Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-02-03 Thread Skip Montanaro
Brett> Everyone went silent on this topic. Does this mean people just Brett> stopped caring (which I doubt since I know Skip wants this bad Brett> enough to bring it up every so often)? Was it the issue of Brett> symmetry with strftime? I have a patch to do strptime() fractional

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-02-02 Thread Brett C.
Everyone went silent on this topic. Does this mean people just stopped caring (which I doubt since I know Skip wants this bad enough to bring it up every so often)? Was it the issue of symmetry with strftime? I am willing to add this (albeit the simple way I proposed in my last email on this

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Brett C.
Skip Montanaro wrote: >> I realize the %4N notation is distasteful, but without it I think you >> will have trouble parsing something like >> >> 13:02:00.704 >> >> What would be the format string? %H:%M:%S.%N would be incorrect. Brett> Why is that incorrect? Because

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005, Alex Martelli wrote: > On 2005 Jan 14, at 19:11, Aahz wrote: >>On Fri, Jan 14, 2005, Brett C. wrote: >>> >>>Right, it's a struct_time object; just force of habit to call it a >>>time tuple. >>> >>>And I technically don't see why a fractional second attribute could >>>not be ad

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Alex Martelli
On 2005 Jan 14, at 19:11, Aahz wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2005, Brett C. wrote: Right, it's a struct_time object; just force of habit to call it a time tuple. And I technically don't see why a fractional second attribute could not be added that is not represented in the tuple. But I personally woul

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Skip Montanaro
>> I realize the %4N notation is distasteful, but without it I think you >> will have trouble parsing something like >> >> 13:02:00.704 >> >> What would be the format string? %H:%M:%S.%N would be incorrect. Brett> Why is that incorrect? Because "704" represents the

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005, Brett C. wrote: > > Right, it's a struct_time object; just force of habit to call it a time > tuple. > > And I technically don't see why a fractional second attribute could not be > added that is not represented in the tuple. But I personally would like to > see struct_tm

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Brett C.
Skip Montanaro wrote: Brett> The problem I have always had with this proposal is that the Brett> value is worthless, time tuples do not have a slot for fractional Brett> seconds. Yes, it could possibly be changed to return a float for Brett> seconds, but that could possibly break t

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Mark Russell
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 09:36, Skip Montanaro wrote: > Actually, time.strptime() returns a struct_time object. Would it be > possible to extend %S to parse floats then add a microseconds (or whatever) > field to struct_time objects that is available by attribute only? +1 for adding a microseconds f

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 06:40, Alex Martelli wrote: > +1 -- I never liked the idea that 'time tuples' lost fractions of a > second. On platforms where that's sensible and not too hard, > time.time() could also -- unobtrusively and backwards compatibly -- set > that same attribute. I wonder if,

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Alex Martelli
On 2005 Jan 14, at 10:36, Skip Montanaro wrote: Brett> The problem I have always had with this proposal is that the Brett> value is worthless, time tuples do not have a slot for fractional Brett> seconds. Yes, it could possibly be changed to return a float for Brett> seconds, but

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-14 Thread Skip Montanaro
Brett> The problem I have always had with this proposal is that the Brett> value is worthless, time tuples do not have a slot for fractional Brett> seconds. Yes, it could possibly be changed to return a float for Brett> seconds, but that could possibly break things. Actually, tim

Re: [Python-Dev] redux: fractional seconds in strptime

2005-01-13 Thread Brett C.
Skip Montanaro wrote: A couple months ago I proposed (maybe in a SF bug report) http://www.python.org/sf/1006786 that time.strptime() grow some way to parse time strings containing fractional seconds based on my experience with the logging module. I've hit that stumbling block again, this time in