[Python-Dev] [format] Restrict fill characters for numerical values

2009-11-11 Thread Stefan Krah
Hi, I think http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3101/ is too liberal with the choice of fill characters for numerical values. As far as I can see, this is quite legal: Python 2.7a0 (trunk:76132M, Nov 6 2009, 15:20:35) [GCC 4.1.3 20080623 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-23ubuntu3)] on linux2 Type "he

Re: [Python-Dev] [format] Restrict fill characters for numerical values

2009-11-11 Thread Eric Smith
Stefan Krah wrote: Hi, I think http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3101/ is too liberal with the choice of fill characters for numerical values. As far as I can see, this is quite legal: Python 2.7a0 (trunk:76132M, Nov 6 2009, 15:20:35) [GCC 4.1.3 20080623 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-23ubuntu3

Re: [Python-Dev] [format] Restrict fill characters for numerical values

2009-11-11 Thread Stefan Krah
Eric Smith wrote: > Stefan Krah wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I think http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3101/ is too liberal with the > >choice of fill characters for numerical values. As far as I can see, this > >is quite legal: > > > > > >Python 2.7a0 (trunk:76132M, Nov 6 2009, 15:20:35) > >[GCC 4.1.3

[Python-Dev] PEP 382 status

2009-11-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Hi, I was wondering what's the status of PEP 382. Is anyone (MvL?) is going to start to work on its implementation for Python 2.7/3.2 inclusion ? Regards Tarek ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] [format] Restrict fill characters for numerical values

2009-11-11 Thread Stefan Krah
Stefan Krah wrote: > I simply think that apart from rounding, the output of format should not > change the numerical value of its argument. The format functions in C do > not allow this to happen. Are there other languages where this is possible? Actually there are other cases: strfmon() allows t

Re: [Python-Dev] Replacing IDLE

2009-11-11 Thread David Robinow
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: > Seems to me the only kind of IDE that it makes sense to > ship with Python is one that is written in Python and > maintained by the core developers. Anything else is best > left as a third party package for download by those > who want to use i

Re: [Python-Dev] [format] Restrict fill characters for numerical values

2009-11-11 Thread Eric Smith
Stefan Krah wrote: Eric Smith wrote: Stefan Krah wrote: Hi, I think http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3101/ is too liberal with the choice of fill characters for numerical values. As far as I can see, this is quite legal: Python 2.7a0 (trunk:76132M, Nov 6 2009, 15:20:35) [GCC 4.1.3 20080

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 382 status

2009-11-11 Thread Eric Smith
Tarek Ziadé wrote: I was wondering what's the status of PEP 382. Is anyone (MvL?) is going to start to work on its implementation for Python 2.7/3.2 inclusion ? If Martin isn't interested in doing it, I'll take a try at it. But I'll need some rough guidance on the implementation approach. Er

[Python-Dev] Is this a bug of the HTMLParser?

2009-11-11 Thread Zhang Chiyuan
Hi all, I'm using BeautifulSoup to parsing an HTML page and find it refused to parse the page. By looking at the backtrace, I found it is a problem with the python built-in HTMLParser.py. In fact, the web page I'm parsing is with some Chinese characters. there is a tag like , note this is legacy

Re: [Python-Dev] Is this a bug of the HTMLParser?

2009-11-11 Thread Michael Foord
Hello Zhang Chiyuan, Can you file a bug on the Python issue tracker please: http://bugs.python.org Thanks Michael Foord Zhang Chiyuan wrote: Hi all, I'm using BeautifulSoup to parsing an HTML page and find it refused to parse the page. By looking at the backtrace, I found it is a problem

Re: [Python-Dev] IDLE as default Python editor

2009-11-11 Thread Echo
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > > Quite simple: because we can't possibly ship Emacs. > > cheers, > Georg > We just need a PyEmacs. Written in python, extensible in elist and python. Nice and simple ;-D -- -Brandon Singer ___ P

Re: [Python-Dev] IDLE as default Python editor

2009-11-11 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Echo wrote: > We just need a PyEmacs. Written in python, extensible in elist and > python. Nice and simple ;-D I'd even give up the elisp support if I could have Python in my Emacs. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is w

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 382 status

2009-11-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I was wondering what's the status of PEP 382. Is anyone (MvL?) is > going to start to work on its implementation for Python 2.7/3.2 > inclusion ? I'll be working on an implementation, but contributions are welcome. Unfortunately, I'm really short on free software time recently (and keep hoping t

Re: [Python-Dev] IDLE as default Python editor

2009-11-11 Thread David Robinow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Fred Drake wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Echo wrote: >> We just need a PyEmacs. Written in python, extensible in elist and >> python. Nice and simple ;-D > I'd even give up the elisp support if I could have Python in my Emacs. Have you tried Pymacs? _

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > [MvL] >>> I personally think that decoupling the releases would be best, i.e. >>> not start thinking about 3.2 for another 6 months. > > [Benjamin] >> The problem with that is that there is a period of time where 2.x has >> features which 3.x doesn't. My preference is

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I think I've decided I don't mind either way, so I'm fine with whichever > approach is easier for Benjamin and the platform installer builders to > manage. +1 -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) ___