them to PEP 361. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKOvzXEjvBPtnXfVAQImrAP+IZHk711jPL8GdfrFiENt0KgGD5vjjg/g kxgBsyVWi/wOonM0cFUABzSxBzfCOPd1eWtD54bs4rk32sXA+v3qtoHKylPsv/0O 8WUq4dXZ3LLn7D50WKWrJNIKTlAaxoH+OWCKK+qga

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we help pythonmac.org?

2008-08-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
py to arrange things with a Mac expert to put the Mac binaries on the download site. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKmpOHEjvBPtnXfVAQJNFAQAiQu+ZgeHoi7fzF7NWwqDoP4AAH8UNF5B 6JL74CmJnarhZ40dum3RUz+bEM3Htfik+baMUInCEz+hlOBBbZi9qTyVxTdA9z

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

2008-08-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
, but like Fred, I don't use it. I do agree that we could and probably should maintain any Mac Python content on the main python.org site, but also if Bob wants to donate the domain, we can just have it forward to www.python.org/allyourmacsarebelongtous - -Barry

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] parse_qs and parse_qsl functions

2008-08-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
l, but I think it's fine to do what you are proposing. I think it's fine to commit this. I would put a DeprecationWarning in 3.0 and a PendingDeprecationWarning in 2.6 (updated to a DW in 2.7). - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIqja42YZpQepb

[Python-Dev] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

2008-08-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
ident this will get fixed before beta 3. As for the buildbots, they're not looking so good. It looks like the trunk has various failures in multiprocessing (hopefully fixed soon) and bsddb3. Also some crashes in test_anydbm. Hmm. 3.0 is looking better but there's a weird error in tes

[Python-Dev] Hanging out on freenode IRC #python-dev

2008-08-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
, I'm generally available from about 7am to about 7pm US Eastern (UTC -0400) time. Cheers, - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKrEGHEjvBPtnXfVAQKCZAP+JyldH4bq1MO/0s5cJYDIM1hKNuXTm488 Ys/scWaPb7zBGi5/+Wdbwmle82EAsl3SDH6yDzjzhvgHOkOdsvaCP2bbVaX

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

2008-08-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
t that's what bug reports are for :). - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKrMhXEjvBPtnXfVAQKprwQAsuckU4jw5B+asnd6XNqCjuOuIDYRuv3w sOlfn76qwoxaA9KJe7aCBOcoXpUnB4ibEm8O403LYV9izRXf62xgGdyVWTS73yEc Sj6maoeIIO9ph7/p7eWT0Hl3pVmphsiLRgd7usyDSeRf+8ncXmE8Clr7

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Beta 3 planned for this Wednesday

2008-08-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1878class attribute cache failure (regression) - - Medium priority - - Guido, there are some design choice

Re: [Python-Dev] [Pydotorg] Should we help pythonmac.org?

2008-08-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
Python environment isn't just right. I think it's a /good/ thing that some OS distros are heavily invested in Python for their core operation. We just need to understand the best practices when they are. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Dar

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does httplib import from test_support?

2008-08-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
rt that had a different default. I will get to this when I can, although I am sure Barry won't be too upset if this misses b3. Nope. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKsZd3EjvBPtnXfVAQLGRAQAhVwJLkwi/+ZlW7x53sKyyMEf+pJj7UTK l0MjS/J

[Python-Dev] Releasing beta 3's tonight

2008-08-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
ython-dev if you need an immediate decision. Thanks. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSKyecnEjvBPtnXfVAQJ4DgQAg7hNzp76nUT8/dA4C2xTqwL+mmtXeu2s MLbez1xVk3IoU3J/GRRcposaUQKoPToophndj1yk57v/g/AtrXIAjFRXkqH7giU5 eD7Wlt

[Python-Dev] 2.6 on Windows

2008-08-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
.6 Windows buildbots looking green after the beta. These will definitely block the release candidates. Thanks, - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIrLXw2YZpQepbvXERAkn7AJwNNoq+ApgeP/j8TyPL4x71SPju5QCePzdw KC5QXa1Tk72OSTmQIelU2hs= =zYog -END PGP

[Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6b3 and 3.0b3

2008-08-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6/ and the Python 3.0 web site: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/ See PEP 361 for release schedule details: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/ Enjoy, - -Barry Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6 on Windows

2008-08-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
1 test in the bsddb3 tests. Thanks Mark. If we can't get bsddb3 running cleanly, we'll have to add an item to the release notes about it. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSK1fgHEjvBPtnXfVAQLu2wP8D5dBf6wAeGgOgK

Re: [Python-Dev] Should we help pythonmac.org?

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Scott
far. Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Unicode 5.1.0

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
bag over our heads. Slipping to get yet one more feature in is not (IMO) acceptable. An incentive for keeping the schedule: If we hit our October 1st deadline, then 2.6 and 3.0 will almost certainly be included in some upcoming major new OS releases. If we slip, then it's unlikel

Re: [Python-Dev] subprocess insufficiently platform-independent?

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
rguments that allow it to "just work" on both Windows and non-Windows systems. Unless I'm misremembering (I no longer have access to Windows), I believe that if you use ' '.join(cmd) as the first argument, it will work cross-platform. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

Re: [Python-Dev] Unicode 5.1.0

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
'd vote no for 2.6/3.0. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSLLtMnEjvBPtnXfVAQKg0wP+LJ1XYXhEQHUAvT3fPbPzStCN8Lb+D7XG hZOANnTCbPGaeCY19B8mYZbXkvjkCBptauKGB5yGOAnb1KCkSaQWx0wCInkeyIFE mVMupGZCUsdsO7KreEwvyhBpOJ/HNY0+eacv8GZKCwC9xW3WmhaOjry7sZFhjffw hAX

Re: [Python-Dev] subprocess insufficiently platform-independent?

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Oleg Broytmann wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 01:30:58PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: Unless I'm misremembering (I no longer have access to Windows), I believe that if you use ' '.join(cmd) as the first ar

Re: [Python-Dev] Unicode 5.1.0

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: I agree. This seriously feels like new, potentially high risk code to be adding this late in the game. The BDFL can always override, but unless someone is really

Re: [Python-Dev] Unicode 5.1.0

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
o the Unicode database: http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UCD.html The main file used for the unicodedata module is called "UnicodeData.txt". That's much less scary. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSLMDCHEjv

Re: [Python-Dev] Unicode 5.1.0

2008-08-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: You don't mean the experts claimed they weren't important, right? Unimportant changes definitely don't need to go in now . Well, at least Guido managed to fi

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial mirrors

2008-08-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
org/hg/ Cool! It's nice to have these become "official". My hg branches are all pointing to your site. Can I easily relocate the parent branch? Actually, right now anything that's not Subversion is still experimental. But agreed that it's nice Mercurial and Bazaar are av

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial mirrors

2008-08-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
t Thomas and Martin (who are both also probably pretty swamped) probably know how we did it. If not before, we should spend time after the releases in making this available. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSLSS03EjvBPtnXf

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable / unstable buildbots

2008-08-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
ealth of the trees. I don't think the current list needs to be set in stone, and in fact several of the "stable" bots have had simple svn or other non-tree related problems for a while. As for the "unstable" ones, I personally rarely check them. - -B

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6b3 Windows installers

2008-09-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
a Windows installer build, I'd suggest to postpone the RC1 release that's planned for tomorrow to get more feedback for the Windows builds. I'd rather still release the rc tomorrow. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6b3 Windows installers

2008-09-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 2, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:09 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: I suppose this is

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] bsddb finished for 2.6/3.0 (and ": str() on a bytes instance")

2008-09-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: and I know Brett agrees, so that's it. On IRC, I've just asked Benjamin to do the honors for 3.0 and Brett will add the deprecations for 2.6. I just committed the fix

[Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
ppreciate any feedback or fixes you can provide on these issues. You might also want to look at the deferred blockers to see if there's anything that really should be blocking rc1. I'd like to try again on Friday and stick to rc2 on the 17th. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:14 AM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: [Barry] I'm not going to release rc1 tonight. Can I go ahead with some bug fixes and doc improvements or should I wait until after Friday? Doc fixes are fine. Please have bug fix pa

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Mark Hammond wrote: Barry writes: In addition, Mark reported in IRC that there are some regressions in the logging module. 3772 logging module fails with non-ascii data Which according to the IRC discussion doesn&#

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry> In addition, Mark reported in IRC that there are some regressions Barry> in the logging module. Vinay apparently checked in some changes to the logging module with no

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Facundo Batista wrote: (I'll be hanging around in #python-dev today and tomorrow, btw, ping me if I can help you) Me too, though I'm a bit busy at work. Ping my nick 'barry' if you need a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 4, 2008, at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry> Or did he commit Mark's patch from bug 3772? If so, that would Barry> count as a reviewed patch. The checkin message says issue 3726: Author: vinay.sajip Da

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: I'm not going to release rc1 tonight. There are too many open release blockers that I don't want to defer, and I'd like the buildbots to churn through the b

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 7, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: (I have a few minor ET fixes, and possibly a Unicode 5.1 patch, but have had absolutely no time to spend on that. is the window still open?) There are 8 open release

Re: [Python-Dev] Not releasing rc1 tonight

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 8, 2008, at 7:37 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:02:06PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: There are 8 open release blockers, a few of which have patches that need review. So I think we are still not ready to release rc1

[Python-Dev] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
ll of these problems in the next day or two. I propose that we push the entire schedule back two weeks. This means that the planned rc2 on 17-September becomes our rc1. The planned final release for 01-October becomes our rc2, and we release the finals on 15-October. - -Barry

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r66321 - in python/trunk: Doc/library/warnings.rst Lib/asynchat.py Lib/bsddb/test/test_early_close.py Lib/mimetools.py Lib/test/test___all__.py Lib/test/test_excepti

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
ceptable. Or at least name it something that doesn't scream "use me in a way I don't intend!". - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSMZrfHEjvBPtnXfVAQI6DgP8DyNKZyR846u1Qpgbr4X3wOM1J6EcqSlW 74WGUoU80MDWH5wvagAl7Er90oEh0QhX4ogX8UgF8iLSOC7

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
ehind If we can close them by Wednesday or Thursday, and the 2.6 bots stay green, I will cut the 2.6rc1 release this week and the 2.6rc2 and final on schedule. If you're on board with this, please do what you can to resolve these open issues. As always, I'm on irc if you need to disc

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
's far enough along, though not as the primary Python version. They clearly want 2.6 for that. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSMZ4cXEjvBPtnXfVAQL4ygP/fLILvf3NhvmN3R2T7htGm08xt/bOBYGt +BDrV4rapS4j3jo2Cx+McEdjJZCdq9x7BIaTN+4ITwq02LEY5fmh

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
for possible integration into the core for 3.1. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSMZ40XEjvBPtnXfVAQK2WQP/e3N2rYD2rbsoynEnXvAjzF8lPoPRFDvl hbjERsbB93uSoBPHaTdjtXnW+InC0W4GC5ogHF9wARbzYTJaxx09WmjihX+PvgsW JhXwLpG3gtyclfqSAF8MWZHc4UnKnyUt5UgYBlZ

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed revised schedule

2008-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
es. The latter seems like the wisest choice to meet our goals. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSMZ5L3EjvBPtnXfVAQJwSQP/U7FFFI8ao5Xesf6F3QFIUMYFeISrlhof 9ynkQXAskUMelAfayGMSd2nD2+buXA7gyBWplAAEF2rtLhZ3N0+zeh/2HnqcY0b9 EtUM5shAIMlb2948IMoXlxSMplH5auBHM

[Python-Dev] Updated release schedule for 2.6 and 3.0

2008-09-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
Sep 2.6rc2, 3.0rc1 Wed 01-Oct 2.6 final, 3.0rc2 Wed 15-Oct 3.0 final I've updated the Python Release Schedule gcal and will update the PEP momentarily. We'll close the tree later tonight (UTC-4). - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSMp

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Updated release schedule for 2.6 and 3.0

2008-09-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 12, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We had a lot of discussion recently about changing the release schedule and splitting Python 2.6 and 3.0. The

[Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6rc1

2008-09-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/ Enjoy, - -Barry Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSMsXV3EjvBPtnXfVAQJFsgP9GxZYQocbDTd0Z/0yEjpHfZ/FTd8y83jV

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6rc1

2008-09-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:59 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am happy to announce the first release candidate for Python 2.6. In http://www.python.org/download/releases

[Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6rc2 and 3.0rc1

2008-09-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
/download/releases/2.6/ and the Python 3.0 web site: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/ See PEP 361 for release schedule details: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/ Enjoy, - -Barry Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python

[Python-Dev] Python documentation

2008-09-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
xpert . Please let me know if you can help. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSNOLBnEjvBPtnXfVAQIQnAQAm6thEThGufep6hzHxBwAN8MTsLb9jxsu Z8GAtX1bdMNOrJczYpU6by0oXPLR2pupnGV1YrAyQyoqpk+K7W8by5Qtg8+ZZcYH GerkqMVtNYn2zY1HhKigivp2JvlqIidRc5D36XS2EJixhZEPc

Re: [Python-Dev] Python documentation

2008-09-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:03 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Barry Warsaw schrieb: Martin points out that in the past, as part of the release process, we've built separate downloadable documentation. Do we still want to do that for Python 2.6 and 3.0, a

Re: [Python-Dev] okay to add new test cases to 2.6?

2008-09-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
dbots, I think it's fine. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSNlSHXEjvBPtnXfVAQKQ3gP/XJr97CdjZitwSQxrL28xCuLyPfKmtBVA 2hK2ewQxH9Rxrl0BsFZlnBz2vEygPmPWnduu8VT+sjsrFu/Ua9d1Xo06lQ6/fFck Tp/en0KlAyJ6Pjf/1pWahn4ttwk74YG02LiQgUsfOaIUG+8cMfGfrtyUzwGBoKhW 4

Re: [Python-Dev] json decoder speedups, any time left for 2.6?

2008-09-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
.1 release without causing any major harm is definitely out - and while a 2x speedup is very nice, it isn't something to be squeezing in post-rc1. Still, that should make for a nice incremental improvement when 2.6.1 rolls around. I concur. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Versio

[Python-Dev] Reminder: Python 2.6 final next Wednesday

2008-09-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
it flakey until Wednesday, but I will do my best to get online and follow up as needed. Please pitch in to help get Python 2.6 released on time! Thanks, - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSN1hJnEjvBPtnXfVAQIQfQQAgYr0tuzJhm3LZX/1S

[Python-Dev] Python 2.6 final today

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
ay, just to see how building the docs and such go. I'm still planning on doing the final final release at about 2200UTC. If you need to coordinate with me (e.g. press releases, Windows builds, etc.) please meeting me on #python-dev on irc.freenode.net. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP S

Re: [Python-Dev] Python security team

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
;re willing to actually get stuff done :). Clearly the current team is too swamped to act effectively, myself included. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOOe3XEjvBPtnXfVAQJ5JgP/dDg+SPLeQ4yBQ/CYxJEh3/Xm2B+2KV5U 9RUjp7W7z2iC/Bz7qwJlui0Z

[Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6 final

2008-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
ad/releases/2.6/ (Please note that due to quirks in the earth's time zones, the Windows installers will be available shortly.) Bugs can be reported in the Python bug tracker: http://bugs.python.org Enjoy, - -Barry Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6 final

2008-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
d now. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOS6g3EjvBPtnXfVAQKw5wP+I2L6qPZWp1qDs7qSRdlOE5xSAazhnuzE h7gCUWah0tcewuJC38cE7kNAVkpmp9suBbGgI+FRYTeJJpoO109Io4cF4fRvYd2H NpVfhIOo6VUchNTnsdtP4UzuaIKnkCKgWxMPPjMW9jEZlHPNdOC8stTsxOq1FWFt hlJscML5yQA= =wPLO -EN

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6 final

2008-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final. This is the production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2

Re: [Python-Dev] for __future__ import planning

2008-10-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
with four active trees, we're going to a pretty big challenge on our hands. How do other large open source projects handle similar situations? - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOajHXEjvBPtnXfVAQJ5qgP+I6k+kHMG2z

Re: [Python-Dev] for __future__ import planning

2008-10-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
along well. I'm planning to spend some time next time around on updating large parts of the web site automatically. Or maybe Benjamin will when he's RM :) - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOei8XEjvBPtnXfVAQLm+wQAgctR3FuylGaST4Y55JIpo8

[Python-Dev] porting pycxx and pysvn to python 3.0 hit a problem

2008-10-05 Thread Barry Scott
ions on what to check please. I've assumed that if my objects support tp_hash and tp_compare they can be used as keys to a dictionary. My test scripts shows hash() and cmp() working. Why does "key in wc_status_kind_wc" work when I use an object returned by keys() by not w

[Python-Dev] Proposed Python 3.0 schedule

2008-10-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
need two more betas? - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOqxvnEjvBPtnXfVAQIR5QP/coSi2ltsZSpE2dyUg7Y35QcSk/+4ZbGK zF0AgLaOkGs+DFnxRH9vy9kN3JaEkp1MhEpDjkomE7kNpnJB7bWotTrHI67HD9ma ZDqqmaCc02IeUtLm7HuELvofjCgh+gryKWvRc71ErRHmn/YxMGr1OcEirPpx4nZ9

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed Python 3.0 schedule

2008-10-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:48 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: [Barry Warsaw] So, we need to come up with a new release schedule for Python 3.0. My suggestion: 15-Oct-2008 3.0 beta 4 05-Nov-2008 3.0 rc 2 19-Nov-2008 3.0 rc 3 03-Dec-2008 3.0 final Given

Re: [Python-Dev] porting pycxx and pysvn to python 3.0 hit a problem

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Scott
On Oct 5, 2008, at 22:49, Terry Reedy wrote: Barry Scott wrote: for key in [pysvn.wc_status_kind.added, pysvn.wc_status_kind.replaced, pysvn.wc_status_kind.unversioned]: print( '2 key', key, key in wc_status_kind_map, cmp( key, pysvn.wc_status_kind.u

Re: [Python-Dev] porting pycxx and pysvn to python 3.0 hit a problem

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Scott
thing I can think of. (Hence Martin's question, I presume). I have no idea, however, how porting could make that happen. I see no reply from Martin. What was his question? Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] porting pycxx and pysvn to python 3.0 hit a problem

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Scott
p() eq but have different PyObect * values. This is a change from V2 python where to be a key implementing tp_hash and tp_compare is sufficient. In V3 is it your intention that to be a key you must implement tp_hash and tp_richcompare? If not I'll raise a bug against 3.0 on thi

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed Python 3.0 schedule

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, we need to come up with a new release schedule for Python 3.0. My suggestion: 15-Oct-2008 3.0 beta 4 05-No

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed Python 3.0 schedule

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:48 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: [Barry Warsaw] So, we need to come up with a new release schedule for Python 3.0. My suggestion: 15-Oct-2008 3.0 beta 4 05

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed Python 3.0 schedule

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
3 and rc4 are planned "if needed". - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSOvfg3EjvBPtnXfVAQKDfwP/Sz9Ioe1tIrKtvD7JPG2cg2F+wfDJrc+9 vqfh6/eMWiUIOeSKJu6+gye7oXRcHwQXAPivNza3993HesOu0TjudnwXfkAlfsdE m09Rh70AXQQiY7JX46etugRC4BwkuNeBo253cvmfo6hPK0ZhO

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Proposed Python 3.0 schedule

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 7, 2008, at 6:01 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I won't be able to cut another release between the 15th and 5th, so at least that one should be 2 weeks. If we don't need the additional rc, then we can release early, which would p

Re: [Python-Dev] porting pycxx and pysvn to python 3.0 hit a problem

2008-10-07 Thread Barry Scott
ichcompare. I've added support already in PyCXX. I'll now implement tp_richcompare for pysvn and document this in my PyCXX porting guide. Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-de

Re: [Python-Dev] Has python-dev collapsed?

2008-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
and I'm hopeful we can still meet that date. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIL0wACgkQ2YZpQepbvXHxOQCdFUA4Q3frOjG2GX1ME0hc6uoZ niwAn3deTj4E9KO+K4dMHWlKhKbjbaga =0Py5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- __

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

2008-10-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
nterrested by my patches. Sometimes I just get a good reaction >like "nice patch" and then nothing. Should I stop sending new patches and >work on another project, improve old patches and send an email everydays to >the mailing list to get some reaction? > >Barry doesn't wa

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

2008-10-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
an open source project. I contributed to >many many projects, and I can say that Python is already one of the most >reactive project! But it can be better ;-) I agree! How can we improve our development process, given that we're an all volunteer organization? - -Barry -BEG

Re: [Python-Dev] hg branch gone?

2008-10-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
think I just f'd up the Apache conf. I'll try to fix that. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkKyLYACgkQ2YZpQepbvXG2pQCgh61b5hA7ECT5mNO+vbmJICYR tRoAoJEa3XGzM06qNepsnhHldzLPF4kG =8JK8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- __

Re: [Python-Dev] hg branch gone?

2008-10-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 31, 2008, at 08:58 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >Naw, I think I just f'd up the Apache conf. I'll try to fix that. And by "I'll" of course I meant "Martin". :) Thanks Martin! - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: [Python-Dev] hg branch gone?

2008-10-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
thon.org/snapshots/python-bzr-snapshot.tar.bz2, which is > > a 404. Anyone know the actual URL? Looks like this is fixed now too. Aside: Now that Python 2.6 isn't on the trunk, we need to add a bzr mirror for python26-maint. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATU

Re: [Python-Dev] My patches

2008-11-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
he actual URL? This is fixed now. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSQ2eDnEjvBPtnXfVAQJf+gP7BvsB7NtENGqbQR7oGMGjie75MrEn362Y hXcgALWn9UkaiSdcrL+b9DFLY8MYppYUvKEJw92gU9jMzIzgcdH57DGBkudx/PHS hkvPhtGewdSX1QY88CkOYjJ7UYnhrhZWUzN67Yea16QKBwPKQFljsC26toqX+0

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