Re: [Python-Dev] Trying to focus the whole bytes/str formatting discussion

2014-01-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 13 January 2014 08:46, Brett Cannon wrote: > I don't know about the rest of you but I feel like the discussion is heading > off the rails (if it hasn't already jumped the tracks). Let's try to bring > this back around to something actionable which people can focus their energy > on as the amoun

Re: [Python-Dev] Trying to focus the whole bytes/str formatting discussion

2014-01-12 Thread Guido van Rossum
Sorry, I started my own "PEP 460 reboot" thread -- I wrote that message before yours arrived, even if maybe I posted after you. I'm in the PBP camp myself for this. I won't pronounce on PEP 460 as-is. Please follow up in the other thread if you need clarifications. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM,

Re: [Python-Dev] Trying to focus the whole bytes/str formatting discussion

2014-01-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Jan2014 17:46, Brett Cannon wrote: > THE EIBTI group are willing to support PEP 460 but beyond that don't want > to have in Python itself anything for bytes.format() which takes in a > string and spits out bytes. It's bytes in->bytes out and not bytes & str > in->bytes out as the PBP group is