On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Curt Hagenlocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> One other reason not to mess with the PATH -- at least by default --
> is that the user may have multiple copies of Python installed. I know
> I have at least one machine with 2.4.5, 2.5.2, 2.6b2 and 3.0b2
> installed
On 03 sep 2008 at 00:50:13, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There already is a menu entry that starts the Python interpreter
> on Windows, so why not use that ?
Because i need to start Python from folders which have
files that define a specific "environment".
I have several servers an
Greg Ewing wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Why not expose the class directly, instead of making it private and
>> then exposing it via a factory function that does nothing else?
>
> This option would also have the advantage of not
> changing the API (unless there's code out there that
> actuall
On 2008-09-03 04:12, Greg Ewing wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>
>> The problem is: how to undo those changes without accidentally
>> undoing an explicit change made by the user ?
>
> Is that really much of an issue? If the PATH contains an
> entry corresponding to the Python installation that's
>
On 2008-09-03 10:15, Cesare Di Mauro wrote:
> On 03 sep 2008 at 00:50:13, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> There already is a menu entry that starts the Python interpreter
>> on Windows, so why not use that ?
>
> Because i need to start Python from folders which have
> files that def
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
On 2008-09-03 04:12, Greg Ewing wrote:
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
The problem is: how to undo those changes without accidentally
undoing an explicit change made by the user ?
Is that really much of an issue? If the PATH contains an
entry corresponding to the Python installation
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Greg Ewing wrote:
> The Unix read() system call doesn't treat EOF as special other than it
> won't return bytes from "beyond" EOF and therefore even when reading a
> regular file could return fewer (including 0) bytes than asked for in
> the call.
No, that's not right -- a
> > Perhaps we could have an option to place a "python.bat"
> > into C:\Windows\ or C:\Windows\System\.
>
> Except you still have the "last in wins" issue, and you have to make a
> decision on whether or not to delete the file.
If this is done the batch file should be named "python25.bat" or s
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Perhaps we could have an option to place a "python.bat"
>> > into C:\Windows\ or C:\Windows\System\.
>>
> If this is done the batch file should be named "python25.bat" or so
> depending on the version.
>
Instead of havi
On 03/09/2008, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Perhaps we could have an option to place a "python.bat"
> > > into C:\Windows\ or C:\Windows\System\.
> >
> > Except you still have the "last in wins" issue, and you have to make a
> > decision on whether or not to delete the file.
>
>
Paul Moore wrote:
On 03/09/2008, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps we could have an option to place a "python.bat"
> into C:\Windows\ or C:\Windows\System\.
Except you still have the "last in wins" issue, and you have to make a
decision on whether or not to delete the file.
Paul Moore schrieb:
> Bat files don't work when called from another bat file. This hits me
> regularly, when people supply wrapper bat files. Example:
>
> myscript.bat:
> @echo off
> do some stuff
> python my_py_script.py
> do some more stuff
>
> If "python" is a bat file, "do some more stuff" wi
On 03/09/2008, Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can use "CALL" within one batch file to chain
> another, returning afterwards to the first.
Correct. Sorry, I forgot to mention that.
> But this is obviously not the most transparent thing
> on earth!
Indeed - and it certainly isn't a "w
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> PS If anyone knows a *good* way of writing wrapper scripts on Windows
> which doesn't suffer from the bat file nesting problem above, please
> let me (and the rest of the world!) know!
You can use setuptools console scri
On 03 Sep 2008 at 13:34:18, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same here, but I usually have a env.bat that sets up whatever
> environment I need (including the required Python version) and
> run that when opening a prompt to work on a particular project.
> IMHO, the only point of having
Mark Hammond skippinet.com.au> writes:
>
> I mean that many Windows use the PATH, and as such, may fail if a new
> directory is added to the PATH that contains a DLL they indirectly use.
Then it's just a matter of not putting any DLLs in those directories, isn't it?
> If I *did* expect other pr
>From this page:
http://docs.python.org/dev/index.html
I searched for "csv" and got just one hit:
http://docs.python.org/dev/contents.html?highlight=csv
Shouldn't it have at least matched the docs for the csv module itself, not
just the table of contents?
Thx,
Skip
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techtonik gmail.com> writes:
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As a workaround, if you only need read-only
2008/9/2 Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> Why not expose the class directly, instead of making it private and then
exposing it via a factory function that does nothing else?
>
> This option would also have the advantage of not
> changing the API (unless there's code ou
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> As a workaround, if you only need read-only access, you can use the Mercurial
> mirrors which should work through your proxy (AFAIK Mercurial only uses GET
> and
> POST).
>
> Type "hg clone http://code.python.org/hg/trun
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:39 PM, techtonik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> As a workaround, if you only need read-only access, you can use the Mercurial
>> mirrors which should work through your proxy (AFAIK Mercurial only
techtonik gmail.com> writes:
>
> I do not need the whole branch - only a small subset of files related
> to distutils. I know that bazaar can't do partial checkouts - it can
> only fetch the whole branch. What about mercurial?
Mercurial can't do it either. But I don't think it matters a lot; unl
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:39 PM, techtonik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a workaround, if you only need read-only access, you can use the
>>
I think this should be deferred to Py3.1.
This decision was not widely discussed and
I think it likely that some users will
be surprised and dismayed. The release
candidate seems to be the wrong time to
yank this out (in part because of the surprise
factor) and in part because I think the chan
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this should be deferred to Py3.1.
> This decision was not widely discussed and I think it likely that some users
> will
> be surprised and dismayed.
Perhaps, but that could be said about almost any module that h
Eric Smith wrote:
But I agree that
managing a single batch file is easier than dealing with the PATH
variable, and has fewer side effects (finding DLL's, etc.).
This would only be possible for an administrator
installation, though, not a per-user one.
--
Greg
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
However, always having the latest version on PATH is not
an option either, since e.g. I wouldn't want all .py scripts
to be run by Python 3.0 just because I installed it for
testing purposes.
Keep in mind that the normal installation process on
unix *does* make "python" re
Tim Golden wrote:
You can use "CALL" within one batch file to chain
another, returning afterwards to the first.
You need to know that what you're calling is a bat
file to have the foresight to do that, though. I
can imagine people not expecting "python" to be
a bat file.
Instead of a bat file
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Jesus Cea wrote:
Barry Warsaw wrote:
and I know Brett agrees, so that's it. On IRC, I've just asked
Benjamin
to do the honors for 3.0 and Brett will add the deprecations for 2.6.
I just committed the fix for bsddb t
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 04:41:32PM -0700, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
-> I think this should be deferred to Py3.1.
->
-> This decision was not widely discussed and
-> I think it likely that some users will
-> be surprised and dismayed. The release
-> candidate seems to be the wrong time to
-> yank
I was reading through the Dictionary views section:
http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/library/stdtypes.html#dictionary-view-objects
Unless I am mistaken; the intersection at the end of the example usage
should be:
>>> keys & {'eggs', 'bacon', 'salad'}
{'bacon'}
Cheers,
~ro
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I'm not going to release rc1 tonight. There are too many open release
blockers that I don't want to defer, and I'd like the buildbots to
churn through the bsddb removal on all platforms. Let me first thank
Benjamin, Brett, Mark and Antoine for
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM, C. Titus Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 04:41:32PM -0700, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
> -> I think this should be deferred to Py3.1.
> ->
> -> This decision was not widely discussed and
> -> I think it likely that some users will
> -> be surp
[Barry]
I'm not going to release rc1 tonight.
Can I go ahead with some bug fixes and doc improvements
or should I wait until after Friday?
Raymond
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thanks. in general report all issues even ones like this on
bugs.python.org rather than on a mailing list where they can get lost.
i've fixed this trivial one in py3k svn r66207.
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Reed O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was reading through the Dictionary views
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The release
> candidate seems to be the wrong time to
> yank this out (in part because of the surprise
> factor) and in part because I think the change
> silently affects shelve performance so that the
> impact may be si
Would anyone mind if I did add a public C API for gc.disable() and
gc.enable()? I would like to use it as an optimization for the pickle
module (I found out that I get a good 2x speedup just by disabling the
GC while loading large pickles). Of course, I could simply import the
gc module and call
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