[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 21:14:22 -0500 Tim Peters wrote: > Various variations on: > > > ... I am also considering unsubscribing if someone doesn't step in and stop > > the mess going on between Brett and Marco. ... > > Overall, "me too!" pile-ons _are_ "the [bulk of the] mess" to most > list subsc

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

On 19/08/21 7:23 pm, Antoine Pitrou wrote: The whole thing is ridiculous enough to read like a Monty Python skit by now, but the trout-slapping ending is still missing. Just have the police come in and arrest everyone, that usually works. -- Greg ___

[Python-Dev] Re: Deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10?

> On 18 Aug 2021, at 11:47, Irit Katriel wrote: > > It remains the decide how to backport the compiler warning to older versions, > and to which versions. 3.8 is when the macros broke. Since they cause segfaults, I'd say that's a pretty good reason to backport the warnings. While 3.8 in secur

[Python-Dev] Re: Deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10?

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:28 AM Duncan Grisby > Thanks. Victor Stinner has now commented on the defect I raised to say > that it is actually a bug in the traceback module, in that it should not be > using Py_DECREF at all inside a signal handler. The fact that it leads to > use of the old trashca

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:36:00PM -0400, Jonathan Goble wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:22 PM Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/18/2021 9:37 PM, Edwin Zimmerman wrote: > On 8/18/21 9:18 PM, Jonathan Goble wrote: >> I am mostly a lurker, but I am also considering unsubscribing if someone doesn't step

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

Excuse me all for the useless back-and-forth... I can assure you I'm the last person who wanted it. But if someone insults me, I reply. Anyway, this will not last long. Goodbye and thanks for all the fish. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.

[Python-Dev] Re: Deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10?

On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 11:41 +0100, Irit Katriel wrote: > Well, in order to verify that we fixed the problem you reported we > need to be able to test the fix and see that the problem is gone.  > Right now we have two theories of what the cause could be, because > there are two known bugs in that ar

[Python-Dev] Re: Deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10?

On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 12:14 +0100, Irit Katriel wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:05 PM Duncan Grisby > wrote: > > I don't know if it is pertinent to this at all, but I > > raised https://bugs.python.org/issue9 in which the faulthandler > > module can lead to a segfault inside Py_TRASHCAN

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

[me] > If you want more active moderation, volunteer for the job. I'd happily > give it up, and acknowledge that my laissez-faire moderation approach > is out of style. But, please, don't tell _me_ off-list that you volunteer. I want no say in who would become a new moderator - I'm already doing t

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

As I said before, I am using Ignore Thread to ignore these threads. Please stop evading my wishes by sending me private discourtesy copies. At least 3 people have done that when *not* responding to anything I wrote. -- Terry Jan Reedy ___ Python-De

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

I agree with you, and I would say that all this chaos will be avoided, if people leave the discussion between me and Steven alone. You can't say "I'm sick of spamming" if you put logs on the fire. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To un

[Python-Dev] Re: Deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10?

On 26.04.21 23:55, Irit Katriel via Python-Dev wrote: > > Re https://bugs.python.org/issue40608 . > > I think it will be an act of kindness to > deprecate Py_TRASHCAN_SAFE_BEGIN/END in 3.10 and tell people to > use Py_TRASHCAN_BEGIN/END instead. > > TL;DR: The

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

I think you're writing to me. I simply clicked the "Reply to all" button because I'm lazy. And that's me that is polemic? X-D Furthermore you already replied to this topic before my intervention, so this makes me laugh doubly X-D Who's the spammer? Let the people decide On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 20:3

[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance

Anyway, Cannon, don't take it personal. I accuse the entire system, the whole CoC council. Indeed I was also fired some times ago from the python-ideas list: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-id...@python.org/message/KV4K4KS4MYTP5T5W5XKZYENGHCJYWOFR/ The reasons? https://mail.python.o

[Python-Dev] Re: Problems with dict subclassing performance

Can someone please ban Marco? Temp ban would work fine. Thanks Barney On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 21:24, Marco Sulla wrote: > Anyway, Cannon, don't take it personal. I accuse the entire system, > the whole CoC council. > > Indeed I was also fired some times ago from the python-ideas list: > > https

[Python-Dev] Re: Dropping out of this list

On 8/19/2021 2:47 PM, Marco Sulla wrote: I think you're writing to me. I was writing to 3 people including you and everyone in general requesting that people be more careful when responding. I simply clicked the "Reply to all" Don't do that. Just followup to the list. button because I'