Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-09-05 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
> Did you still want this addressed? Anthony and I made some comments > on the bug/patch, but nothing has been updated. I was waiting because I got unassigned from the bug, so I thought the maintainer was stepping up. I'll commit a fix for it today. Thanks for pinging me, -- Gustavo Niemeyer

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-09-04 Thread Neal Norwitz
Gustavo, Did you still want this addressed? Anthony and I made some comments on the bug/patch, but nothing has been updated. n -- On 8/15/06, Gustavo Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you have issues, respond ASAP! The release candidate is planned to > > be cut this Thursday/Friday.

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-16 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
"A.M. Kuchling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:44:40PM -0400, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: >> It would be nice if the key IDLE changes could make it to the "What's New >> in Python X.X". If Andrew is interested, I could draft something for him. > > Sure! I can try to look thro

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-16 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/06, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It would be nice if someone could bytecompile Lib using >> Tools/compiler/compile.py and then run the test suite. > > Has this been done before? Obviously not. :-) > # This code causes python t

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-16 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:44:40PM -0400, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: > It would be nice if the key IDLE changes could make it to the "What's New > in Python X.X". If Andrew is interested, I could draft something for him. Sure! I can try to look through the IDLE NEWS file, but you'd certainly have a b

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-16 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 8/15/06, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would be nice if someone could bytecompile Lib using > Tools/compiler/compile.py and then run the test suite. I'd do it > myself but can't spare the time at the moment (I started but ran > into what seems to be a gcc bug along the way)

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd also like to see idle's separate version number go away and have > it start using the Python version number - maybe as of 2.6? +1 When we merged IDLEfork the consensus was to keep the versioning separate. But it seems confusing and is extra work

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 22:57, Thomas Heller wrote: > What is the policy for documentation changes? Am I allowed to check in > changes/additions to the ctypes docs without release manager permission > after the release candidate is out? I'l always make sure that the html > docs can be built. S

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Anthony Baxter
I really don't care any more about this. My initial concern (and why I requested the change) was that there are no more official separate distutils releases. I don't see how keeping a bunch of version numbers in the stdlib that just track the main version number is a sane use of developer time -

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know of any. I haven't heard of any issues with the fixes > that have been checked in. It would be nice if someone could bytecompile Lib using Tools/compiler/compile.py and then run the test suite. I'd do it myself but can't spare the time at the

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > M.-A. Lemburg schrieb: >>> It's either an official feature, with somebody maintaining it, >>> or people should expect to break it anytime. >> I'll let you know when things break - is that good enough ? > > That can't be an official policy; you seem to define "breaks" > as

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
M.-A. Lemburg schrieb: >> It's either an official feature, with somebody maintaining it, >> or people should expect to break it anytime. > > I'll let you know when things break - is that good enough ? That can't be an official policy; you seem to define "breaks" as "breaks in my (your) personal u

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
> If you have issues, respond ASAP! The release candidate is planned to > be cut this Thursday/Friday. There are only a few more days before > code freeze. A branch will be made when the release candidate is cut. I'd like to see problem #1531862 fixed. The bug is clear and the fix should be tr

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Guido van Rossum wrote: > Marc-Andre, > > I think the release managers might let you change this back if you > volunteered, not to maintain all of distutils (I wouldn't wish that on > my worst enemies :-) but at least to keep the version number up to > date and to do the occasional work to keep it

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > M.-A. Lemburg schrieb: >> I find it important to maintain distutils compatibility with >> a few Python versions back. Even if I can't volunteer to >> maintain distutils, like Martin suggested, due to lack of time, >> I don't really see the requirement to use the latest and

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
Marc-Andre, I think the release managers might let you change this back if you volunteered, not to maintain all of distutils (I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemies :-) but at least to keep the version number up to date and to do the occasional work to keep it backwards compatible in the way you

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Guido van Rossum schrieb: >> I think it must be rolled back, at least as long as >> distutils is officially listed as a package that needs to support >> older versions of Python, which pretty much implies that it's okay to >> extract it from the 2.5 release and distribute i

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
M.-A. Lemburg schrieb: > I find it important to maintain distutils compatibility with > a few Python versions back. Even if I can't volunteer to > maintain distutils, like Martin suggested, due to lack of time, > I don't really see the requirement to use the latest and greatest > Python features in

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum schrieb: > I am sympathetic to this case. Is there any advantage to the *users* > of distutils of the dynamic version number? This series of commits was triggered by a user who wondered why Python 2.4.3 ships with distutils 2.4.1, yet Python 2.5bsomething ships with the older 2.4.

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On 8/15/06, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The distutils version number should be changed back to a static >> string literal. >> >> It's currently setup to get its version number >> from the Python version running it which pretty much defeats >> the whole purp

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 8/15/06, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The distutils version number should be changed back to a static > string literal. > > It's currently setup to get its version number > from the Python version running it which pretty much defeats > the whole purpose of having a version number a

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Neal Norwitz wrote: > I just updated the PEP to remove all references to issues blocking > release of 2.5. > I don't know of any. I haven't heard of any issues with the fixes > that have been checked in. > > If you have issues, respond ASAP! The release candidate is planned to > be cut this Thur

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-15 Thread Thomas Heller
Neal Norwitz schrieb: > I just updated the PEP to remove all references to issues blocking > release of 2.5. > I don't know of any. I haven't heard of any issues with the fixes > that have been checked in. > > If you have issues, respond ASAP! The release candidate is planned to > be cut this Th

Re: [Python-Dev] no remaining issues blocking 2.5 release

2006-08-14 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 14:31, Neal Norwitz wrote: > I just updated the PEP to remove all references to issues blocking > release of 2.5. > I don't know of any. I haven't heard of any issues with the fixes > that have been checked in. > > If you have issues, respond ASAP! The release candidate