[Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. I believe you need to add MULE to it.) Is there some reason such messages can't

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:06:49 -0500 s...@pobox.com wrote: > It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it > challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I > use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. > I believe you ne

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 05:21:08PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:06:49 -0500 > s...@pobox.com wrote: > > It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it > > challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I > > use VM within XEmacs

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
Antoine> Hmm, are you sure? Software (especially mail-reading software) Antoine> that doesn't support utf-8 in 2011 should be considered Antoine> extremely broken. I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me. I was just asking if it would

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Eugene Toder
> I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail > reader limits me.  I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly > easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Isn't utf-8 itself same as ascii where no non-ascii symbols are used? Eugene ___

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Georg Brandl
On 27.03.2011 18:33, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 05:21:08PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:06:49 -0500 >> s...@pobox.com wrote: >> > It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it >> > challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-b

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:33:04 +0100, Jon Ribbens wrote: > In my experience it is very difficult to get a whole system > configured, such that UTF-8 works reliably. In my case that would > mean, I think, Linux, glibc, mutt, screen, elinks, and SecureCRT would > all have to simultaneously be configure

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 27.03.2011 17:06, schrieb s...@pobox.com: > It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it > challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I > use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. > I believe you need to add MU

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 02:13:29PM -0400, Eugene Toder wrote: > > I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail > > reader limits me.  I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly > > easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. > > Isn't utf-8 itself sa

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 02:21:25PM -0400, R. David Murray wrote: > > Mind you, I've never managed to get the <-- button working reliably > > either, but to be fair that's insanely complicated too. > > No idea what that is. "Backspace" key. ___ Python-De

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
>> I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of >> mail reader limits me.  I was just asking if it would be possible >> (read: fairly easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Eugene> Isn't utf-8 itself same as ascii where no non-ascii symbols are

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
Martin> Am 27.03.2011 17:06, schrieb s...@pobox.com: >> It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it >> challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail >> reader. (I use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support >> utf-8 out of the

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/27/2011 2:13 PM, Eugene Toder wrote: I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me. I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Isn't utf-8 itself same as ascii where no non-ascii sy

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:46:35 +0100, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 02:21:25PM -0400, R. David Murray wrote: > > > Mind you, I've never managed to get the <-- button working reliably > > > either, but to be fair that's insanely complicated too. > > > > No idea what that is. > > "Ba

[Python-Dev] Python 2.7 on Irix 6.5.22 fails ctypes callback test

2011-03-27 Thread David E. Cross
Trying to compile and install Python 2.7 on irix 6.5.22 IP22 (N32 ABI model), Using gcc-4.5.1 and binutils 2.20.1. Everything goes well (I applied th patches listed at: http://bugs.python.org/file15915/python-2.7-irix.patch ) It compiles and the test mostly work except for the callback ctypes

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-27 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Guido van Rossum wrote: > What is "rebase"? Why does everyone want it and hate it at the same time? It's the same thing that happens when you do a "svn up" with local changes in your checkout. Logically, your patch gets modified so that it applies on a different (newer) version of the code. If

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-27 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Barry Warsaw wrote: > I'm asking because I don't know hg and git well enough to answer the > question. In my own use of Bazaar over the last 4+ years, I've almost never > rebased or even been asked to. Maybe it depends on what kind of changes you commit. I consider future maintainers the most i

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add optional *func* argument to itertools.accumulate().

2011-03-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:52 PM, raymond.hettinger < python-check...@python.org> wrote: > -.. function:: accumulate(iterable) +.. function:: accumulate(iterable[, func]) > > Make an iterator that returns accumulated sums. Elements may be any > addable > -type including :class:`Decimal`

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add optional *func* argument to itertools.accumulate().

2011-03-27 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Daniel Stutzbach wrote: > Is there a good use-case for the func argument?  I can only think of bad > use-cases (where "func" does something that does not remotely resemble > addition).  I fear that people will actually implement these bad use-cases, > and I will ha

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-27 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Schemenauer writes: > Regarding collapsing multiple comments (and rewriting history in > general), I feel there are two main schools of thought. One school > considers the development history of a change important and that it > should be preserved: every step and misstep of development shoul