Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Anthony Baxter writes: > Just a random aside - is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed by > these mass-mailed out survey requests from students? Annoyed, not particularly. Scared, yes: it's long been known that a field=FIELD is moribund when people start getting "PhDs in FIELD" for disser

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: > This one was at least personally addressed > (well, to "Python Contributors"), which is a step ahead of most of > them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly selected -- they're the

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread skip
amk> ... no one has analyzed it; they're just *accumulating* the data. amk> It's stamp collecting as computer science. +1 QOTF. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Steve Holden
A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: >> This one was at least personally addressed >> (well, to "Python Contributors"), which is a step ahead of most of >> them. > > What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents > aren't

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: >> This one was at least personally addressed >> (well, to "Python Contributors"), which is a step ahead of most of >> them. > > What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents > aren't

Re: [Python-Dev] About SSL tests

2007-04-04 Thread Facundo Batista
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I don't like it. I would rather rely on the private _handle member. > If that ever gets changed, the test fails. I made it using _handle. Right now, we have test_socket_ssl.py using a local openssl and passing all the tests in all the buildbots, :D Thanks for your (you

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practicesin Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Terry Reedy
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | This guy, however, has been at it for over a month, this is his fourth | (or so) mailing. I think an entry in the Mailman persona-non-grata | list may be appropriate. So would a letter/email to the chair of his/

Re: [Python-Dev] test_socketserver flakey?

2007-04-04 Thread Guido van Rossum
FWIW, I've checked a fix into the trunk. The code was waiting half a second and assumign that the server thread was ready. This occasionally failed of course. I fixed it by using an event variable instead of a sleep call. Not sure if it's worth backporting, as it is only a race condition in the un

Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software

2007-04-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On 4/4/07, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: > This one was at least personally addressed > (well, to "Python Contributors"), which is a step ahead of most of > them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils and -framework on MacOSX

2007-04-04 Thread Greg Ewing
Ronald Oussoren wrote: > Could you create an example where adding -framework to the end of the > command-line doesn't work? I'll see what I can do. -- Greg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

[Python-Dev] branch is frozen for release of 2.5.1c1 (and 2.5.1)

2007-04-04 Thread Anthony Baxter
Please stay out of the 2.5 branch unless you're one of the release team - I'm cutting 2.5.1c1 at the moment. There will be a 2.5.1 final next week, assuming all goes well. If you have an urgent bugfix you need in, please post here and get someone to approve it before the checkin! Thanks, Antho