Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Neal Becker
Wow, I didn't know that existed. Maybe needs to be more obvious. But not quite. It doesn't distinguish between locally installed files, and globally installed. Here, globally installed are maintained by the OS vendor packaging, while locally (user, not virtualenv) installed are managed by pip.

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Skip Montanaro
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Ian Cordasco wrote: > Also, isn't this discussion better suited for Distutils-SIG? I started up a thread there. I'd post an archive link, but it hasn't yet turned up in the distutils-sig archive. Skip ___ Python-Dev mai

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Ian Cordasco
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 27 August 2014 13:58, Neal Becker wrote: >> At least, pip should have the ability to alert the user to potential updates, >> >> pip update >> >> could list which packages need updating, and offer to perform the update. I >> think this would

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Paul Moore
On 27 August 2014 14:46, Skip Montanaro wrote: > it would be great if there was a way for it to tell me where on my > system it found outdated package X. The --verbose flag tells me all > sorts of other stuff I'm not really interested in, but not the > installed location of the outdated package.

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Skip Montanaro
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > Do you mean something like "pip list --outdated"? I was unaware of that command, as we were stuck at pip 1.2.1. I just updated pip manually to 1.5.6. That is a very helpful command. It would be even better if it understood --user so it could re

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Paul Moore
On 27 August 2014 13:58, Neal Becker wrote: > At least, pip should have the ability to alert the user to potential updates, > > pip update > > could list which packages need updating, and offer to perform the update. I > think this would go a long way to helping with this problem. Do you mean so

Re: [Python-Dev] pip enhancement

2014-08-27 Thread Skip Montanaro
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > On systems where os-level packaging is available (e.g., fedora linux), it is > not > unusual to want a newer python package installed than available from the > vendor. > pip install --user can be used for this. How? I have exactly this probl