Re: [Python-Dev] test_uuid.py on HP NonStop Python-2.7.5 fails (test case: testIssue8621)

2013-11-28 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:14 AM, V S, Nagendra (Nonstop Filesystems Team) > on NonStop "uuid.py" falls throw to random.range() call to generate the > random number And indeed, the random module gets identical results in both parent and child after a fork(). This seems to mean that the rand

Re: [Python-Dev] test_uuid.py on HP NonStop Python-2.7.5 fails (test case: testIssue8621)

2013-11-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 28.11.2013 10:53, schrieb Armin Rigo: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:14 AM, V S, Nagendra (Nonstop Filesystems Team) >> on NonStop "uuid.py" falls throw to random.range() call to generate the >> random number > > And indeed, the random module gets identical results in both parent > and

Re: [Python-Dev] test_uuid.py on HP NonStop Python-2.7.5 fails (test case: testIssue8621)

2013-11-28 Thread V S, Nagendra (Nonstop Filesystems Team)
> > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:14 AM, V S, Nagendra (Nonstop Filesystems > > Team) > >> on NonStop "uuid.py" falls throw to random.range() call to generate > >> the random number > > > > And indeed, the random module gets identical results in both parent > > and child after a fork(). T

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot's are needlessly compiling -O0

2013-11-28 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 24.11.2013 08:13, schrieb Gregory P. Smith: > our buildbots are setup to configure --with-pydebug which also > unfortunately causes them to compile with -O0... this results in a python > binary that is excruciatingly slow and makes the entire test suite run take > a long time. > > given that no

[Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and ill fated initiatives

2013-11-28 Thread anatoly techtonik
I wanted to help people who are trying to find out more about PEP submission process by providing relevant info (or a pointer) in README.rst that is located at the root of PEPs repository. You can see it here. https://bitbucket.org/rirror/peps I filled this issue with b.p.o http://bugs.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and ill fated initiatives

2013-11-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
Anatoly, the Python community is a lot more diverse than you think. "Pull requests" (whatever that means) are not the way to start a PEP. You should start by focusing on the contents, and the mechanics of editing it and getting it formatted properly are secondary. The process is explained in PEP on

[Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Tim Delaney
I was just getting Jython working with py.exe, and I think the documentation can be made a bit more friendly. In particular think we can make it easier for people to determine the correct folder by changing the line in 3.4.4.1 Customization via INI files: Two .ini files will be searched by the lau

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Glenn Linderman
On 11/28/2013 1:04 PM, Tim Delaney wrote: %LOCALAPPDATA% should always contain the same value as would be returned from SHGetFolderPath with CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA. Except when it gets changed. Documentation should reflect the actual use in the code. If it uses the SHGetFolderPath, that is what s

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Tim Delaney
On 29 November 2013 08:34, Glenn Linderman wrote: > On 11/28/2013 1:04 PM, Tim Delaney wrote: > > > %LOCALAPPDATA% should always contain the same value as would be returned > from SHGetFolderPath with CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA. > > Except when it gets changed. Documentation should reflect the actual u

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/28/2013 4:04 PM, Tim Delaney wrote: I was just getting Jython working with py.exe, and I think the documentation can be made a bit more friendly. In particular think we can make it easier for people to determine the correct folder by changing the line in 3.4.4.1 Customization via INI files:

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread martin
Quoting Terry Reedy : 'Two .ini files will be searched by the launcher' sort of implies to me that the files exist. On my Win7 machine, echo %LOCALAPPDATA% returns C:\Users\Terry\AppData\Local. If I go to Users/Terry with Explorer, there is no AppData. (Same with admin user.) Are you sur

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/28/2013 5:35 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Quoting Terry Reedy : 'Two .ini files will be searched by the launcher' sort of implies to me that the files exist. On my Win7 machine, echo %LOCALAPPDATA% returns C:\Users\Terry\AppData\Local. If I go to Users/Terry with Explorer, there is no A

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Tim Delaney
On 29 November 2013 10:59, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 11/28/2013 5:35 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > >> >> Quoting Terry Reedy : >> >> 'Two .ini files will be searched by the launcher' sort of implies to >>> me that the files exist. On my Win7 machine, echo %LOCALAPPDATA% >>> returns C:\Users\Terr

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/28/2013 7:06 PM, Tim Delaney wrote: By default in Win7 AppData is a hidden folder - you need to go to Tools On my system, that is Control Panel, not Tools. | Folder Options | View | Show hidden files, folders and drives to see it in Explorer (no matter what user you're logged in as).

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Tim Delaney
On 29 November 2013 13:17, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 11/28/2013 7:06 PM, Tim Delaney wrote: > > By default in Win7 AppData is a hidden folder - you need to go to Tools >> > > On my system, that is Control Panel, not Tools. Sorry - was referring to the Explorer "Tools" menu, which is likewise hi

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 29 November 2013 12:27, Tim Delaney wrote: > On 29 November 2013 13:17, Terry Reedy wrote: >> >> On 11/28/2013 7:06 PM, Tim Delaney wrote: >> >>> By default in Win7 AppData is a hidden folder - you need to go to Tools >> >> >> On my system, that is Control Panel, not Tools. > > > Sorry - was

Re: [Python-Dev] py.ini documentation improvement

2013-11-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes: > Turning my Windows gaming machine back to the default settings and > trying to bootstrap pip was one of the key things that got me > motivated to work on PEP 453. It still astounds me that one company > can both create Visual Studio, *and* make it difficult to configure