Re: [Python-Dev] --with-fpectl changes the CPython ABI

2017-01-02 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 25 December 2016 at 09:48, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> Or maybe make it so that even no-fpectl builds still export the >> necessary symbols so that yes-fpectl extensions don't crash on import? >> (This has the advantage that it can be don

Re: [Python-Dev] --with-fpectl changes the CPython ABI

2017-01-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 2 January 2017 at 18:27, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > So I guess that yeah, my suggestion would be to drop this feature > entirely in 3.7, given that it's never been enabled by default and has > been largely broken for years. Or do we still need a full deprecation > cycle? > I think the existing

Re: [Python-Dev] --with-fpectl changes the CPython ABI

2017-01-02 Thread Guido van Rossum
I am happy to see it go. It was contributed many, many years ago by people (scientists from the early numpy world IIRC) who had a very specific use for it, but weren't really into maintaining it long-term, and I wasn't strong enough to refuse a well-meaning but poorly executed contribution at the t

Re: [Python-Dev] --with-fpectl changes the CPython ABI

2017-01-02 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Great, sounds like we have a plan: https://bugs.python.org/issue29137 On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I am happy to see it go. It was contributed many, many years ago by people > (scientists from the early numpy world IIRC) who had a very specific use for > it, but weren

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.6rc1 and Python 3.5.3rc1 are now available

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Hastings
On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.4 and Python 3.5 release teams, I'm pleased to announce the availability of Python 3.4.6rc1 and Python 3.5.6rc1. Python 3.4 is now in "security fixes only" mode. This is the final stage of support for Python 3.4. Python 3.4 now