[Python-Dev] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wow, I bet this one crept up on you as quickly as it did me! We have our second planned beta releases for 2.6 and 3.0 tomorrow. As usual I will start looking at blockers and buildbots tomorrow afternoon (UTC-4 time) with a plan to start building

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
I think we should put this one off. The previous betas were done on June 18, and IMO the next beta should be about a month afterwards, not 2 weeks. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wow, I bet this one cre

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Jesse Noller
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barry Warsaw schrieb: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Wow, I bet this one crept up on you as quickly as it did me! >> >> We have our second planned beta releases for 2.6 and 3.0 tomorrow. As >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: I think we should put this one off. The previous betas were done on June 18, and IMO the next beta should be about a month afterwards, not 2 weeks. I will not be able to make releases the week

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are two options. I could shift everything forward 2 weeks and do the > next betas on July 16th. Or we could wait until August 6th. That would > mean 6 weeks between betas. It's fine with me either way. I vote for

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Raymond Hettinger
From: "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are two options. I could shift everything forward 2 weeks and do the next betas on July 16th. Or we could wait until August 6th. That would mean 6 weeks between betas. It's fine with me either way. +1 for six weeks to allow the code to be mo

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> There are two options. I could shift everything forward 2 weeks and do >> the next betas on July 16th. Or we could wait until August 6th. That >> would mean 6 weeks bet

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are two options. I could shift everything forward 2 weeks and do t

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> There are two options. I could shift every

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is a Google Calendar kept by anyone that lists stuff like planned > release dates, etc.? It's on my personal one. :) -- Cheers, Benjamin Peterson "There's no place like 127.0.0.1." ___

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:51

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> H

[Python-Dev] Can someone check my lib2to3 change for fix_imports?

2008-07-01 Thread Brett Cannon
I just committed r64651 which is my attempt to add support to fix_imports so that modules that have been split up in 3.0 can be properly fixed. 2to3's test suite passes and all, but I am not sure if I botched it somehow since I did the change slightly blind. Can someone just do a quick check to mak

Re: [Python-Dev] Can someone check my lib2to3 change for fix_imports?

2008-07-01 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just committed r64651 which is my attempt to add support to > fix_imports so that modules that have been split up in 3.0 can be > properly fixed. 2to3's test suite passes and all, but I am not sure if > I botched it somehow

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: >> >> Is a Google Calendar kept by anyone that lists stuff like planned >> release dates, etc.? > > http://www.google.com/cal

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Second betas tomorrow

2008-07-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: Is a Google Calendar kep

Re: [Python-Dev] Can someone check my lib2to3 change for fix_imports?

2008-07-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I just committed r64651 which is my attempt to add support to >> fix_imports so that modules that have been split up in 3.0 can be >> properly fi

[Python-Dev] py3k branch still using -fno-strict-aliasing

2008-07-01 Thread İsmail Dönmez
Hi, I remember discussing this before and coming to conclusion that -fno-strict-aliasing would be removed from py3k CFLAGS. But as of now its still used. I tested with gcc 4.3.1 on Linux x86_64 and there is no strict aliasing warning when this flag is removed. Also make testall passes. Is there a

[Python-Dev] [issue3214] Suggest change to glossary explanation: "Duck Typing"

2008-07-01 Thread Paddy 3118
Hi, I'd like extra opinions on this issue please: http://bugs.python.org/issue3214 It's about changing the definition of Duck typing to remove hasattr and leave just EAFP in the enablers - more detail is in the issue log. Thanks, Paddy. ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Can someone check my lib2to3 change for fix_imports?

2008-07-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Benjamin Peterson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I just committed r64651 which is my attempt to add support to >>> f