On 14 September 2016 at 11:32, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
> On 13.09.16 02:35, Ned Deily wrote:
>>
>> On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release
>> team, I'm happy to announce the availability of Python 3.6.0b1. 3.6.0b1
>> is the first of four planned beta releases of Py
On Sep 9, 2016 1:35 AM, "Benjamin Peterson" wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, at 22:33, Tim Delaney wrote:
> > Are sets also ordered by default now? None of the PEPs appear to mention
> > it.
>
> No.
Is there anyone working to move sets in the same direction for 3.6?
_
On 14 September 2016 at 13:18, Franklin? Lee
wrote:
> On Sep 9, 2016 1:35 AM, "Benjamin Peterson" wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, at 22:33, Tim Delaney wrote:
>> > Are sets also ordered by default now? None of the PEPs appear to mention
>> > it.
>>
>> No.
>
> Is there anyone working to move sets i
On Sep 14, 2016 8:29 AM, "Paul Moore" wrote:
>
> On 14 September 2016 at 13:18, Franklin? Lee
> wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 2016 1:35 AM, "Benjamin Peterson" wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, at 22:33, Tim Delaney wrote:
> >> > Are sets also ordered by default now? None of the PEPs appear to
mention
> >
>
> I mean using a compact representation, if not an ordered one.
>
> I have no particular usecase in mind. As far as I understand the compact
> implementation, sets can do it just as well. The original discussion
> proposed trying to implement it for sets first.
>
> Like dict, they would (probably
Fortunately that page isn't linked from anywhere on the home page
AFAIK. If it is, could someone file an issue in the pydotorg tracker?
The url is at the bottom of every page.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:41 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 14 September 2016 at 11:32, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
>> On 13.09.
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On 9/14/2016 9:33 AM, INADA Naoki wrote:
I mean using a compact representation, if not an ordered one.
I have no particular usecase in mind. As far as I understand the compact
implementation, sets can do it just as well. The original discussion
proposed trying to implement it for sets first.
L
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:33 AM, INADA Naoki wrote:
> I'll improve OrderedDict after dict in 3.6 is stable enough.
+1 and if it's done carefully we could even utilize the pure Python
OrderedDict and get rid of odictobject.c (and fold dict-common.h back
into dictobject.c). We'd need to leave the
On 15 September 2016 at 05:02, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> We already have compact mutable collection types that can be kept
> insert-ordered if one chooses -- lists and collections.deque -- and they
> are not limited to hashables. Before sets were added, either lists or
> dicts with None values were
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Eric Snow wrote:
>
>>
>> Then, I'll do same to sets.
>
> Unless I've misunderstood, Raymond was opposed to making a similar
> change to set.
That's right. Here are a few thoughts on the subject before people starting
running wild.
* For the compact dict, the
On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:36, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Fortunately that page isn't linked from anywhere on the home page
> AFAIK. If it is, could someone file an issue in the pydotorg tracker?
> The url is at the bottom of every page.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:41 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On 14
On 08.09.16 23:22, Victor Stinner wrote:
I pushed INADA Naoki's implementation of the "compact dict". The hash
table now stores indices pointing to a new second table which contains
keys and values: it adds one new level of indirection. The table of
indices is "compact": use 1, 2, 4 or 8 bytes pe
On 14.09.16 17:36, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Fortunately that page isn't linked from anywhere on the home page
AFAIK. If it is, could someone file an issue in the pydotorg tracker?
The url is at the bottom of every page.
This is on of the first results (actually the first besides manually
edited
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
> On 14.09.16 17:36, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>
>> Fortunately that page isn't linked from anywhere on the home page
>> AFAIK. If it is, could someone file an issue in the pydotorg tracker?
>> The url is at the bottom of every page.
>
>
> Th
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