[Python-Dev] PEP 442 clarification for type hierarchies

2013-08-04 Thread Stefan Behnel
Hi, I'm currently catching up on PEP 442, which managed to fly completely below my radar so far. It's a really helpful change that could end up fixing a major usability problem that Cython was suffering from: user provided deallocation code now has a safe execution environment (well, at least in P

Re: [Python-Dev] Allowing to run certain regression tests in subprocesses

2013-08-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:04:21 -0700, Eli Bendersky wrote: > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > > On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:47:37 -0700, Eli Bendersky wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Eli Bendersky wrote: > >> > Hi All, > >> > > >> > Today the issue of cross-test glo

Re: [Python-Dev] Allowing to run certain regression tests in subprocesses

2013-08-04 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 5:44 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:04:21 -0700, Eli Bendersky wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM, R. David Murray >> wrote: >> > On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:47:37 -0700, Eli Bendersky wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Eli Bendersky wrot

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 442 clarification for type hierarchies

2013-08-04 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 04.08.2013 09:23: > I'm currently catching up on PEP 442, which managed to fly completely below > my radar so far. It's a really helpful change that could end up fixing a > major usability problem that Cython was suffering from: user provided > deallocation code now has a safe execut

Re: [Python-Dev] Allowing to run certain regression tests in subprocesses

2013-08-04 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 4 Aug 2013 12:03, "Eli Bendersky" wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> > >> > On 4 Aug 2013 09:43, "Eli Bendersky" wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Today the issue of cross-test global env dependenci

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0a1

2013-08-04 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > On 08/03/2013 11:22 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > > * PEP 435, a standardized "enum" module > * PEP 442, improved semantics for object finalization > * PEP 443, adding single-dispatch generic functions to the standard library > * PEP 445, a ne

Re: [Python-Dev] Allowing to run certain regression tests in subprocesses

2013-08-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 August 2013 23:40, Eli Bendersky wrote: > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> Sure, it's just unusual to have a case where "importing is blocked by adding >> None to sys.modules" differs from "not actually available", so I'd like to >> understand the situation better. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 442 clarification for type hierarchies

2013-08-04 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 04.08.2013 15:24: > Stefan Behnel, 04.08.2013 09:23: >> I'm currently catching up on PEP 442, which managed to fly completely below >> my radar so far. It's a really helpful change that could end up fixing a >> major usability problem that Cython was suffering from: user provided >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0a1

2013-08-04 Thread Larry Hastings
On 08/04/2013 07:01 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote: Larry, if there are other things you're going to add, update the web page http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.4.0/ as well - it's the one being linked in the inter-webs now. Good thinking! I'll do that today. //arry/

Re: [Python-Dev] Allowing to run certain regression tests in subprocesses

2013-08-04 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 4 August 2013 23:40, Eli Bendersky wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> Sure, it's just unusual to have a case where "importing is blocked by adding >>> None to sys.modules" differs from "not actually available